Ts Deceit - Blog Posts
Accidentally Walking In On A Side In The Shower: Janus Version
(There is a see-through glass shower door unless otherwise specified)
Janus: Where'd you put my hat?
Roman, having hung a towel over the glass shower door, knowing this would happen: I don't know what you mean.
Janus: You know I can tell when you're lying, right?
Roman, smugly: Yep.
Janus: Where’d— oh, god, sorry— *sinks out*
Patton, blushing red from head to toe, whispering: Did that just happen?
Janus: Where— nope— *sinks out*
Logan: ?
Janus: Where’d Roman put my hat?
Virgil, invisible behind a black shower curtain: *hiss*
Janus: *hisses back*
Janus: Did Roman tell you where he put my hat?
Remus, for once not wearing clothes like a normal person: No. I still think he took my morning star.
Janus: Hm. *starts to sink out*
Remus: Wh— wait! Is that it?
Janus: This isn’t a porn, Remus. I asked you a question, now I leave.
Remus: It could be…
Janus: No. It literally can’t.
Remus, sighing: I saw it in the freezer.
Janus: Thank you.
Remus, getting a new idea: If you get it out now, it might take a minute to defrost.
Janus: You’re stubborn, you know that?
Remus: :(
Janus: I’ll be right back
Remus: :D
Accidentally Walking In On A Side In The Shower: Remus Version
(There is a see-through glass shower door unless otherwise specified)
Remus: Have you seen my morning star?
Patton: I’m afraid not, kiddo.
Remus: Have you seen my morning star?
Logan: No, get out of my bathroom
Remus: Alright
Remus: Hey Ro—
Roman: *unholy shrieking*
Remus: *shrieks as well*
Both: *shrieking*
Remus: Have you seen my morning star?
Janus, soaking in the bathtub, without convenient bubbles, as snakes do, though it's nothing Remus hasn't seen before: You probably lost it in your room.
Remus: I already checked
Remus: ...Can I—
Janus: No, you can't join me, get out
Remus: :(
Janus: You did this to yourself, you’re the one who decided to put soap in here
Remus: Once!
Janus: I was coughing bubbles for a week!
Remus: How was I supposed to know you drank through your skin?!
Janus: You aren't, you’re just not supposed to mess with the water!
Remus: Have you seen my morning star?
Virgil, invisible behind a black shower curtain: Go fuck yourself.
Remus: Understandable, have a great day
Accidentally Walking In On A Side In The Shower: Logan Version
(There is a see-through glass shower door unless otherwise specified)
Logan: Have you seen my puzzle book?
Patton, face pink, because he’ll never get used to this: No…
Logan: Roman—
Roman: *unholy shrieking*
Logan: Have you seen my puzzle book?
Roman: *still shrieking*
Logan: I’m taking that as a no.
Logan: Have you happened to see my puzzle book?
Janus, soaking in the bathtub, unfortunately without convenient bubbles, as snakes do: No. I’ll tell you if I do.
Logan, unfazed: Great, thank you.
Logan: Remus, I don't suppose you’ve seen my puzzle book?
Remus, showering fully clothed: But you do suppose, or you wouldn't have asked.
Logan: Error. Logan.exe has stopped working.
Logan: Vir— this is my puzzle book! You had it?
Virgil, invisible behind a black shower curtain: Oh… Sorry…
Logan: I respected your privacy for this long, please respect mine.
Virgil, internally: Dude wtf I’m literally showering??
Roman's Quest For Shaving Cream / Accidentally Walking In On A Side In The Shower: Roman Version
(There is a see-through glass shower door unless otherwise specified)
Roman: Hey, do you have any shaving cream?
Remus, showering fully clothed: No, I don't like the way that it tastes.
Roman: Wh— You eat shaving cream?
Remus: No! Why would I eat it if I don't like the way that it tastes?
Roman: Hey Pat, do you have shaving cream?
Patton, pink because he’s never going to be used to this: No. I can't grow facial hair.
Roman: ...True. I’m not sure why I asked.
