Man, sometimes I read a fic where their version of Superman is so flat he couldn't even cause a papercut and the favored characters are all "Superman is the type of person who always thinks he's doing the right thing" and "Superman doesn't accept criticism" and "Superman is a bumbling farm boy hick stupid head" and "the Justice League is a bunch of elitist hacks and their club is only to hype themselves up because narcissism".
And I gotta. Like. Okay? That's a take, I guess. That's an opinion. It always takes me out of the story though, because it's presented as a known fact of the world of the fic despite little to no indication of those truths being reflected in the rest of the fic. It's a weird whiplash and it always leaves me almost ravenously curious as to what influenced this perception.
Sometimes it's explained as an unreliable narrator, sometimes an author's note will shrug off responsibility with "someone has to be the asshole lol", and sometimes it seems to be really and truly genuine and that is fascinating to me. I want to know the why's. I want to take them for coffee and listen to their perspectives. I want to understand.
One of my favorite Batman and Superman team up comics has a pre-jl storyline where they don't trust each other just yet. And because they don't trust each other, they both leap to save the life of a criminal being thrown out a window - they can't be sure the other won't just let this awful person die "accidentally". And because they were both distracted by that, an innocent hostage ran into the street in a panic and was struck and killed by a truck.
It was such a needless death. It was so bullshit and pointless. Both Superman and Batman recognized the need for trust, the need to let themselves be known enough, vulnerable enough, to not have this happen again.
And can y'all imagine how both their stories might have changed if future writers, canon and fanfic alike, kept that character growth in mind?
Fucking LOVING this energy, yes, thank you, this is a great take on a classic trope!
Jason would be so frustrated. He's kept his secret identity, but at what cost? I can only imagine the ribbing he'd get from his team once they find out, let alone the other Bats.
Now I'm thinking of the next inevitable invasion where all hands are on deck and half the League is wondering why Jason is still dressed as the Red Hood and the other half is wondering if the Bats don't know that that's Jason.
My favorite fic trope is the "JLA meets the batfam because they arrested Jason as he was undercover and now the family is coming to pick him up" one, but imagine. Jason gets arrested by the JLA while undercover, and is brought in for questioning, but before any of the batfam members even notice that he is gone, Green Arrow walks into the interrogation room.
"It's okay, Superman, you can let him go."
"Green Arrow, Red Hood is a wanted criminal on the JLA:s most wanted list-"
"What? No, no he isn't, that's just Jason."
Superman stares. Jason stares too.
"Excuse me?"
"You heard me, that's just Jason, my son-in-law. You can let him go."
"...your son-in-law is the Red Hood?"
"No? Jason's not the Red Hood, he is just dressed as the Red Hood. He's in a mercenary group with my son, he does that. It's pretty easy to dress up as someone who doesn't show their face for a job. Jason's no Red Hood, let me tell you that. Or I guess I don't have to tell you that, since you've already arrested him."
Jason's not really sure if he wants to murder Oliver or not.
Superman stares. Oliver raises a brow.
"So? Can I have him back, please, we have a family dinner today and we're already a bit late."
"...sure."
Jason gets let out. Oliver throws an arm around his shoulders as they walk towards the zeta tubes.
"I hate you, Queen."
"You're welcome, kiddo."
JLA does leave Jason alone after that, though, because every time they see him outside of Gotham, they just go "oh that's just Jason dressed up as the Red Hood again, move on" and Jason doesn't know if he should be annoyed or not. It does make his work easier, but at the same time, it somehow feels like an insult.
the identity porn potential of Ollie and Bruce both knowing each other’s identities but not revealing that to the Justice League is SO funny to me, like you’ve got Ollie at a Founders’ meeting kicking his feet back like “oh we need someone to infiltrate the event and sleep with both married targets? B, you’re a shoo-in” and everyone laughs thinking it’s a stupid joke because yeah, Batman’s gonna honeytrap both targets?
meanwhile, Bruce leans back in his chair and the corner of his lip curls just enough for Ollie to get the unspoken “let’s not start on breaking up marriages, hm?” his friend is so clearly thinking at him.
Se sabe que en Gotham está el rumor de que Batman sale con Bruce Wayne. Muchos dicen que para molestarlo sus hijos comentan que los han visto besarse, pero... ¿Y se fuera el propio Bruce el que confirmara eso?
