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No problem, but in my rambling, I was trying to be as polite as possible; I'm implying most kpop fandom works have the depth of a shallow pool. Besides blind praise that I don't feel most of it deserves, I really wouldn't have anything else to say. I was never rude to anyone, ever--they were simply reactive to me asking basic questions about the stories, which they couldn't answer. There are some fandom works I love, but there is no room to have a genuine conversation anymore. The artists are too sensitive to take basic level questions. I wouldn't waste my time critiquing a fan comic or fic that doesn't possess even simple plot structure. The rare times I have simply asked a worldbuilding question, the people get so offended not because I'm rude but they barely know what worldbuilding is. My writing or art isn't perfect, far from it. But the other fandoms I participated in left room for someone to call out stuff, or analyze. In this fandom specifically it's hard to do that because it's not that deep. I want to in my spare time, when I'm in the mood for exo content, to give someone who writes a good story a long comment. Maybe even ask a few questions, but it's a catch 22 situation. I understand exo fandom creators want their fandom back. I get that. I'd love more funny original exo content, but it's a different climate now. Somehow the one direction fandom is still making fanworks that get attention and get made into movies. But I just don't ever remember Anna Todd freaking out, because somebody asked her, why she put ab or c in her story. It wasn't a great story, but any critique good or bad she accepted rewrote and published it. And people who could read it for free still bought it, cause it's about respect. Respect is mutual. I would never blast someone else's story or anything like that. But many writers or even people making jokes, say things that are pretty far out, yet if you even slightly question it--you should just go somewhere else. No, I don't think asking an author what they want to hear is appropriate, it's not. If they wanted their comments or replies turned off to avoid noise they could easily do that.

Also by critique, besides me just telling the author my plain opinion, like I like the story structure, the characterization, pacing, descriptions? Or in terms of art, you can't say anything about anybody's art online, so I don't. I just heart what I like and keep moving. Fanart can be good, but a lot of it just isn't.

Creativity makes more of a mark than perfect digital art. Nothing feels handmade anymore or has passion. People can sense that. Again I'm not judging or saying I can do better, I am just being honest.

and to show a proper example here is a comment I once left.

I will blot out the author name and the character name. Usually I rarely comment. I don't feel like digging through all my old profiles to find more. I can compliment a creator all day, but many don't have much to say. Which is fine, but this author in particular, really really wanted people to comment. I felt bad so I did. It feels like they want comments so their work will seem popular more than they want to create a good story.

This was not a bad interaction it just felt like a pointless one, is this the type of response people want? In the past even teen romance writers had more substance. In the end I just feel like this works when a fandom is full of very young people who are happy with pointless conversations, but mature people want something real to talk about.

I wish y'all good luck though, hopefully some of what I and others said can help the way creators choose to interact with their audience in the future.

I Have a (few) question(s) for Exol.

I'm genuinely curious as to the answers, so if you see this could you please do me the favour of signal boosting this so it reaches more people?

I see posts circulating now and again about lack of interaction on fandom creation posts. No one reblogs. No one comments. But I never see anyone asking why. Is it simply a matter of being in the middle of an etiquette shift? Is it crossplanted members of social media communities having different social norms? Has the way people use Tumblr shifted? Speculation only goes so far so to better understand what I'd like to know is the following:

How long have you been on Tumblr? Any fandom not just Exo.

What is your take on fan created works on Tumblr and interacting with them?

Do you have a process for what goes on your blog? How do you find most of the posts you reblog? Through the dash? Through the tags?

Do you spend time on other platforms? Have you in the past?

How do you interact with fan creations on these other platforms? Do you like comment or share? Do you re-tweet? Etc.

When was the last fic of any length (drabble and blurbs and headcanons/reactions included) you read? Last time you saw fanart (including edits and moodboards and graphics) you enjoyed?

Did you reblog it?

If yes you did reblog did you say anything about it? Simple or otherwise? Leave a gif underneath that expressed how you felt? Put a comment in the tags? Left an emoji? Etc.

If you didn't leave commentary was there a reason? Do you feel like you start to repeat yourself when commenting? Do you think there's nothing to say? Were you following the adage if you cant say something nice dont say anything at all? Other reasons?

If no you did not reblog why? Is there a specific reason? Did you not like it and not want to say? Does it not fit your blog? Was it not a length or level of skill you felt warranted a reblog? Have your friends already seen it? Do you only post your own creations? Other reasons?

For our fan creators I have an extra question. Do you reply to your comments? Even if they're in the tags?

If no is there a reason?

Please take a moment and share your answers cause I'm trying to understand where things shifted from what they were before to now.