Roman: Hey De— Janus—
Janus, soaking in the bathtub, unfortunately without convenient bubbles, as snakes do: …
Roman, regretting his life: Never mind snakes don't even have hair—
Roman: Hey, My Chemically Imbalanced Romance, do you have any shaving cream?
Virgil, invisible behind a black shower curtain: Why on earth would I?
Roman: …
Roman: Do you have any shaving cream?
Logan: Yes. It does have a scent to it, however.
Roman: Oh, that's fine. Is it woody? Or musky?
Logan: It's honey-mango.
Roman: ...What?
Logan: They’re both very good for your skin, and happen to be fragrant.
Roman, after using Logan’s shaving cream: I FEEL BEAUTIFUL.
Remus and Logan: *playing Hell Chess*
Patton and Janus: *teleport in*
Janus: LOGAN! Tell Patton he does not have birds in his head!
Patton: Logan!! Tell Janus he doesn't know everything!
Logan, raising an eyebrow: What?
Patton: So, whenever my doctor examines my ears, these little birds tweet! He says I have a little family of birds living in my head!
Janus: Correction, to make Patton sit still during checkups, his doctor makes bird noises and pretends to check on birds in his head instead of his ears.
Patton: Hey, I'm perfectly still! I don't want him to poke a bird!
Janus: *gestures wildly at him*
Logan, completely serious: Oh, no, I'm afraid you're wrong here, Janus. I've seen Patton's medical records, he has a small family of birds living in his head and has for years. It's a harmless condition.
Janus: *stares at him in WTF manner*
Patton: Ha! I told you! Devon and his family ARE in my head!
Remus: What's in my head?
Logan, no hesitation: A single rat on a wheel. His name is Maurice.
Remus: Is he a space cowboy?
Logan: And a gangster of love.
Remus, grinning: Cool.
Patton: Ooh! What's in Roman's head?
Logan, also no hesitation: A frog named Roberto.
Patton: Awesome! I'm going to tell him.
Patton: *sinks out*
Janus: WHY.
Logan, smiling mischievously: You've got a transgendeer in yours.
Janus: MOTHERF—
Pancake Day! / Accidentally Walking In On A Side In The Shower: Patton Version
(There is a see-through glass shower door unless otherwise specified)
Patton: Hey Lo do you know where the pancake mix is?
Logan, used to this, casually shampooing his hair: Behind the mixing bowls in the corner cabinet
Patton: Awesome, thank you. Second question: do you want pancakes?
Logan: Yes, thank you
Patton: Hey R—
Roman: *unholy shrieking*
Patton: Stop screaming it's just me— do you want pancakes?
Patton: Hey J—
Janus, soaking in the bathtub, unfortunately without convenient bubbles, as snakes do: …
Patton, turning red: I— I'll ask later—
Patton: Hey Virge! Do you want pancakes?
Virgil, invisible behind a black shower curtain: Yes, please.
Patton: Hey, Remus, do you want pancakes for breakfast?
Remus, showering fully clothed: Oh I'm always a slut for pancakes
Patton, internally: I need Logan's cards
How Remus Describes The Other Sides
From a bit in a fic I wrote; basically, Janus sent a letter to a "new dark side" (its dark!Logan) that showed up explaining—
Y'know what I'll just put in the whole excerpt
Welcome to the ‘dark side.’ There are two of us here and four on the ‘light side.’ Fair warning, most of the others don't like us. More details on that and the main things that have happened if you missed it on the back. I look forward to meeting you, it has been quiet ever since Virgil (Now Anxiety, previously Paranoia) left. There's no rush to come out, though. Take your time. — Janus, Self-Preservation (Nicknamed ‘Deceit’)
He flipped it over, seeing a thorough but quick explanation of the split, Virgil switching sides, who the others were, why the lights didn't like the darks, etc. Janus had very nice handwriting.
It was really… Sweet. Nobody had ever been so considerate towards Logan in his life.
...