Unos reporteros atraparon a Bruce y Tim entrando a Empresas Wayne. Entre tanto murmullo surge una pregunta:
Reportera: ¿Qué opina de que su hijo se considere abiertamente bisexual?
Bruce: ¿Cómo de que debo pensar? Es mi hijo, a él le puede gustar quien quiera, no tengo problema de que le gusten los hombres, no lo culpo, a mí también me gustan.
Todo se quedó en silencio, los reporteros que no paraban de gritar se callaron.
Reportero: Sr. Wayen, -habló con duda- ¿Es gay?
Bruce: Bisexual precisamente.
Reportero: ¿Tiene esta sexualidad por su hijo?
Bruce: No, yo identifique mi sexualidad, en realidad más tarde, a los 20.
Los reporteros seguían en silencio, ¡DURANTE TANTOS AÑOS NADIE SE ENTERO DE QUE BRUCE WAYNE ERA BISEXUAL!
La Liga de la Justicia que estaba viendo la tele en la Atalaya que por idea de Flash vieran las noticias justo en ese momento se quedó pasmada, TODOS, en serio nadie se había dado cuenta, bueno, pero con esa actitud fría y calculada ¿cómo? Y en realidad ¿Qué les importaba ese detalle? No es como si todos los podía conquistar con su sonrisa de millonario ¿verdad?
Y ni se diga sus hijos, estaban cada quien por su lado, pero todos vieron la televisión en ese momento y quedaron en shock. Más Tim. que estaba con él en ese momento.
El silencio duraría más, si no fuese porque un hombre grito a la distancia "SIII, ¡ESO ES A LO QUE YO LLAMÓ: ¡IGUALDAD DE GÉNERO!"
Bruce: Si y, me he enterado de que esta el rumor de que yo salgo con Batman y, lamento decepcionarlos, pero yo no salgo con él… Lo que sí, es que yo salía con él.
Los reporteros se quedaron más en shock, solo estaban ahí callados con sus micrófonos extendidos escuchando como toda Gótica, y si me permiten decir, el mundo.
Bruce: Si, claro, no podía formalizar la relación por, ya saben, es un vigilante, nunca supe su identidad secreta, pero su personalidad fue lo que me llamó la atención ¿saben?
Tim primero se quedó sorprendió con la revelación de su padre, luego confundió, por su “relación” con Batman, y ahora se aguanta la risa por, ¿lo debo explicar?, su padre, que es BATMAN, dice que estaba saliendo con BATMAN, y medio mundo, por no decir todo, se lo está creyendo.
Bruce: Y debo admitir que es un GRAN besador. Y me siento afortunado de poder verlo bien, no sin la máscara, pero con buena iluminación, resalta sus facciones y se ve muy bien…-todo esto lo decía con su tono de millonario juguetón-
Sus hijos que estaban como Tim, también estallaban de risa, nunca pensaron que su padre hiciera tal tontería, siempre pensaron que los que harían algo así en público serian ellos, jamás Bruce.
Bruce: Aunque eso fue hace muchos años, y terminamos bien. No por nada me sigue recatando cuando me secuestran. Pero desde ese entonces no hemos vuelto como pareja, no soy tonto como para regresar con mi ex. Si no funciono entonces no funcionara ahora. ¿Algo más?
Los reporteros se quedaron callados, aún lo estaban procesando
Bruce: Bueno, entonces eso sería todo, vámonos Tim.
Bruce y Tim entraron hasta el lobby y los reporteros no se movían ni un centímetro. Pero dentro, todos murmuraban, en especial los hombres.
Trabajador: ¿Ves? Eso es igualdad de género.
Trabajadora: ¿Cómo?
Trabajador: Igualdad de oportunidades, ustedes no pueden tener todo lo bueno.
Trabajadora: No sabía que eras gay.
Trabajador: Yo tampoco -responde mientras ve a Bruce entrar a irse en el ascensor- ese hombre hace milagros.
Recepcionista: Si entre mujeres era difícil, no me imagino ahora.
En el ascensor
Tim: ¿Qué fue eso?
Bruce: ¿Qué te pareció? solo, me deje llevar…
En la Atalaya
La Liga: …
Cyborg: ESE HOMBRE ES UN PUTO GENIO, MATÓ DOS PAJAROS DE UN TIRO. ¡DEFENDIO A SU HIJO Y AHORA NADIE SE LE CRUSARA POR LA MENTE PENSAR QUE SON LA MISMA PERSONA! ¡¡PUTO AMO!!
