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all these retweets and not a single person wondered what was wrong with him.

Jongin losing his balance from shaking his head too much.

To all the exo ls that let this fly

like it's so crazy how nobody needs to work hard to expose s.m because they seem to do a great job of it themselves.

Really crazy work how the same manager got moved out the group and sent to china after all the photos and vids of the inappropriate behavior with the members. Like people do know he was like 13 when he joined the company correct, like all the sus moments with the members and the staff that knew them since childhood are crazy. Like insane. This is why I never wanna here any big happy family comments about him cause I just know it isn't true. If any parent had half an inch of care about their child they wouldn't put them in this situation but at the very least they would attempt to get them out. Tao and Kris's mom and dad fought for them to go free. I'm assuming Luhan same thing. Like given how young he was, like nah no way and then he was marketed for noona's as a teen. He was in charge of sexiness at 17.....nope nope nope. They are so slick trying to wait for him to turn 18 to let him outside and begin acting super erotic. Like he wasn't in the practice room for years with staff trying to perfect it. Living in a dorm with 30 other dudes for years as a child. Went through puberty surrounded by a bunch of grown adults without any supervision. I love how everyone loves his sexiness but fail to realize he adopted that persona when he was a child, but people are so concerned about the kids in kpop apparently not. He has no boundaries cause he was never given any. He literally thought this was normal.

And they are still trying to recruit kids and this time they are targeting third world countries, I really hope they know hell and prison are real places. On god if lsm doesn't leave these kids alone I hope

the powers that be give him the kitagawa treatment

bbc.com

Two more abusers at J-pop predator's company

The two individuals involved in sex abuse at Johnny Kitagawa's agency are still alive, BBC is told.

No parent should ever have their child at a dorm with a bunch of grown men, EVER I don't care what s.m promised him!

kai grabbing a fistful of the manager noona’s hair…

I can't wait for everyone to get to a point where they realize this and all the other times the members hit one another wasn't okay. No matter who did it. Nobody should put their hands and try to hurt their coworker in public, it's not cute. All the members have hit or pushed or kicked one another in some type of way. Honestly I found it weird cause it's very rare to have that happen so many times with such a controlled group which tells me this was normal. It's really sad cause many were very young, some hardly knew one another and it's just really suspicious. They all got used to disrespecting and being disrespected physically and it wasn't okay. Because S.m was the management I still blame them because it's their job to control that type of thing. It's obvious s.m let them do whatever, I suppose if they just start fighting oh well. They didn't care about these boys and in turn they took their frustration out on one another, but still had to makeup because they had no choice. They had to punish the others who misbehaved in public cause the managers weren't allowed to do so. It's very sick and I pray they get healing for all the trauma they went through.

130824 ; Incheon Airport ; lovey-dovey kaisoo ;

Behind SM's trainee Life.

I recently read a popular post on Nate Pann, about a post-SM trainee, and she explains to us the things behind the doors of SM. And it was really interesting and some what scary, so I’ve decided to translate a few of the main things.

“Hi, I was a SM trainee until last week, and was in the pre-debut class. In the pre-debut teams, I was put in the 6 member-ed one. Amongst us was a pretty girl, who lacked talent but seemed to have past auditions through her physical appearances. One day, we were training, until late at night, when we were asked to go to the SM rumor management office (there’s a separate office in SM that deals with rumors that are viral on webs), and we heard that a visit there are extremely harsh, thus we were all very scared. When we got there, one of the office lady just slapped the pretty/youngest member across the face. She was holding a piece of paper, and asked the pretty girl if these rumors were true. The girl admitted to the rumors and she was hit again. She was then told to not return to SM again……apparently the rumors were about her previous reckless acts that were posted online.

It goes the same for EXO baekhyun, there were previous posts that were going viral in south Korea because he had filmed a footage in his early days and involving a packet of smoke. He was hit a lot, and all he did was just apologize, and they couldn’t kick him out because he had already debuted. Then there’s one about sehun and wa$$up, he was told off not to share any sign of interest to other girl group idols. Lastly, chanyeol was in trouble for this scandal with f(x) member Sulli, it’s widely known that SM workers don’t often tell Sulli off, cause she has an extreme temper.

Anyways, my point is, what you put up online can greatly impact these trainees/idols. Thus if you aren’t sure of anything, please don’t post them. They’ll just create rumors and there are people who get it a lot of trouble for that.”

[Pann Post screenshot:]

Translated by: @Exodirty

its sad how nothing was known about him for years and ppl just were able to craft their own narrative. I remember when people thought he was classy bougie and intelligent for years and then before he left he posted a video of him crip walking to a young thug song in the middle of the street and he said it was okay cause nobody was around. When fans thought he was a romantic sweet respectable young lad in reality, Bizzle B was his idol.

kai using justin bieber’s song to express his feelings

I love how the script they read from is like right in front of them, but its radio so people can't see it but then they post these videos and they hold the script the entire time.

jongin talking about his supportive parents

he and suho either have never fought or they have fought dozens of times there's no in between, cause their interactions are just so odd. Like they clearly don't like one another, I won't argue over this they don't, yet they don't hate one another either, and during that podcast radio whatever he tried to pat kai on the shoulder and said they were close Kai literally almost tipped over trying to get away from him. Then later Suho said he was like a father to him or at least tried to be. And during the exo ladder 4 Kai and the others ragged on him continuously. Super weird. Kai doesn't take him seriously, but why? The others mostly stay silent when it comes to any issues or dislikes but they keep showing how little they respect suho. Sad, now he's hiking in california and has a Cosco membership. Perhaps he'll go to tmz and tell his side of the story. Hopefully he goes full jessica and writes 2 books and has a movie.

he has a hangup at literally every stage that's why I get so upset when people push that he came from this big happy family, like pls stop saying that when you don't know someone's childhood. You don't know what being a kid was like for anyone but especially a child entertainer. It's very rough for anyone. But particularly in Korea. Especially in kpop and especially at s.m. I don't ever wanna push to just feel bad for people all the time but how people overeroticize him when almost every habit he has is traced back to child neglect, it gets under my skin seriously.

jongin why

All he does is get inspired. ok katniss.

jongin shooting us with his love ♡

S.m took so many career notes from Island records and young money and some of their producers.