Hiya! Figured Jan already did the important introduction, professional and shit, but here's whatcha gotta know about the others—
Roman: My brother, kinda! Very dramatic, title is Creativity, his color is red, he always has his sword and knows how to use it so beware! He dresses like a Disney prince. Minus the crown. He has one. He just doesn't wear it.
Janus: You probably got a good gauge of his personality from his letter, his color is yellow, his title is Self-Preservation but the others always call him Deceit (he’s never corrected them), he's got some scales so don't be freaked out when you see him for the first time (y’know those Catholics and their lying snakes)
Me!: I usually write on neon paper didn't wanna ‘til I knew if you were okay with it, I’m Creativity but the non-socially-accepted Creativity so like intrusive thoughts and such, my color is green, I have a morning star fair warning though I hardly use it on people (never used it on anyone but Roman)
Patton: He’s Morality, he’s very confused about a lot of things, loves cats but he’s allergic, color is light blue, scared of spiders (which is hilarious cuz he loves Virgil), he pretends he’s the dad of the group and calls the others kiddo but he’s just a kid that had to grow up too fast and is now way out of his depth but scared to ask for help??? he wears glasses
Virgil: He’s Anxiety, used to be Paranoia when he was a dark side but then he got a redemption arc and now they love him, his color is purple, he loves spiders, he’s got really intense eyeshadow under his eyes, he’ll probably hiss at you when he first sees you
Logan: Ah, Logan. His title is Logic, and he’s truly the only light side with any braincells. However they NEVER FUCKING LISTEN TO HIM LIKE WTF sorry Thomas is such a dumbass it pisses me off being he! should! just! listen! to! Logan! and! he! wouldn't! have! half! these! problems! but nooOOOOoooOOoooo he’s gotta be a fucking idiot all the time, anyway Logan’s color is indigo he wears glasses he wears a black button-up and a blue striped tie and he’s the only light side worth talking to tbh
He teared up, reading the section about him. Remus got it. He understood how he felt. It was a bit confusing how he described him in more detail than the others, but he quickly moved past that, realizing Remus had forgotten to sign his name and chuckling a little.
(end of excerpt)
Here ya go
Remus: When you pet a cat real good and it leans into your touch so hard it flops over? That's the shit.
Logan: Or when a cat kneads you with its little paws? Absolute heaven.
Janus: When a cat pushes away your book and flops down where it was so you pay attention to it instead of the book.
Patton, who just appeared to tell them it's dinnertime, eyes full of tears: Yeah that's the best haha anyway dinner is ready
Logan, fluffing Patton's hair: When you play with Pat's hair and he turns pink because he's adorable.
Patton, blushing: *incoherent stammers*
Janus, sliding his arms around Patton's waist from behind: Or when you hug Pat because he's so soft and cuddly.
Patton, blushing deeper: *more incoherent stammers*
Remus: When your boyfriend's holding Pat so you can do this:
Remus: *kisses Patton on the cheek*
Patton, bright red:
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So, the dark sides all have a Thing. Virgil's eyeshadow, Janus's scales, Remus's silver hair.
When the light sides went to Virgil's room, they all began to have eyeshadow piled on, which disappeared once they left.
What if, visiting Janus's room, they grow scales that disappear when they leave?
What if, visiting Remus's room, their hair slowly turns silver but then turns back when they leave?
Idk I just think that'd be hella cool.
(Also, in Patton's room, their emotions were more heightened, right? And in Virgil's room, their anxiety was heightened.
What if, in Roman's room, their theatricality heightens?
What if, in Logan's room, their logical thinking and think-before-you-speak concept heightens?
What if, in Janus's room, their self-preservation, their save-yourself instinct heightens?
What if, in Remus's room, their verbal filter lessens, and their intrusive thoughts heighten?
What if they all realize, this isn't fun at all, and appreciate that everyone's blessings also have downsides? They finally realize why Remus blurts things out, because it's so hard and miserable to keep them in your head. They finally realize, hang on, selfishness makes you feel guilty and like a horrible person even when it's reasonable?)