Green Arrow: Si, ya-ya entendimos Cyborg
Green Lanter: ¿Nos debería preocupar?
Superman: Eh, no veo porque
Green Lanter: Bueno, este, es Batman, y sus-sus planes de contingencia, es rico, es guapo, es muy atractivo… -su voz se volvía un murmullo incomprensible y se le notaba un sonrojo.
Aquaman: A ver, calma -dijo seguro- no hay porque ponernos nerviosos, no cambia nada.
Wonder Woman: Exacto, no hay porque actuar diferente –se le escuchaba segura, pero Clark noto su voz tambaleante y su corazón acelerado- ¿O si Clark? -tenia razón, y ella buscó apoyo en Superman-
Superman: SI, bueno, no, no hay razón por la actuar diferente, no es nada.
Flash: nada, NADA dice.
Superman: ¿A qué te refieres?
Flash: Como nadie se atreve, yo lo hare, ÉL, ES HERMOSO, y no se me hagan los tontos, todos piensan o pensaron lo mismo -todos, TODOS, voltearon la mirada, hasta Dinah y Oliver que están casados entre ellos- y no lo admitieron hasta este momento, Y NO INTENTEN DWFENDERSE, PORQUE SU SILENCIO ES LA RESPUESTA…
Flash: Ahí se me acabo el valor… -termino para desmayarse y Detective Marciano lo atrapó-
Detective Marciano: Creo que lo mejor es juntarnos mañana con él como siempre y hacer que nada pasó… -sonaba como si no le hubiera afectado- aunque solo alargaremos lo inevitable… -si le afecto, aunque sea un poquito-
Más tarde en la Baticueva
Jason: Pero ¿QUÉ-MAMADA-FUE ESA BRUCE? JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
Bruce: No lo sé, solo vi una oportunidad de divertirme y… la aproveché.
Dick: P-pero Bruce ¿Cómo-? JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA PERDÓN, PERO JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
Stephanie: ¿En serio? Por diversión, se suponía que esas oportunidades las aprovechábamos nosotros jajajajajaja
Bruce: Si, los vi ahí congelados y no pude evitar jugar con ellos, ja ya me imagino a Lex…
Tim: ¿Lex Luthor?
Bruce: Si… él sabe mi identidad, pero no puede probarlo, ahora menos y voy a gozar verlo en las galas con su cara aguantándome, jaja, será hermoso
Sus hijos pudieron notar la malicia en su voz, y no lo iban a admitir, pero creen que de ahí sacaron su GRAN sentido del humor.
日本の CN で “ JL ” は放送されましたが “ JLU " は未だ放送されていません。
JL Representative: *sigh* Which one this time?
Person: Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent AND Lois Lane have been caught making out at ___!
JL Representative: Nevermind, I'm going to sleep
Hear me out… in a universe where Bruce, Clark, and Lois are polyamorous, but no one knows…Bruce and Lois get caught making out by a paparazzi and the tabloids have a field day.
The JL is like “Batman wtf that’s Superman’s wife!”
Bruce’s PR team is urging him to release a statement saying that it was just close friends in a moment of passion and had no meaning.
Perry is pressing Clark to come out and say something about the situation.
The next day the tabloids are full of pictures of Bruce and Clark making out and now everyone’s confused.
Everything blows over with Bruce’s “reputation” intact as the most seductive celebrity.
Perry just doesn’t want to deal with it anymore and doesn’t want to know why his two best reporters are lip-locking with a billionaire.
JL just collectively sighs.
Ok here is a loose drabble thing for my DC Earth:
Earth-H-704
(This is gonna be a lot of nonsense with no cohesion, that will have to come later. Just need to get these ideas on paper.)
(Inspirations are the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited shows. Also quite a few Justice League comics)
- Clark and Bruce meet before anyone else and work together before the Justice League is formed (world’s finest)
- during this time Dick gets taken in by Bruce and Alfred and starts being Robin
-Barry and Hal meet and become friends, they also help each other out from time to time
-Diana comes to America as a diplomat but quickly establishes herself as a hero (she also meets Steve)
-J’onn J’onnz is already on Earth and is acting under his human identity as John Jones. He’s desperately trying to settle into earth and find his place here. He’s working as a detective.