2012 sm ent whenever a new trend dropped in America:

Kai with a model during ‘Growl perf @ Seoul Fashion Week

This is such an album cover

Two Teenagers, The Bronx, 1967, Arthur Tress

I love how they were all in each others space and ty stopped and turned away when bk said that and then Kai busted out laughing and vehemently denied it and they put all the blame on bk and gets closer with him again. Ty just let kji handle it cause he's not a good liar. "Like real brothers"..................... just what could he be referring to???????????

Lmao he said even "real brothers don't do that" and then hit ty on the back. It's so funny cause people will lie and their body language tells on them. Lmao he hit him so hard on the back cause his laughing was giving the truth away.

Q: Are there moments where you felt like you feel really close like siblings? ✧ 200928 MTopia production press conference

to be honest at this point I'm convinced they were live action role playing to practice for a romance movie but both of them ended up not getting the part so they just stayed in character for a few years cause this is so funny. Honestly he lowkey highkey needed camila to be a replacement mom for him cause he clearly needs that in his life, but it's so interested how they ended up doing so much pda but never even tried to get engaged or even a reality special.

Saw another one of those videos and they were doing all that stuff in front of someone who was cleaning the table 🙄

They need to give that worker a raise :(

lmao in korea the paps work for the gov literally. Its all planned out. I heard they have a file drawer on what scandals would best garner public reactions.

Dispatch makes me sick. What they do is a invasion privacy. I honestly hope to God that whoever’s relationship is revealed gets love and support from everyone because fans can be very possessive.

That's the thing is that dispatch also approaches the companies before releasing anything like this on idols and ask for money to keep it quiet - so it's never a "shock" to them but it's still disgusting nonetheless. The way paparazzi are is just nasty any way

I really agree with 90 percent of this. But also i dug into korean history, culture and fan lore. Basically the reason why ppl dont think they should date is idols are like the host club employees of the entertainment world. People know that is the job whenever they sign up. It isnt anything to do with artistry. Korean people know this but westerners do not. Also they already knew he had a partner and that majority of idols have partners or spouses but when you get married its expected your job should no longer be a host basically. Its a job for younger people. So honestly I think koreans are unfairly judged cause people don't even know what it is they are upset about. If they were regular artists like khip hop and krnb artists they could of gotten married years ago and nobody would ever say anything. Apparently they flirt with korean fans at private fansigns and secret events and basically act like a host and say romantic stuff. Khiphop and rnb artists date publicly so even if they flirt its clearly empty promises. Kdolls do not do this marketing style with foreign fans. We get completely different marketing. More we are friends or buddies style marketing. So that is why theres outrage with korean fans but not western. It is dumb but it does make more sense to me now. Especially because they tend to encourage kfans to spend loads or money on them like actual hosts do as well as buy music. Plus with the kfans protesting it was because they waited until after they were done touring to say info that was known months ago. If they dont care about the kfans who were protesting why not tell them before the concert. Because they wanted their money. Thats what they were mad about it was slimely. Imagine if justin pretended he was single in 2010 and after he sold out madison square garden he posted selena. Like bro if you wanna date just date but be real about it. Exo lost so much respecr from how they ignore members who left, to dating but always waiting until after promotion to be public to just not really performing well even though fans spent so much money to go to multiple concerts so everything could always sell out. Its not them dating its the fact that they just lie and are cowardly. Just rip the bandaid off date publicly and talk about theur relationships. Then the ones who dont like it will just leave. The reality is if they dont want crazy fans fine, but stop doing fanservice just do music if thats what they want to do. Promote to guys and older folks. Go to sporting events and promote in a gender neutral asexual way. Until then like they really cant complain cause they made the bed they lie in.

I’m so happy for him! I can’t stand the “fans” who don’t think idols should date and be happy.

Like yeah, we are all a little shocked about it because wow he’s damn good at hiding his private life but shit, some of the kfans are mad - some intl ones too. I hope what happened to that suju member who got married doesn’t happen to Jongdae. He’s getting close to 30 and deserves this damn happiness after giving up 8 years of his life to make us happy!!

Its crazy how multiple people have confirmed that jongins been in arrested development his whole life and people think he is mature. He is physically developed but his maturity is stuck at like age 8 when his father pushed him to become something in the ent sector. So many people never talk about how stressful his life must have been he was in school full time plus over 5 activities. He said over the years he did art, calligraphy, he tried taekwondo but he sucked, jazz, tap dancing, and ballet and was an sm terminal for years before even auditioning again and becoming a trainee. On top of they wanted him to be a child model. He would of had issues even if he wasnt in s.m but sm is another reason why he wasnt able to develop. All the staff became substitite parents and babied him. He just stopped being a kid which is why he is the way he is. His office is full of child's toys and he constantly refrences cartoons. He literally is mentally stuck at that age and even kids find him immature. Which explains why he doesnt say anything when kids tease him and never demands they respect him because they think he and them are on the same level. Ricky kim even basically said this when asked why Kai was so good with kids. I also noticed he never demands younger people respect him or use honorifics. He doesnt even understand the concept or at least he doesnt think it even applies to him. Hence why he argued with Taemin in middle school about the honorifics thing and didnt think it was important. Honestly its not a sweet thing but a real psychological hangup he has that he requires others to take care of him at all times, whether on variety, in a band or in his friendgroup. During the variety they did im 2022 I think his different mindset is so apparent now that he can actually talk more. He doesn't get jealous in relationships allegedly cause 8 year olds don't really care that complexly about relationships. Physical boundaries mean nothing to him so thats why he is okay with a partner feeding or zipping up someones jacket. Him talking to a psych major is so funny cause i know he is already aware of all of this cause he reads psychology books. SO he's aware but that doesnt change his issues. You cannot fix this problem unless you go back in time and become a kid again. Which is something he's constantly trying to do. Lmao that why the other member said he thinks he's gen z it was an inside joke because he really does think he is younger than he is. It happens to lots of people. Which also explains why he was begging to be a few years younger a few years ago and didnt want to talk about being 30. They will be married with kids but they are still psychologically stuck at a certain age. A lot of people say he acts like he's five but I will go with 8 because thats when he began doing all those activities. Too much stress on tiny very young person like it was gonna happen regardless. His stage persona is a mask yes, but its more than that. That is the person he created to be what the top superstars during his youth were.