Happy ending Remus (and anyone else) gets tumblr and shares this stuff on here like I do because keeping it in their head is a big yikes but nobody around them understands what they're talking about
Little Thomas, in his kitchen, singing the '(blank blank) bo b(blank) banana fana fo f(blank) me my mo m(blank), (blank)' song on repeat with different words
In his head-
Thomas/Remus: Cat cat bo bat banana fana fo fat me my mo mat, caaaat
Thomas/Remus: Dog dog bo bog banana fana fo fog me my mo mog, doooog
(several verses later, running out of words)
Thomas/Remus: Luck luck bo buck banana fana fo fu—
Patton: *slaps hand over Remus's mouth*
Thomas: *slaps hand over his own mouth, eyes wide* Sorry!
Thomas's Parents: *eyes wide, not mad though*
Thomas/Remus: I'm gonna stop singing now...
Logan: Just wrote offly instead of awfully. Can you tell I'm exhausted?
Janus: Yes, because this is a verbal conversation so I don't have any idea what you're talking about.
Logan: ...
Logan: I'm going to bed.
Janus: Good choice.
If anyone's wondering what they're eating—
Roman: Toaster waffles
Janus: He just unhinged his jaw (traumatizing Roman and Patton) and had a few whole raw eggs before leaving to not eat for a few weeks
Remus: Raw oats (just throwing back handfuls and sometimes not even chewing them, Patton is very concerned)
Patton: Cereal
Logan: Oatmeal (he offered to make Remus some out of politeness but he wasn't interested)
Virgil: Dry toast
(I feel it's important to emphasize that everyone is sitting at the table, even Remus, except Virgil, who is sitting on top of the fridge, munching on plain toast)
(Virgil's shooting Janus infuriatingly smug looks because whenever he tries to get on the fridge in the dark side, Janus swats him down with a broom, but he can't do that now haha take that Receipt)
Sides: *eating breakfast together*
School bus: *drives past*
Remus: *sees that it's empty*
Remus: This bus empty,
Remus, miming jerking a steering wheel to the side: SKEET
Remus: *continues eating breakfast*
Patton, the only one not used to this: ???
Sides: *eating breakfast together*
School bus: *drives past*
Remus: *sees that it's empty*
Remus: This bus empty,
Remus, miming jerking a steering wheel to the side: SKEET
Remus: *continues eating breakfast*
Patton, the only one not used to this: ???
Patton, poking his head into the dark side lounge: Hey, it's time for d—
Remus: *knees pulled into his chest, having a crisis, mumbling about reindeer*
Logan: *beating Janus over the head and shoulders with a pillow, yelling at him*
Janus: *trying to duck Logan and laughing, saying something about not regretting anything*
Virgil: *sitting in an armchair, on his phone*
Virgil, looking up: Hey, Padre. Dinner?
Patton: *nods*
Patton: Is this... Are they okay?
Virgil: Oh, this is just a Wednesday. 's why I'm always with you and Roman.
Patton: Please... Feel free to come to our side anytime.
Remus, proud of knowing something: Logan. I have a fact.
Logan, not looking up from his book: Proceed.
Remus: Male reindeers lose their antlers in the winter, while female reindeers don't. All of Santa's reindeers have antlers, meaning they're all female, but the media says they're men because they don't want a team of strong females depicted.
Logan: Or they aren't cis. Ever think about that?
Remus: Wait wha—
Logan: Maybe they're transgender. Don't be a bigot, Remus.
Remus: I'M NOT—
Remus: Wait—
Remus: Am I being a bigot???
Logan: I don't know, are you? You're assuming their gender aligns with their sex.
Remus: *now having a crisis*
Janus, walking past, unable to help it: So you could say they're... Transgendeer.
Logan, hopping up, beating Janus with a pillow: I'm trying to escape Patton's constant puns, goddamnit!
Remus, proud of knowing something: Logan. I have a fact.
Logan, not looking up from his book: Proceed.
Remus: Male reindeers lose their antlers in the winter, while female reindeers don't. All of Santa's reindeers have antlers, meaning they're all female, but the media says they're men because they don't want a team of strong females depicted.