- Arthur has decided enough is enough and also acts as a hero via guardian of the sea stuff.
- well to be honest everyone is establishing themselves during this time. It’s essentially the coming of the age of superheroes.
- Despite working with Superman every once in a while Batman and Robin are still technically a myth.
-So is Arthur who has only been caught on camera like 5 times.
- Diana and Clark end up working together over something in Metropolis.
- This leads to them becoming friends and working together more often.
-Clark introduces Diana to Bruce. They end up working together on a few things and settle into this dynamic. (Trinity)
- eventually a massive invasion happens that causes the main seven to group up and fight against these guys. (Super friends one could say… no it’s the Justice League!!)
- So for the most part they think it’s a one and done sort of deal but incidents keep happening that force them together. (Barry and Bruce working together on a case, Hal and Clark stopping meteors from crashing into earth, Diana and Arthur and J’onn work together to set up safety for aquatic life and talk about how the feel a bit out of place in this new world they find themselves in)
- eventually the Justice League properly forms after another invasion happens and they all work really well together.
- It’s the Trinity (founders (Clark and Diana lure Bruce in by claiming needing help) (he knows they don’t really need his help but he can’t deny them anything)) that properly set up the Justice League. Just with the seven as members for now but willing to add more.
-They all settle into this new arrangement well, and they get that Justice League building built.
- after a few attack attempts Bruce gets the Watch Tower built and then they all settle up there. (He’s attached now, he will never admit it.) (Diana and Clark know.)
- after this several other members are added (Dinah, Oliver, Zatanna, Red Tornado, Shayera, Carter…. Many more)
Basically this is it for now.
Other things that don’t really fit into the timeline yet but do happen:
- there are so many Green Lanterns. The Oa realized earth is a hotbed for universal chaos and recruited even more Green Lanterns for that section of the Universe. (Because I love John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, Jessica Cruz, just a lot of them.)
- Technically there was already an age of heroes that came and passed (Alan Scott and such) but they all either disappeared or went into hiding. (Listen I loved the image of Bruce and Tommy watching Alan fight in Batman: Hush. It felt so weirdly inspiring and I can also imagine Clark sitting down and watching The OG Flash be a superhero.) (I might change this and make these guys a separate universe but I love them so it’ll stay like this for now)
- MORE SIDEKICKS (Roy!! Wally!! Donna!!)
- Dinah and Oliver power couple!
- secret identity shenanigans
That’s all for now might add more later
Lois Lane and Clark Kent are two of the most capable and brilliant journalists the Daily Planet has. They have written articles that have brought people to tears, spread the truth about injustices, and have both won multiple prizes.
This does not stop them from also writing the most stupid gossip rag like articles after the Justice League have a fight on Twitter.
(Lois knows and Clark enables, they just wanna mess with them so bad and they make it so easy)
Ok so I’m working on something.
I might change up the formatting but we’ll see if this ever get finished.
Bruce about to reveal his identity to the JL
Bruce: “I’m going to do something that may traumatize two of you. I am not sorry.”
Oliver: “oh come on Batman you identity isn’t that special.”
Bruce going full whiny play boy: “Dinah! Ollie is being mean to me!!!”
Oliver: blue screens
Dinah: “YOU BITCH!?”
Bruce about to reveal his identity to the JL
Bruce: “I’m going to do something that may traumatize two of you. I am not sorry.”
Oliver: “oh come on Batman your identity isn’t that special.”
Bruce going full whiny play boy: “Dinah! Ollie is being mean to me!!!”
Oliver: blue screens
Dinah: “YOU BITCH!?”
Crazy Time Shenanigans
The Trinity get de aged by a rogue wizard and now the rest of the JL have to deal with it. The Trinity doesn’t remember being superheroes. I’m gonna put them all at like 7. They gotta deal with Diana and Bruce just wanting to explore the space station cause this is Diana’s first time away from Themyscira and yeah she’s a bit scared but there’s so many things and she wants to explore. And Bruce is amazed cause holy crap he’s in space!! And Clark is the only one actually scared cause he wants his mom and dad. Basically they act way different than what the JL was expecting.
Zatanna says that the spell should go away on its own eventually so it’s the JL being babysitters till then.
I swear this spawned from exhaustion and a sadness that super-sons is gone forever. Idk again probably needs more building but I think it could be funny.