even sehun wants to take care of jonginnie ♡ [trans]

wait this is what happened? this is so funny

why can't ppl laugh? man live a little they act like korea's war zone anything that happens must be taken so seriously. Like grow up how are ppl gonna react when they start letting these people actually be free and they are seen with models. Will people actually faint?

longpost---- open to find out the truth about asian idols in america

Is it because this ruins the illusion that some tense dating situation was going on. All these people knew and grew up together, behind the scenes they all talk and behave normally kpop idols only act antisocial for the cameras and the fans. The only awkwardness that exists is the kind they make up while they are company slaves. The minute they are free they are like regular people. This is why I always push the Kji is secretly dating an ig model or something because like in people's mind it's impossible but realistically he's gone to so many events and has met so many celebs that people forget he knows.

Sadly the realistic side of the korean entertainment host club industry is ain't nobody wants to see it, even if it's like common sense that's what most dudes are into, doesn't matter.

WORLD OF BUZZ

Jealous Fans Bash Model After K-Pop Star Followed Her on Instagram - WORLD OF BUZZ

A K-pop star from famous Korean band EXO followed a Filipino-Australian Instagram and fan were not too happy about it.

This is why its so annoying when people keep on with those same company made ships for so long. Like they clearly know other people even though they refuse to say it, they do. Like social media is where celebs play in public, they rarely address anyone if they don't know them in some type of way.

After going to the same events people in the same circle have followed him on instagram. Like it's so funny how people can't put two and two together but can tell you a bunch of scripted company nonsense some poor intern got paid 25 cents an hour to write.

Most personalities, friendships and personal info told by the company about an idol is FAKE. They sign contracts to play characters for the company, many even change their legal names. What they like, their taste, their innocence level it's all scripted. They are real people who have emotions and make emotional connections just like anybody else. Language is a small barrier for humans and it always has been. Just because their english isn't at a native level that does not mean they can't have english speaking friends.

Japan Today

Bieber kisses two of Japan’s most popular idols

Last month, Justin Bieber asked people to pray for Japan, under the mistaken belief that some tragedy had recently befallen the country. Sti

Koreaboo

FKA Twigs Follows EXO Kai's Instagram And Fans Are Freaking Out

Collab, please?

Kji and so many others are apart of so many other circles other than kpop and their groups.

UPROXX

FKA Twigs Remembers Being Roommates With ASAP Rocky Back In The Day

’I would always cook for them because they would never eat.’

Like celebs have very small private circles once one person is invited in then they get to know everybody else. Fenty offered him a contract forever ago, contacts like that don't just go away. Do people think just cause you don't see him publicly @'ing people that he doesn't use his instagram for other reasons, like be serious people have no idea who he talks to, they just assume he lives in an isolated shy baby doll world and he doesn't.

Kai literally refused for years to start an instagram and staff forced him to do one for promotion and he immediately deleted it. Asap rocky asked him for his insta once, one time! and he was right on it.

Public account. He'd been had a private one tho. And then he talked about it publicly which he did not have to do, but he wanted to.

Jennie alone is bff's with like 5 people that are always with the kardashians and several rappers. They all get invited to events with celebs if they have brand deals s.m just rarely posts it, so it's like it doesn't happen. People also assume they can't speak english and just stand in the corner which in most cases is not true, every korean person learns english in school. If they went to school and graduated they understand at least basic level english.

KBIZoom

BLACKPINK Jennie suddenly appeared on Kardashians’ new reality show, what's going on?

The appearance of Jennie (BLACKPINK) in the reality show The Kardashians made fans say, "Jennie is really everywhere".

She is also close friends with Dua Lipa and has been for years. And Dua had Kai rep her collab in 2022

It was an extremely private party and there's only a few photos, of course he didn't post any. That's just how s.m is they will fly someone to an event and there's no evidence of them being their unless the media and fans decide to promote it. They do the bare minimum which is usually nothing.

HELLO!

Dua Lipa stuns in glamorous plunging gown in Paris

The star knows how to make a statement

Back to Jennithea who is usually very busy with her socializing has so many Kdash connections it's insane. Along with various music connections, I would have to make a seperate post.

On top of going to their halloween party a few years ago, like they all know one another outside of just one and done events. Hollywood is very small. What people think super m was doing in hollywood for a week, staring at the wall? Kai was in LA even before that for personal reasons.

Arden Cho even went to one of Exo's last concerts in 2023, but did s.m put that in any social media posts or post a video publicly so it could get attention?

She's apparently a supporter, would probably love to do something to bridge the Korean and American Gap, but no they only wait until a big American label tells them to do something, they don't want to make proper connections or show off any ties to anything western if they can avoid it

Arden is an amazing actress, I can imagine what they could do if they showed more love and support to their Korean American Hollywood community publicly, all the fun things they could accomplish. It could really ease the gap between just feeling like they need to speak english and completely conform to America's standards. Imagine a reality show where they go visit Korea town and meet with community leaders. It's just sad, they are so focused with their fake artificial image they can't grow.

The literal only difference is some tell the truth and others hide is due to marketing, YG leverages appearances with celebs but S.M hides it because it does not fit their persona. When people leave S.m magically they stop caring about the stupid politics which doesn't help them anyway.