Logan: Or they aren't cis. Ever think about that?
Remus: Wait wha—
Logan: Maybe they're transgender. Don't be a bigot, Remus.
Remus: I'M NOT—
Remus: Wait—
Remus: Am I being a bigot???
Logan: I don't know, are you? You're assuming their gender aligns with their sex.
Remus: *now having a crisis*
Janus, walking past, unable to help it: So you could say they're... Transgendeer.
Logan, hopping up, beating Janus with a pillow: I'm trying to escape Patton's constant puns, goddamnit!
Remus, nervous: Hey, uh... I drew Thomas...
Drawing: Non-creepy, realistic, black and white portrait of Thomas
Patton, eyes lighting up: Oh my goodness, kiddo, that's so good! You're a really talented artist!
Logan: You drew that? It's really good.
Thomas, pointing at it excitedly: That's me! That's so good! Oh my god
Janus: That's very impressive. You should be proud.
Virgil: Yeah, that's really good, dude. *kinda awkward but supportive thumbs-up*
Remus, eyes full of tears, turning to Roman: *whisper* Is this what it's like?
Roman: *solemnly sets hand on his shoulder*
Roman: Welcome to the 'I'm-Going-To-Keep-Creating-To-Chase-This-High-I-Get-From-Praise' Club.
Remus: Who else is in it?
Roman: All creators that crave validation. So... A helluva lot of people.
Bonus
Remus: *drinks straight out of the bottle*
Remus: So that's what that tastes like
Remus: *turns to Janus*
Remus: Can I compare it to the taste of yellow?
Janus: *blank look, not giving him the satisfaction*
Logan: *falls down, laughing harder*
Janus: *checks Limoncello bottle*
Janus: The only ingredient here is FD & C Yellow #5
Logan: They don't put alcohol on the ingredients list.
Janus: It doesn't even say there's lemon.
Logan: The lemon was likely brewed with the alcohol.
Janus: *sips Limoncello*
Janus: *wrinkles nose*
Janus: It certainly tastes like yellow.
Logan: *dies laughing*
Janus: *checks Limoncello bottle*
Janus: The only ingredient here is FD & C Yellow #5
Logan: They don't put alcohol on the ingredients list.
Janus: It doesn't even say there's lemon.
Logan: The lemon was likely brewed with the alcohol.
Janus: *sips Limoncello*
Janus: *wrinkles nose*
Janus: It certainly tastes like yellow.
Logan: *dies laughing*
Supposed To Be A Family (Moceit)
Description:
The six sides were supposed to be a family. They were supposed to disregard the labels 'light' and 'dark' and be one group of people.
For a while, they were. Then a fallout happened between two sides, and they were divided.
Can they move past it? Can they become a family again? Can they finally reunite their 'Mama' and 'Dad,' who raised the rest of them?
(My first tss fic go easy on me! It's really short)
'Daydream Mode' is when Roman has full creative control, right? So I'm just imagining like:
Remus, ranting to Janus: —as long as their beak fits through, the entire rest of them, because that's the only solid part, can squish through—
Remus: *suddenly collapses without warning*
Janus, flipping the page of his book unconcernedly: Someone must have turned on Daydream mode.
Me, baking anything: For Patton
Me, taking my meds and drinking water: For Janus
Me, making art and writing creatively: For Roman
Me, removing myself from stressful situations and listening to music: For Virgil
Me, reading and learning about new things: For Logan
Me, sharing random and strange facts with my loved ones as a sign of affection: For Remus
Me, managing to be a functioning person: For Thomas
Side Theory
Thomas said he's 'all rainbow, all the time,' and we used that as a basis for the orange and green side theories before Remus was revealed and orange was pretty much confirmed, right?
He said this as a joke with him being gay, right?
The gay pride flag is typically seen as just red/orange/yellow/green/blue/purple.
However, Thomas has Patton and Logan: the version with two shades of blue, light and dark. The one closer to the original.