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Shawn Mendes | Los Angeles, CA (February 27, 2025)

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creddie will never be canon to me, I don’t care

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I feel like a big huge GIGANTIC maybe even GINORMOUS reason for the eventual and inevitable decline of the average kpop fandom, i.e the exo fandom is the absolute refusal and denial to have serious conversations. When I look at other fandoms some way older, others not even half as profitable as your average boy brand, the only difference that I see with the exo brand vs say a nsync or micheal jackson fandom or maybe even a gravity falls fandom, is conversation. See, whenever you silence the majority of people who actually have something interesting to say, don't be surprised when those that are simply following the wave, just move on to whatever is new and shiny. Supernatural is an old as hell fandom and they still have kept up a large support system, and it's not because they come out with new music every five minutes. It's because the writers, creators and actors listen. The fans communicate, they talk about serious things. Whether it's about the story, plot, an actor just having a baby and them sending well wishes. The average failed fandom is hostile, both inside and out. S.m is hostile towards the artist, the artist are distant towards the fans and the fans are hostile towards one another. You cannot have a different opinion than what the company is directing you to have, you can't disagree with the majority opinion. There's no talking anything out, there's no theorizing, there's no creativity, there's no point to anything. So how can you be surprised kpop fandoms die so completely after about 5-7 years, maybe a few after that. Even me saying will insult people and cause them to be negative. When this is just constructive criticism. Yet, nobody wants any of that in the kpop fandom. This is why once the companies stops promoting or giving major bucks to a group the fandoms die completely. It's not self sustaining. A lot of these fans have a lack of actual passion towards the group. Because what passion can you have for a manufactured product? Fans even insult a hypothetical groups of fans. Getting angry and cursing and throwing out toxicity more than they will say commentary on an album, or give an opinion on a video.

Even when it's something meant to garner talk fans ignore it and would rather get angry at something hypothetic, 'like yeah if anyone says anything negative about this I'll do xyz, screw them, or comment about allegedly seeing something negative written somewhere'

It's exhausting and immature. Nobody wants to be apart of something so negative. I get people want attention and comments, but honestly I don't blame fans for rescinding. Many fans must go to secretive forums to have conversations that would get them mass reported. And guess what? Some fans are still trying to get those forums shut down. You can't give an opinion, you can't talk about the obvious, you can't be happy if someone wants to leave a group and live their own life. You have to stay in this middle school mindset forever or you will get attacked. But then people wonder why people just lurk and don't say anything, or support the group. Nobody wants to support a bunch of lunatics.

People like to talk freely, laugh, make funny videos, people do not want to deal with being judged or mocked for making a joke. So many creators have been bullied into deleting all their work and now the same people who helped get rid of those people are wondering why their work isn't popular like theirs. I remember days when genuinely talented people would make content and it was great, but if they said something TRUE they were bullied.

It's honestly really sad, but I don't really feel bad. This has happened to loads of fandoms. Stop bullying people off the internet for speaking freely.

I'll leave this here as a food for thought.

There's only two exo creators I can name that made a real positive cultural impact with spreading the group to a global audience. Exosexo and madeline. Both were bullied out the kpop fandom spere. Nobody feels any shame for doing so. Despite the fact that many people constantly cry about idol's mental health, but had no cares for if these girls would of hurt themselves due to all the bullying.

I wasn't in the fandom when the two of them were bullied but I'm sure I would of thought the people doing so were pathetic just like I do now.

Once I found out the reason for them bullying exosexo and knowing that now she is doing a great job promoting her new fandom anime, and is really successful at it, it's clear kpop fans lost out.

Her grave sin was saying that all of exo had plastic surgery, to which millions of people called her racist and a liar....

I could insult but what would be the point of that. Stupid wouldn't even be the word. Most have said outwardly or implied that they've gotten it; or maybe the fact that you can see some of their surgery scars might be enough, but when you worship another human as a grown adult of course your brain has to be for decoration.

Even if she was dead wrong, how is that racist? It's not people just use whatever they can to make others shut up. Even trying to get journalists fired if they don't butter up whatever kpop idol they are talking about. As long as you act like a petulant child of course your average listener is going to dip and ignore and block any kpop content they see. In the end that poor behavior will only hurt the industry you are trying to support.

I can only be so real on here cause its tumblr. The problem isnt just her its him too. Actually its mostly him. He was taught by quite a few different choreographers none all that good believe me. But at this point he is winding down in his ability to dance well at all. He is really bad now, I tried to explain this to a team Kai person but they dont understand. They are both the same height so you can see both of their shortcomings way easier. People didnt complain cause tita is shorter and was able to let him play up the masculine dominant role more. In reality when I watched both versions he is the main issue. She has structual problems as well but their teacher who taught them both has so many issues himself and he passed it along to both of them.

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Saw a comment on twitter about kai possibly outgrowing bada lee as a choreographer (he was out dancing her in a clip) but the thing about choreography is you make it your own and kai is a DANCER. Not a person that follows choreography to a T; he WILL add his own spin to things that make it his. So it's not that she's behind, he's doing his own thing with the choreography she's giving him.

Talent is elevating what you're given, making it your own and leveling it. Kai does that. IDG ppl tryna discredit her...

Kpop is like an enigma the further you peel the creative layers back everything is black..then there's the colorism, featurism nd cultural hoodwinking

I dont wanna make a super drawn out post about the cultural cou d'état going on in kpop but like who else is gonna do it

REMA | Calm Down (2022)