They all know other celebs, they talk, they go to parties, they hookup, they breakup etc etc etc. People are so ridiculous thinking the infantile baby thing is real, it's a complete act for most of them. Also most of the kdash clique know justin who's friendly with everybody.

Literally everybody

And Justin's bff knows kpop idols at least one,

and she knows Momo who knows

and wasn't Conan in Korea and literally went to the s.m building and got shown around by Key

Koreaboo

SHINee's Key Attempts To Recruit Conan Gray For SM Entertainment While Showing Him The Wonder Of K-Pop

While showing American artist Conan Gray SM Entertainment's building, SHINee Key's business-savvy mind kicked in as he tried to recruit him

Aw, look at Key trying to get Conan into an innocent halfu Japanese boy into a slave contract how sweet!!!

Koreaboo

H.O.T.'s Tony An Reveals SM Entertainment Made Them Give Blood To Create "DNA" Merchandise

In YouTube's documentary series, "K-Pop Evolution", H.O.T.'s Tony recalled the time SM Entertainment used the group's blood and hair to crea

90 percent sure they just took his dna to make more nct clones....

anyway

Like these people be clicked up. It isn't like after the cameras are done rolling they all never see one another again. The padding squad is such a joke, people actually believe those are his only friends it's so sad. That's a company marketing tool to get people to watch their god awful variety and reality shows they made for all of them. Why else where they always on kbs saying omg we don't know anyone else, we only are friends with our group members, company staff and a few tiny bit of people and then we go back in our company boxes until it's time to film the next comeback, like get real.

I make stuff like this cause at first I thought nobody knew, but in reality nobody really wants to talk about it which leads to others who don't research on their own completely lost cause how can they piece old info with new info, plus all the fake stuff that's online.

In conclusion stop being closed minded and stop infantilizing asian people. Good day. In the future if I reference a kpop person and connect them to an american celeb it's much more possible than you think. That's why I was so confused why people talked about Jb like kji would hate him or something.

Like really, "listens to explicit young thug and bryson tiller songs on full blast in public Kim Jongin" would hate bizzle team lightskin for the win Justin Bieber? Are you sure?

They couldn't possibly know one another.....are you sure? Kji and Hailey have been at the same events countless times and had the same sponsorships. The worlds that could never connect before because oh no, kpop idols are too lowly, the worlds are connected. They are compete for and get the same opportunities now.

Hollywood is extremely small as I just showed, and it's not hard to get in touch with instagram. Plus half these people go to the same parties, so I'm really not getting how it's so impossible? Like I'm sorry if a grown man says a year before that he wants to get a meaningful tattoo but is too scared of the pain, then a year later gets temporary tattoo's and puts the same exact tattoo and similar tattoos as another dude he used to look up to, and it's in the same place and he shows it off with pride both onstage and shoves it in the camera after the concert on ig live.

This was after he did a super long live talking about his childhood, and how much he wanted to learn english and visit america.

The sad part is how this is available for people to find, yet instead people would rather pretend you're crazy for mentioning things people would rather not talk about.

Then a couple years later does the same title track on his album as the other dude on the same year months apart. And yes on knowing bro's he said he was very much aware of Justin's song. He even said what month it came out. Like if he is so whatever about him why keep up with the exact month? Then in the behind the scenes for the peaches music video they were playing Stay by Kid Laori and JB. Which was a collab they did later in that 2021.

There's so much there but people so small minded and ignorant. Like the bullying random celebs cause it's fun atm and everyone is dogpiling on them is so lame. Especially if its getting in the way of you making clear as day connections. People so blinded by hate they can't see anything else.

The reason it makes me so mad, isn't cause people don't just buy into some random idea that I had, I didn't want this to be true, it's just I happened to be curious and dig and find that they most likely are friends or in the same circle. Sad how bp fans are supportive of their favorite artists having friends in other non kpop circles but some just bully and laugh at the idea. It's very racist and isolationist and very sad. Imagine how they would feel separating themselves from everyone to keep fans happy. Sadly even more people keep feeding into this idea making it more popular. They are grown people, keeping them from enjoying life and meeting people is only going to make them resent and HATE their jobs, fans and company.

Jb actually is surprisingly very nice, and has lots of friends in and out of america, the only reason I can think why cl or others would be comfortable posting or talking about him but a male idol wouldn't is because of those stupid clauses where they have to always be perfect and around other perfect people. They turn down many collabs for that reason. Exo didn't go to Coachella literally for that reason. If they were caught looking at a model or another artist with heart eyes, their fans would go insane, but not really they would just catch temper tantrums online cause they aren't behaving like a doll.

Anyway I look forward for more of the veil dropping, this separation stuff is so dumb, no grown adults should have to hide knowing one another for fear of scolding. A major wakeup call is needed. They aren't cartoon characters they are flesh and blood. A fan or an artist is not God. They are people. They are equal. They can't tell you what to do and you can't tell them what to do either.

Like if they don't know one another then that's just plain weird I'm sorry.

me when I'm on someone's account for fandom news and they won't specify who or what they're talking about cause they too scared to say something controversial and loose their fake friends/moots/followers

I hate this post so much. so many health issues and billions wasted each year from clogged arteries and disease. Don't romanticize destroying your body. Also some women do not diet for men but because they want to take care of their body. This is such a lazy take. Junk is a sad but currently necessary part of modern life where pizza and soda is more accessible than fruit and veggies. But that isnt something to want to change. In ever country where people overrely on overprocessed carbs health issues follow. Not every older person has an out of shape body. People just think old age obesity is normal and a fact of life but its a fact of junk and unhealthy eating.