And what's known as the original pride flag (Gilbert Baker's pride flag) itself had eight stripes. Pink/red/orange/yellow/green/blue/blue/purple.
May I introduce a new theory:
The Pink Side?
@ Sander Sides Fans:
Does this look like an accurate depiction of @thatsthat24 's filming setup? (It's for writing purposes I'm not a creep; I know it's not exactly to scale I more mean the placement of everything)
I am not going to simp for a fanon adaptation of an aspect of Thomas Sander's personality, I am not going to simp for a fanon adaptation of an aspect of Thomas Sander's personality, I am not going to simp for a fanon adaptation of an aspect of Thomas Sander's personality, I am not going to simp for a fanon adaptation of an aspect of Thomas Sander's personality, I am not— FUCK I'M SIMPING FOR A FANON ADAPTATION OF AN ASPECT OF THOMAS SANDERS'S PERSONALITY
Nobody Asked, But If I Could Say One Thing To Each Of The Sides, They'd Be:
Roman: We appreciate you. Not everything you make has to be the work of Adam (Driver). It's okay to mess up. You aren't just Thomas's hero; you're the hero of a lot of fans too.
Orange: TBD. (Right now, 'Come out, come out, wherever you are!')
Janus: Thank you. Also, I think your name is awesome.
Remus: You aren't evil. You're just as important as the other sides.
Patton: It's okay to say 'I don't know.' You aren't supposed to have all the answers. You aren't letting anyone down.
Logan: I listen when you're talking, and I learn from you, and I know a lot of other fans do. You can show your emotions, we know you have them. We'll always take you seriously.
Virgil: We love you. You've never been the villain— you've always been looking out for Thomas's safety.
(I know some of them aren't really 'one thing' shh)
(I know Remus is as important as everyone else because @thatsthat24 doesn't make one-dimensional sides. All the sides are like onions: they have several layers and once they're revealed you usually start crying)
I think if anyone finds the labels of light and dark absolutely meaningless, it's Logan and Janus, because they both know they all help Thomas equally, so I think they're most likely to befriend each other.
When Janus snatched away Logan with his cane and took his place, Logan had to know he was being impersonated, yet there was no sign of Logan attempting to stop him. 'Logan' also didn't return immediately, which leaves room for me to presume that they discussed it, but he returned quick enough, which leaves room for me to presume that they agreed on Janus taking his place.
These facts in mind, I would say they absolutely recognize this in each other, and as they both know there's no figurative 'cap' on affection the sides can receive, they support each other. If they receive praise from each other, it's mutually beneficial. (I also believe there's a reason that Dark Side!Logan and Loceit AUs are so common and easily supported by canon)
I chose to imagine them hanging out, talking about how the other sides have brushed them off/ignored them lately, and talking about their interests (for example, a conversation I had with a friend:
Them: [showing me their art, beginning to explain it because it's around the theme of a band they really like]
Them: And it— sorry, I should stop, people don't like it when I talk about it so much...
Me, internally: Tell me who said that and they'll pay
Me, externally: No no I want to hear it keep talking
and I feel like that's how it'd go with them)
And Remus! I feel like he's going to have a much bigger + irreplaceable role than shown so far. Like how Janus was introduced as 'Deceit,' but we learned he embodies self-preservation + self-care too. But for now, about his actions:
Roman is a Light Side. He is Good Creativity. He's Thomas's hero. He's literally a prince charming. Everybody loves him.
At least, that's how he's seen, right? We know he's actually got some self-esteem issues. But externally, he's perfect. Externally, 'the Duke and the Prince literally wear the black and the white.'
When Thomas's creativity 'split,' and Remus was created as the embodiment as Bad Creativity and the villain of the story, how everyone would see him was predetermined. He's the annoying one; the bad one; the one nobody wants around.
So that's what he made himself. He knew he couldn't get positive attention, so he made himself get the attention he could get: negative attention.
He's not just a kid screaming on an airplane. He's the sibling that's overshadowed by his brother, who's perfect. He's the kid who acts out to try to get the attention that his brother gets for being good.
