As A Plural [questioning Origin] Who Is New To The Plural And System Community In General, I Wanna Point

(Just a little note from us)

We don't hate humans or humanity. We do have a bit of a general distrust towards humans we don't really know [much like some of the theriform versions of the creatures we are].

We do have (probably) human friends. We have had human friends in past lives. As stated, we do not hate humans. However, we are very cautious around unknown humans, and that doesn't make us bad or anything.

Hell, most humans would be cautious around some of the theriforms of our "types" (wild canines, wild felines, dragons, etc). And we would not hold that against them.

Hopefully, this is not very off-topic of the original post. We are autistic and adhd so this might not be the place and time for this, and if it isn't, we very much apologize. We are mostly just thinking we would say this now because, at least in our head, it is slightly tied in with the original post. (None of this would be an excuse, just an explanation, btw).

- Shay 🐾 | Host of the WildPack and a wolf dog cat crow creature, lol

Where are my nonhumans and alterhumans that love humanity?? I feel like everyone in the alterhuman community suddenly hates humans and it’s pretty sad to see. A creatures existence is not inherently good or bad, that includes humans too.

Where are my creatures who enjoy being around humans? Have human friends? Where are my overhumans and humankins?

Second poem to post.

Tw/cw: abuse but not named. Nothing else I can think of but let me know if you find anymore.

Another canine/dog related poem.

Trying something different with the read more thing being after the title of the poem.

I love like a dog

I love like a dog

Always going back

To people who hurt me

Cause that's what I

Was taught that love is

I love like a dog

Always letting people

I love hurt me

Cause that's what I

Was taught that love is

I love like a dog

Always waiting for

People to hurt me

Cause that's what I

Was taught that love is

I love like a dog

I hurt the people

I love just the same

Cause that's what I

Was taught that love is

We are gonna just call us (Shay & "kins") a subpack. If we end up being technically "wrong" with that term, then oh well.

- Shay 🐾

We have a question for plural beings.

How do you know if you are a subsystem/part of a subsystem?

We are now kinda questioning if "me" (Shay and "my" kins) are technically a subpack (we use pack instead of system).

We/I get uncomfortable at times saying I/me/my/etc when it should fit (example; my wings) and would much rather say we/us/our/etc at those times. But then there are also times when we/I seem to have no real problem with I/me/my/etc.

Even if we figure out that we are a subpack in our pack, we would still probably just refer to the "kins" as just that cause fictive feels weird for them?

Honestly, we are just pretty confused, lol.

Like "my kins" feel like "me" more than my/our other packmates, but idk.

- Shay 🐾

Not tagged, but we wanted to do this.

There are quite a few songs stuck in our head rn, lol.

This is the main one, though, lol. Watched some of the Agatha All Along episodes a few days ago, and this song has been stuck in our head since.

- Lakey (They/it + blu/blue/blues/blues/blueself) | I think this is the first post with Lakey, lol.

[Wanna mention that I (Shay/Zuki) am almost always 'fronting' and shit, so I'm still here as well as Lakey.] | {"typical" pronouns for me (Shay/Zuki) which are they/it}

ATTENTION

If you see this you are OBLIGATED to reblog w/ the song currently stuck in your head :)

This body may be human but we aren't.

- Shay 🐾

PSEUDOHUMAN

a term used to describe a being who may appear as human, but is not.

a symbol i made for this term.

note that i did not come up with the term, just the symbol.

using the greek letter for H (heta) and P (pi) i combined the two. the symbol is called heta-pi and is written as ͰΠ

i came across this term, and i find it describes me as a physical nonhuman perfectly, as how my human appearance is a deceiving illusion to myself and others.

This is so true!!

We don't believe we have DID or OSDD, but we are plural, and it does seem like our trauma affected our plurality.

We won't argue with anyone trying to say that we actually have DID/OSDD. It doesn't even really matter to us that much whether we do or do not. All that really matters is that we are plural.

We have had our moments of thinking that our trauma wasn't "bad enough" and shit like that. So, this post definitely helps a bit.

Remember, comparing trauma is not good for anyone.