Hate diet culture so much bitches will b like “don’t eat processed carbs they’re so bad for you” like and??? So what?? God did not give us grain and stone to grind it with for no reason. Bread is inevitable. Bread is food for the heart and the soul. U think I’m gonna give that up in pursuit of instagram fitness?? U think I’m gonna deny myself the simple pleasure of toast with jam so I can endlessly chase an ever-shifting standard of beauty that ultimately means nothing? In 20 years I will no longer be beautiful and in 60 my body will be vacant food for other, smaller creatures. But the taste of fresh bread? Of homemade donuts and still-warm pie? I will carry the taste on my tongue into whatever follows this life. So like. Stop telling me I should diet lmao. I’m not abt to martyr myself just to get a man to look at me.

pt 2 for album analysis

I've never done an album analysis before an album

like what if I'm wrong...but what is I'm right tho

Anyway I always thought a feature for a future album could definitely happen but it would have to be a foreign artist..wouldn't it?

Idk.

But anyway I really think it's going to be more symbolic than literal, the reality it the amount of spiritual messages in albums is paramount, so it's really what the focus is supposed to be on.

Bathtubs

the last album was about reality swapping and the fallen angel symbology was heavy in peaches but it was undercurrent. So if the main theme is water this time it's probably going to have more to do with the properties of water, such as how space and time and fluid.

he usually models his work after female black artists so if I look at some of their similar projects it should align at least a little bit.

But he also loves white male old hollywood and "imitated" elvis in his last album

which explains the black and blonde cause elvis was a natural blonde who dyed his hair black.

I think this is a remake? or inspired by one of elvis's actual suits

also the barber shop thing was really subtle

Like they do all these little things but if an interviewer ever asked them about it they'd be like huh what who?

He loved barber shops and doing his hair he couldn't leave it alone.

also elvis' military haircut was documented as well so I'm wondering if mimicking that was a joke? were they trynna be funny?

Did he get too into character again?

But if I had to guess, he wouldn't do the same thing twice back to back.

Hmm...thailand, water, pseudo spiritual, rnb and reggae again....

I'm going with a baby boy type island theme maybe a bit of survior.

also he's been trying to show his bellydancing off for years but the choreo and the music has never really called for it.

I think it's gonna be like a temple theme but probably similar to the mhmm kind of vibe but when he was in the white temple them. I think that's what I'm locking in. Usually I don't do this but I've been pleasantly surprised by the fact that they actually listened to feedback and he stopped dancing to corny kpop challenges cause it just wasn't working. So I think they are able to cut waste and bad ideals better and also work to their strengths and this is his strength to be honest.

Okay this was fun if I'm completely wrong oh well

But I think I'm right.

This is gonna sound so fake, so for the past few days I had tyla water in my head for his like album concept.

possible spoiler alert ig idk

So like I think it's not made yet they must be creating the concept and finishing the details rn, cause otherwise they wouldn't be doing all this obvious stuff. So since we still got time left here's some themes I want to be in the album

Siren vibes, but they can also add in beach vibes as well like tropical

there can be a reverse little mermaid story for the shortfilm

orr more aqua marine upbeat vibes

or like a fusion and make it sci fi

Honestly idk I have a bunch of theories cause it can also be more like beyonce's photoshoot

I just think they should go more indie and artsy and leave out the huge dance numbers that don't fit

What if the album cover is like 2005 blue crush vibes

I think the mv can be filmed more scenic

I have this huge marine spirit theory I made but it's like..eh nobody even knows what that is. Apparently people think it's all based off of some freaking manga. When that's total b.s mermaid legends exist globally I highly doubt over a literal decade of water symbology since his DEBUT, is based off a manga, please. Specifically in africa, I would like to just post all my theories but I don't really want to. But I would love to tie in the south american catholic symbolism in rover, cause there's so much, and it honestly goes perfectly with this beach theme, but I really don't have anything to prove so.

There is also pirates of the caribbean influence in peaches and years ago he said that was his favorite movie and they had mermaids in one film.

At the same times there's also a lot of atlantis references in peaches so I'm curious if it will be a red herring or it will actually tie into the mythos. Because in rover and mhmm he was in a dry desert but there were hints of him being locked in some type of water tank? in mhmm. But that could be a reference to them using him as a power source because water is a conductor. Idc what the internet says oceanic water has lots of salt and can respond to electricity. Also lightning in the sky is possible due to clouds. It's science somewhere in there, the ions and water and air creates energy.

Again it's still dealing with the four elements and creation energy so they are almost treating him like the creator deities in ancient egypt.

Though I am interested in how they are going to pull off the siren theme because mermen aren't usually seen in the media.

Although he's had the symbolism for years.

But I would love to at least get a legit analysis out before the album. I was supposed to do one years ago but it's like idk how people would react to it.

his teasers were more or less based off the four elements well five including the ether and /or electricity.

But water and sea life was the most prominent symbol for him and it's seen in almost every project that he has

in reality he's mostly portraying a creation god which is why he's in so many teasers and the others are usually in the teasers with him. His time stopping powers begin from debut also.

So it's clear he's a primordial diety not a simple one. Which is why in rover he kept switching identities because they recreate themselves over and over again.

Honestly I think their was so much attention on him having so many teasers no one actually considered that there was an actual purpose behind them or the exo mythos. Due to the fact that a majority of the concepts became intertwined with so many pop cultural moments at the time. Particularly when they began reenacting twilight and it was seen as cringe, I think the mythos became a running gag rather than something people actually paid attention to. Also there's so many cross references with other pop cultural works in kji's albums and things they were trying to recreate it got all muddled up so now people don't tie things together.

Like after peaches era they took a break and let him perform and tour. They still were continuing the mythos. There was tons of little easter eggs. I don't think I was psychic when I kept predicting what his next album was going to be it's just common sense. They always made sure his projects lined up with one another. They just also cover it up with so much drama and mess most people forget about it cause it "doesn't matter" the gossip matters even though it disappears after like few months.

Andante 2017 he had a love interest named Bom

Bom in Korean means spring

He volunteers at a hospice and frequently gets involved in their lives. He becomes emotionally attached to them and fixes varies issues for other people. In the show he acts like a guardian angel of sorts.

In the end of the show Bom "dies" of a brain disease but he still imagines her as being there.