Because if Remus acted 'good,' so what? Everyone else already does that. To get attention, he either has to somehow become 'better' than Roman, or be so much 'worse' that everyone takes note. (And this is super common in kids.)
This is my take on everything and this is very long and probably repetitive but if I am anything it is not succinct
Something Occurred To Me
So we all remember these scenes:
C!Thomas: You’re right, you’re right, you’re right, you’re right, you’re right, you’re right.
Logan: Well, now you're just pandering to my fondness for being told that I'm right.
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C!Thomas: (sighs) You're right.
Janus: Oh, I'm sorry. Uh, what was that? I couldn't hear you.
C!Thomas: (louder) You're right.
Janus: AH! YES! Ha! It feels SO GOOD! SO GOOD! Aah...
And before you say 'praise kink,' hear me out:
Janus recently revealed himself to Thomas, and nobody else seems to like him. Remus might, it's undetermined, but Remus doesn't seem like the kind to tell anyone that they're right.
Logan, as we know, enjoys being called 'cool.' I doubt being called intelligent would have any effect on him; he knows, he's Logic, he has to be intelligent. And they seem to just either know he's saying facts or ignore him.
They're probably the least likely to be told that they're right. (Besides Remus but he seems to take it out by bothering everyone)
That might have been the first time anyone ever told Janus he was right. And don't get me started on how under-appreciated Logan is.
What if they both react this way because they don't get told they're right often/at all?
Like, whenever someone says they want to listen to me rant about one of my hyper fixations (a rare occurrence) I freak out and get really giddy and happy. Maybe it's the same way for them.
And yes, Logan's response wasn't very emotionally charged, but he either suppresses his emotions or doesn't show them as openly as the others. The last time he showed an emotion, he hit Roman in the eye with a crumpled vocabulary card.
So... Yeah. Just consider that. I don't know I never know how to end my rants in real life I usually just get interrupted before I can finish
Believe It Or Not, Deceit Is Good At His Job
Let's ignore that Janus is mostly self-preservation at this point rather than 'Deceit'
Everyone seems to think Janus is a really bad liar. For example: when he imitated Logan, he wore the wrong tie, said 'lies,' and used an idiom.
But then when Virgil showed up, he snapped at him for 'ruining his dramatic entrance.' He totally expected them to figure him out. He planned it, because he's too Extra to just show up as himself.
More proof:
Selfishness vs Selflessness redux. Nobody knew he'd replaced Logan until he told them. He had them completely fooled, as well as the majority of the viewers, I'm sure.
Selfishness vs Selflessness. Yeah, we all knew Patton was off, but how many of us actually figured out it wasn't Patton?
Virgil knew, because he knows both Patton and Janus seemingly well, but considering the Janus/Virgil dynamic, I am near certain he did that on purpose.
Would Patton have messed up referencing famous philosophers? Yes. Did Janus know that? Most likely. However, his knowledge impressed Logan, and Janus wanted the other sides to take his side. He probably figured if he got Logic on his side everyone else would follow but then realized how little they listen to Logic.
Every bit he did that wasn't exactly Patton-like, I am certain there was a clear, intentional reason behind it, even if it was just to annoy Virgil by letting him be even more sure it was actually Janus. 'Friendo'? Come on. Patton's literally the dad character. There's no way that wasn't intentional.
"Is C!Thomas capable of such deception?" you ask, because he is a bean.
Yes. No, C!Thomas doesn't lie on a regular basis or anything. But he. Is. An. Actor. Actors can lie. They can deceive.
Just because he only does it on the stage, doesn't mean his sides can't use that skill whenever. I also believe his skills in acting have a lot to do with Janus in addition to the Creativitwins but that's for another time
In conclusion: Janus can lie.
Something Occurred To Me
So we all remember these scenes:
C!Thomas: You’re right, you’re right, you’re right, you’re right, you’re right, you’re right.
Logan: Well, now you're just pandering to my fondness for being told that I'm right.
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C!Thomas: (sighs) You're right.
Janus: Oh, I'm sorry. Uh, what was that? I couldn't hear you.