- Shay 🐾

"my trauma wasn't bad enough i can't be a system"

whenever I hear people say this I always wonder, what metric are you using? your tolerance for how things affect you now as a teenager, or adult?

something that you experienced as a child is going to use a completely different metric! a child's brain is much less developed than an adult's and what they're able to handle is much less. for instance maybe you like horror movies? you probably can watch them without even getting scared! but if you watched the same film at 7 years old it would likely be a lot different!!

you don't need extreme trauma in order to have DID. it just needed to be extreme enough to YOU as a child, that's all. You got bullied at school? that's enough to develop DID! you had a disorder from an early age that made life hard? that's enough to develop DID! your parents were neglectful? that's enough to develop DID!

there's no such thing as gold star DID you don't need to have gone through the worst of the worst. there's no need for trauma olympics, if you have DID you have DID and that's all!

:3c

- Shay 🐾

Am I getting a good grade in tumblr mutual?

We are gonna open commissions soon and just use GoFundMe as the way to be paid. Link to gofundme.

Since we aren't really good at drawing we'll start the prices as (prices are based on traditional art, digital may cost less);

Level 1 (no color and kinda messy): $6

Level with color (color and kinda messy): $8

Level 2 (no color and not as messy): $8

10

Level 2 with color (color and not as messy): $12

Level 3 (No color and not messy): $14

Level 3 with color (color and not messy): $16

Examples (examples are traditional, digital will likely look different):

Level 1 (imagine this with color for that one):

Level 2 (imagine with color for the colored one):

Level 3 (imagine with color for the colored one):

Rules:

We will draw animals, anthros, humans, human-like beings (robots/androids, vampires, etc.), and items (headphones, collars/chokers, pencils, etc).

We will NOT do NSFW or tons of gore. We will do light gore (scars, a little bit of blood, bruises, etc).

We will NOT do any commissions for free, our art even though it's not that good takes time, energy, and supplies.

NO racism, homophobia, transphobia,ableism, systemmeds/pluralmeds, transmeds, proship, radqueer stuff, etc.

LGBTQ+, plural (any origin), disabled, agere, and alterhumans and nonhumans are all allowed (hate phrasing it that way but whatever).

We will do parts of the body (headshots, head and torso/body, full body, etc.) We aren't very good with hands and feet (for humans/human-like beings that aren't anthros).

After you buy the art you can do almost anything with it. You can NOT feed it to AI or anything like that. You also do not need to give us credit, although we would appreciate credit.

If you are curious about anything to do with our commissions feel free to ask! You can ask in the comments, reblogs, asks, or dms.

Edited: Also if you commission something from us please let us know on here in dms.

- Shay 🐾

We aren't really good at drawing but we are thinking of starting to do commissions soon. Are there any good tips for both art and commissions?

Like what's the best way to get the money from commissions (PayPal, gofundme, etc)? [And other tips for commissions].

Also just art/drawing tips for both traditional and digital.

[We don't have a job, are working on getting disability income, and the body's dad only gets disability and retirement so we don't have very much money.]

Edit: Also, what would you like to see us try to do commissions of? (Examples: animals, anthro animals, humans/human-like beings, etc).

- Shay 🐾

Adding on to the vent.

Tw/cw: suicide mention, suicidal thoughts, and shit like that

What do you do when in past lives you were disabled but still did stuff that you can't in this life?

What do you do when you realize that you should be more able to do stuff in this life but you are less able?

What do you do when you can't even talk about most of this to most people you know in person cause they wouldn't understand and would hate you?

What do you do when you want to make yourself more disabled than you already are?

What do you do when you are so close to trying to end it all because you can't see why you should keep living?

What do you do when you don't even think you could end it all cause you're scared and just not really wanting to end it all?

What do you do when you can't mention this to people cause you don't want to be sent away even when the place you're currently at sucks?

What do you do when you want to live but you want to die?

- Shay 🐾

Little vent from us. We are kinda going through some shit rn.

We don't think there are any tw/cw but if there are let us know.

What do you do when you realize that you might not be able to work a "normal" job or maybe any job at all ever?

What do you do when you realize that your disabilities affect what you are able to do in ways that are so against what you wanted to do and what you wish you could do?

What do you do when disabilities are actually disabling?

What do you do when other people don't understand even when they are disabled themselves?

What do you do in any situations where disabilities affect what happens?

What do you do when you need to tell people and make them understand that you are disabled and that means you can't do the same things as others?

- Shay 🐾

What do you do when you are disabled?

I wanna make it clear that while I check my posts multiple times before posting, there could always be spelling or grammar mistakes or even words used wrong or weirdly.

I have a learning disability [it's called Specific Learning Disability on my paperwork, lol], as well as being autistic and ADHD. So keep all of that in mind if you see mistakes in my posts. Also, if you are polite about it, do feel free to correct me.

- Zuki Shay Lupo (They/it)