2017

Kokobop

In the music video he has a tattoo of an angel on his neck

 January 13, 2018 

He was in a drama called spring has come

The female main character was called Naoko which in japanese means

In the show Naoko was innocent and easily tricked by Jiwon and was deceived by his charming and innocent appearance, frequently helping him out and loaning him money in hopes of him creating a life with her. She did all of it in hopes that he would marry her, but emotionally he was traumatized by his mother trying to murder him.

The show is a metaphor for death and birth shown by the visualizations of marriage and intimacy. Spring representing rebirth and creation.

Jiwon acted as the director of the family and was able to "fix them" and make them perfect just like he does his subject in the first episode.

Due to his interference the family goes from disgruntled to happy. Although his motives remain unknown.

April 2, 2018

he played an angel in miracle that we met that accidentally takes the wrong life and must try to fix the situation. It's a mix of guardian angel/ greek gods messing with the affairs of humans. He tries to reunite the original husband and wife but can't. Throughout the show he tries to make it up to her and they develop and emotional bond.

It reminds me of the concept of the film the preacher's wife where dudly is supposed to be helping the married couple but ends up falling for the wife himself. To be fair he only began getting entangled with the wife after the husband abandoned her but still

I do find it interesting that most gifs are of him and the female character that he dances with at the end of the show, but that "female character" is actually his male shapeshifting boss Mao and there was no romance there. I believe they are actually spiritual brothers.

The only "romance" or emotional subplot he had on the show is with the wife character

But I think cause of the age gap it went over people's head, even though his character is most likely older than her but whatever.

I think people don't understand subtlety in romance drama's like he picked out her clothes it's kinda obvious.

This angel who doesn't follow instructions character also coincidentally would align with his rover symbolism where he "played" a fallen angel.

It's especially interesting because Mao was known as the one with 10,000 faces or identities

the writing on the portal is also not korean, I couldn't find out exactly but it looks thai or arabic or based off that type of script? Enochian? Idk

It's almost like they like maybe pushed to get him roles that tied into the exo mythos. They apparently have a binder all the way from the 80s or 90s from lsm.

In the show the kids who encountered Ato and saw his powers in person join a forum called miracle that we met, which is where the title of the show comes from. The forum is a place where people trade stories about seeing supernatural beings like angels and aliens.

One of the kids in the show theorized that Ato was just a model that nasa had created--- some type of a.r model characters to roam around the earth and mess with people. Which is really interesting cause at the time nobody really knew about that. This came out after the space force began to publicize more information about their projects.

NASA Science

Spacecraft AR - NASA Science

Spacecraft AR is an augmented reality (AR) application that lets you learn about and interact with a variety of spacecraft that explore our

But this show was in 2018...interesting.

Even more interesting is that Kai had an Augmented reality type concert film.

Like they're getting a little too sloppy. So I'm pretty sure I can figure out the theme or at least I can try.

end of pt 1

the theme for responding to foolishness this year

im do tired of this convo. He is basically a mulatto if he isnt in the sun he is lighter and if he is in the sun he gets much darker than the others i do not understand why people do not understand this. They are similar complexion but kai has brown undertones its common sense. Like at this point what is wrong with dark skin nothing. So even if its untrue so what?

yeah idol men is awful and i really hope sm doesn't their idols go on there again. i'm pretty sure one mc made fun of jongin's skin tone :/

He did. He called it dark like coffee. Seems like no one found that funny at all. I’m pretty sick of this at this point. Like I’ve seen EXO in person. Kai is not that dark, actually not much at all and it’s a bit annoying hearing at it. Idol Man to me at first seemed a mess, but I felt people were at it to be a mess, but no the show is a mess and its boring this 2nd half just seems as if the boys aren’t into it and they seem hella disinterested. IDK I got the vibes they were uncomfortable.

this is why eggso never made it in the west learn how to take criticism and move on..no victim card victim card victim card. Jeez this was like a decade ago and people still say this. If they would of learned to make a simple casual track people could actually listen tp it. Nobody other tham kpop fans wanna listen to rock opera on top of rnb. They've been doing the same thing for 12 plus years. They have too many members who do the exact same thing cause s.m wanted looks over talent its the truth. They dropped 30 plus other boys for ones who had better looks its the truth. Exo used to be called boys heaven. They wanted more fangirls so they looked for more manhwa type looking boys. They went from focusing on talent to hyperfocusing on skinship and shipping cause mama floppes bad. They spent over 3 million dollars on the exo debut and they did not make back returns. They remade exo several times before they were successful. They didnt make exo for the east or the west. They went to los angeles a year into their debut. They went to russia and london within months of debuting. They organized a u.s concert 3 years into their career. It just didnt do well.

The guy above analyzed th objectively and was giving off advice their management refused to take.

Exo was meant for the east...thats a joke and a lie. I'm only saying this cause loes nauseate me. This is old but people still repeat this stuff. You wanna know the truth exos manager tried to get them attention from hollywood celebs and went in comment sections asking them to react to exo. They did promote exo and also tried to get them a grammy nom only they didnt realize you have to at least be involved in making your own music to get a grammy nom the reality is s.m is not good at their jobs. S.m got tons of western producers for exo. They just had way too many members and it was creatively suffucating that is why kris luhan and tao left. They all said so. They had no room to be a person with all those damn people onstage. They still have too many members but its too late now. They just have to deal with it.

Imagine being so ignorant you don’t even realize you’re ignorant. 

He makes a video saying EXO aren’t popular or have the same success as BTS in the west because their vocals cater to the “east” more, huh.

So having powerhouse vocals aren’t a western thing? TBH EXO’s music is pop and R&B and the style they do is as west sounding as it gets, also he said EXO should change if they want to get into the west, like sis you telling me EXO needs to stop what makes them unique to appeal to a culture that isn’t theirs for popularity, okay makes no sense but he counties to make it a point to say BTS changed to adapt to the west and their vocals have more feeling then EXO’s…..like WHAT? 