C!Thomas: (louder) You're right.
Janus: AH! YES! Ha! It feels SO GOOD! SO GOOD! Aah...
And before you say 'praise kink,' hear me out:
Janus recently revealed himself to Thomas, and nobody else seems to like him. Remus might, it's undetermined, but Remus doesn't seem like the kind to tell anyone that they're right.
Logan, as we know, enjoys being called 'cool.' I doubt being called intelligent would have any effect on him; he knows, he's Logic, he has to be intelligent. And they seem to just either know he's saying facts or ignore him.
They're probably the least likely to be told that they're right. (Besides Remus but he seems to take it out by bothering everyone)
That might have been the first time anyone ever told Janus he was right. And don't get me started on how under-appreciated Logan is.
What if they both react this way because they don't get told they're right often/at all?
Like, whenever someone says they want to listen to me rant about one of my hyper fixations (a rare occurrence) I freak out and get really giddy and happy. Maybe it's the same way for them.
And yes, Logan's response wasn't very emotionally charged, but he either suppresses his emotions or doesn't show them as openly as the others. The last time he showed an emotion, he hit Roman in the eye with a crumpled vocabulary card.
So... Yeah. Just consider that. I don't know I never know how to end my rants in real life I usually just get interrupted before I can finish
Janus's Name Reveal (I have a lot of feelings about this)
As a refresher for the dialogue:
Roman: PFFFFT!! Janus? Hahahaha! What are you, a middle school librarian? Hahahaha. It's a stupid name.
Janus: Oh, Roman, thank god you don't have a mustache. Otherwise, between you and Remus, I wouldn't know who the evil twin is.
So many people are all like 'oh Janus is so horrible telling Roman that if he had a mustache he wouldn't be able to tell the difference between him and Remus' but HONESTLY!
It was true!
Names are an important, powerful thing, and when Janus revealed his badass name to show he wanted to be part of their team, Roman didn't *just* LAUGH, he said "PFFFFT!! Janus? Hahahaha! What are you, a middle school librarian? Hahahaha. It's a stupid name."
That's a horrible thing to say! He did sound like the evil twin!
Everyone's like 'oh but when Janus said "Oh, Roman, thank god you don't have a mustache. Otherwise, between you and Remus, I wouldn't know who the evil twin is" he was attacking Roman's worst fear' AS IF NOT BEING ACCEPTED AND BEING LAUGHED AT ISN'T A FEAR OF JANUS'S!!
Virgil presented himself as a bad guy so Thomas would listen to him, so they'd taken him seriously, and Janus has proven that he wants what's best for Thomas like everyone else.
So how come he can't have done the same thing? Why is that so hard for people to consider? He has feelings too!
I'm not saying Janus was in the right, I'm saying he was provoked and shouldn't be made out to be the villain when they were both in the wrong (also rip Janus because his name was the only one to be laughed at, Roman didn't laugh at Virgil's name he laughed at Patton saying his name should be Virgin and Thomas immediately stood up for Virgil)
Anyway I still love Roman and Janus and that entire encounter went wrong in every possible way thanks for coming to my ted talk
Thing I Noticed
Virgil: I freaking hated everything about this.
(Patton: Hoo, I was afraid of what you meant by "strong language".)
Virgil: Do not allow him or any of... his friends... to stick around that long ever again.
Thomas: Okay, but what—
Virgil: Ever again! Cool?
Thomas: Cool.
Virgil says this, speaking about Janus. We know that Remus is considered a friend of Janus's, however, he said 'any of his friends.' Plural.
This implies that Janus has another friend, other than Remus. Considering the split dynamic of sides, and how light sides and dark sides so far haven't been friends (though they are warming up to Janus now), it's reasonable to assume that Janus's other friend is a dark side. There are three dark sides we know of, and Virgil obviously isn't speaking about himself (he doesn't consider Janus a friend anyway).
So, with this in mind, there's two possible options:
1. There's another dark side
2. Virgil/Thomas misspoke and I'm reading way too into this