He claims to be a vocal coach but speaks subjectively instead objectively and he pandars, and as soon as he got called on his shit he wants to play victim. All be it some fans can do the most, but he really thinks he’s innocent here, and it’s pathetic, and he keeps posting bullshit, like SIS STOP. 

1.) Exo has some of the best vocals and has one of the most diverse discographies out there. They have the ability to adapt to any genre and sound and still make it EXO, and not to pander to the woahs of the west

2.) SM nore EXO have ever wanted to venture in the west, SM had made it clear that is not their prerogative. EXO made for captivating the EAST. West was never the plan.

3.) How dare you a vocal coach tell a vocalist to stop what they’ve learned and to adapt for clout.

I could go on and on, but I rather other add their opinion on the matter cause I missed something. Dude is a pandering, victim card whole ass mess. Makes me sick. 

PS: he makes vs videos all the time and doesn’t expect someone to clapback. 

even better what if they want to publicly date? What if they want to go on insta live with their partner, what if they want to discuss their crush on the internet. What if they want to take photos in the club with their partner or crush and post it what about that? This don't ask don't tell policy is equally unhealthy. It's normal to be curious about someone's love life but it's not normal for them to loose their career over dating someone. Maybe other things need to be confronted like why groups need to be best friends for people to like their music.

everyone repeat after me: “idol relationships are not any of my business and i do not need to know whether they’re in a relationship or not bc that is their personal life and they are a real living human being just like i am and it is not my place to invade their privacy or demand to know their private lives when they sacrifice enough of their privacy just by being an idol”

The fact that people thought he was joking says a lot....he wasn't joking he was trynna say something.

why.. is he like this..?

Kris Jenner on qcv promoting her latest product

210414 jongin on ig live with bobbi brown

Sunbae Noh. Fucking‐body

Which male idol would u trust to hold your drink at a party?

Rather than arguing with those I don't agree with I will channel my creativity cause that is my gift..arguing is not also its pointless.

Why being a company stan for a unorganized company makes no sense.

A few days ago I saw comments on x about kai's new comeback and people being excited and shaming others for thinking he could of used like a few weeks off maybe. I'm neither here nor there, personally I don't think it's a good idea how they overpromote him for no reason, cause a successful over promotion is like with the bp girls. A show, a movie plus a concert or something. That's a good type of overpromotion, not sleeping to do a hour live WHILE YOU'RE CLEARLY SICK. Sniffling and covering a cough the whole time like what was the reason. He's not a newbie, and saying he'll work like an animal, like a slavedrive animal, like that's cute to you? I already said he was the group's workhorse and it's true but it wasn't a compliment, he literally works to the bone for that group. That's a majority of his life for a boyband, a boybrand.

He has an amazing work ethic, but he's doing it at the wrong company, I can see doing that for a nice company but its sm even he knows it's crappy. They aren't even in their afterglow phase their being shuffled out by the entertainment industry slowly but surely. So him breaking his back for that isn't loyalty it's silly.

"I guess it looks like overwork to you"

Argh company fans are so annoying it's clear when they work for the company cause who else would say something so foolish. He already says he's a workaholic, he already said he gets sick at times. He's grown he can do whatever he wants but don't say people don't know what hard work is if they think hey maybe someone working a job for almost 2 years straight and doing basic training just might need five minutes to get himself together. Like at least mentally there's nothing wrong with someone getting themselves together as a person then going back to doing their other job, it's like a basic human right. That's my problem with sm unpaid employee's they do not understand that they do not care about these people. The little bit of attention they give them is fleeting, they are basically working to pay for their future replacements, after all this is over. When the show is done they are still a person who has to live with the state of their body, THEIR BODY. Not your body or a fanclub's body, their own vessel.

Nobody want to end up disabled or hurt because of a few fleeting years of fame, it's a humanistic thing to be like dang hopefully this person can heal and see a therapist before going into the spotlight again. Cause guess what if anything happens people can and will just move on. But there's nothing the person can do about it.

I would much rather someone be in a healthy state making art than a terrible one.

I like art, I love it but someone having ...issues and then putting their career first especially when the money isn't absolutely a necessity. It's ridiculous, what will anyone do if the person gets sick, if their body turns on them, nothing, not a damn thing. I'll write about the album, but I'll do it in my own way. I refuse to just pretend everything is peachy keen cause that just isn't me. I really don't get how people can't be mature about this type of thing, like yes, he's a good artist and his work is interesting. But the way he and his company is going about it is lazy and unorganized, and it's leading him to do multiple schedules in the same day for quite literally no reason at all. He did the same thing when he was about to leave for the military. The scheduling quite literally doesn't make sense.

For example, why wait until late at night to die his hair right after a live, what's the point of that, if he could of easily just did it in the morning. Even when they were overlapping filming and he was dying his hair and he was going back and forth between bleaching and dying it on the same day, to do different shoots. It was confusing cause it's clear he was literally damaging his hair, but that's more the fault of the s.m stylist from what I understand some had to take certification tests multiple times because they kept failing, and some may simply just be former s.m staff members who were encouraged to become stylists. I've never seen a liscenced stylist do what these people do. Even in the hood, they would of gotten their verification revoked and they'd of been reported. Some s.m artists have serious scalp damage and they even complain about it, but the stylist threw them under the bus and he said its basically his clients fault that their hair is damaged because they wanted lots of colors.

I have never EVER heard a stylist blame a customer for them doing a bad dye job, there are people who change hair colors every week and that do not suffer from that.

I never have issues with staff, while watching shows like bad girls club and other reality shows I was shocked that the stylists were not only professional, but always did such a good job on sudden dyes, alternating hairstyles to give the scalp a break and fixing random issues. S.m cannot have trained these people. Personally, that person who's the main stylist he ...something about him, I noticed so many things, but like the most important thing is the hair wtf are you doing to these people's hair. That is like messing up someone's skin, are you crazy? If someone has a damaged scalp that can be messed up for life. I will probably personally make a detailed analysis, on the awful nature of hair care in the south korean pop industry. If most weren't in trainee debt they would of sued these people. It holds a special place in my heart because I know how painful it is for something traumatic to happen to your hair. It's something people rarely think about, but that can harm people's health and self esteem. A professional has to be held to higher standards and to be so lazy about the thin layer of skin that is connected to someone's brain is crazy.

But in s.m it's clear they refuse to take accountability no matter what the issue. Also as the stylist it's there job to make the call about what is best for the client, sometimes wigs are necessary. Lace fronts exist, extensions exist, but the common scalp damage in the kpop industry is not necessary. It's do to schedules piled on top of one another that aren't properly organized.

It's there is a way to take care of hair under stress they just do not know how to do it. It's really sad and I think it could be a whole talking piece just by itself, it's insane to do this to people. I want to reitirate that there are people who have been able to keep their hair dyed for long periods of time and it's not badly damaged, or they have terrible scalp issues. In kpop not only is it not an issue, but it's almost like a joke. With even these stylists saying at least they still have hair and they should be bald.

Koreaboo

The Truth About Idol Hair Loss, According To K-Pop Hair Stylists

K-Pop fans often joke about idols balding after seeing how often they change their hair, but do idols really suffer from hair loss?

Do these people even go to a proper school? No bleaching doesn't make you bald, but it does weaken your folicles, what's happening is they are putting little to no protection at all on these people's hair. They quickly bleach it and then quickly put various dyes on it.

I go into so much detail, because this is just one instance of how they want to rush rush rush. Nothing is given anytime. They quickly need the hair to change, because "hurry we just did this live, and now we need to film a video online and then we will change it again cause it has to be a secret"

Are they seven years old? Nobody cares about a stupid hair color that much to rush and sneak around like that, especially if the person could literally lose their hair. It's so childish and goofy.

They rush on everything which is why they always have a subpar result. Kji was disappointed with peaches, and I didn't want to say anything or be rude, but it's because although they had 2 years it was still rushed. How does something you work on for two years become rushed?

Filming for one music video can definitely be about a week, but for s.m it seems like a day. Even exo growl was one take and for what. Could they not do it again, they even have kji dropping his hat and picking it back up, like why?

That isn't normal, but do you know why they do that? The only reason I can think of is that they don't want to pay their staff for multiple days at a time so it's easier to pay them for one day's of very busy work than paying them for multiple days of a regular work schedule. That is, I assume why they were filming Mhmm in the cold middle of the night in a garage, instead of waiting until there was better weather conditioning.

The whole company is very disorganized, I have many issues with how they do many thing, but the sole root of the problem is that they don't have a proper organization system in place to help put schedules in a proper order. This is why they have frequent visa troubles, and leaking hair dye during concerts, and members confused about recent choreography changes while on stage.

I think a few groups have a good organized and loyal team, and some groups have teams straight from the pits of hell. Why that is probably varies, but exo has one of the worst teams out there. The amount of things I've read is almost comedic. The team was always a mess, from the managers from the stylist. A huge problem is getting a huge team to match having 12 members, the only issues is they no longer have 12 members, why do they still have a huge team. That leads to multiple people doing the same job that one person can do.

The current mode of promotion seems to be blitzkrieg style, just have a bunch of random stuff happen to get fans talking and then promote something, come out with an album whatever. The thing is behind that is hiding a grueling schedule of work where the job is never ending. There's always something. Go to this concert late at night even if you're in the f#cking military and have a tiny window of a break, it'll go viral and we can use that as leverage for more investments.

But when they are not in the military and have an empty schedule they can't even manage a youtube properly. They deleted most of the footage kji recorded. So instead of just uploading a bunch of his videos he wanted to be on his youtube, oh no just go ghost and then we can have staff stalk you everywhere so fans can go crazy over it cause they have nothing else to pay attention to. These people really get on my nerves, they steal everything from japan except the actual good ideals.

Idol culture is DEAD,

NME

K-pop is facing a clear "slowdown in growth", says HYBE chairman

The mastermind behind some of K-pop's biggest groups has signalled warning signs over the potential waning growth of the genre.

just promote them like normal celebrities and public figures, let them travel, stop cultivating everything and scripting everything they do. It's lame. Just let them be themselves and film content when they feel like it instead of keeping them hidden until it's time to sell something. This is common sense or should be, but who wants to buy something from someone they know literally nothing about.

They are ghost for ages and then are overexposed when it's time to sell something. Like they can't change their business model even when it's clearly dying, s.m 3.0 is a complete failure and it's because the people doing their jobs aren't properly trained. Tons of people left and now a bunch of ai models are probably planning their schedules.

They didn't pay their staff so they lost so many of them who were actually useful,

allkpop

"80 people quit, the company is throwing away their artists and staff members," Alleged employees talk about the chaos at SM Entertainment

Recently, employees of SM Entertainment voiced their concerns on an anonymous online community, shedding light on the company's alleged mism

I feel like avex may end up buying out their contract because s.m is clearly lost on what to do with them.

Even when it comes to sm towns. They don't even know who will show up, why are artists texting on bubble that they are confused on why their names are up their when they already said they weren't going. Was s.m going to lie and say an artist was going to be there, when they knew they weren't coming to get ticket sales up, only to then blame the artist for not showing up. Did they plan on doing the same thing with kji. Why do they keep baiting fans that they will have a full comeback when the members are not saying the same thing. Why did the members say on live that kji was going to be at the next smtown, but then on the poster he wasn't there. Now they are updating the list?

Why must they update the list when this should be planned out months in advanced. It isn't illegal to arrange for plans for work once you get out the military. They are trying to tease fans that he will be doing a solo concert, but refuse to confirm a solo concert why?

I believe it's because they plan on creating a ruckus where people hurry to buy tickets and they don't have time to plan, so they waste money on whatever they can find. Super m concert's were well organized, at least in comparison but that wasn't there money they were playing with it was Capital Records. So they do know how to do their jobs but only with the threat of a class action lawsuit.