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jenny holzer, truisms
As a trans woman and transfeminsit I'll try and explain this real simple for the people who need an ELI5, like the above OOP.
"TRF" is not even a pejorative just because people don't like the people they're calling that. It is an entirely straight-forward, factual description of a set of political beliefs taken from the title of a book that sells itself as reclaiming radical feminism, which all of the people called TRFs read and recommend to each other on a regular basis. Saying it's a pejorative and that TRFs don't exist just because they don't put it in their bio is completely ridiculous. They have absolutely zero problem identifying with the term and if I hadn't popularized it among people who are opposed to the ideology, I really don't doubt they would all have it in their bio.
The much more logical comparison would be transandrobro/dork. It's interesting it didn't bring that up, because that'd destroy it's whole fucking argument on it's own. That is an obviously hateful and insulting name for a group of people talking about their oppression. Yet even if we disagree on which group is legitimate and which isn't, you can still see that between the two one is meant to be demeaning and one is just the title of the fucking book they fuck the pages of. They do not actually have any problem with the comparison to radfems. If they thought TRF was insulting enough to be compared to any other derogatory word, then why was the book titled that? Why do they keep sharing around how brilliant it is? I need someone to explain it to me. What is offensive about TRF, and how can we reconcile that with the fact that you haven't all thrown the book called that all about reclaiming radical feminism onto a fire?
Now, 'Th**fab' on the other hand, first of all, was invented by cis men on 4chan with the intent to mock non-binary people. The only possible way to say it's not a slur is to deny this factual reality, but even if you did want to argue it was transfeminists who invented it, it'd still be a slur because it's essentially misgendering trans people in a way that this person specifically has complained about as being the worst most misgendering thing ever. I remember, because this silly twit tried using me to make the point.
If anything, it should be even more of a slur by it's standards, surely?
But here we also have laid bare the myth that non-binary people who are called that consciously choose to "cling to their AGAB." The definition of that isn't, as you might have thought, a non-binary person who "identifies" as AFAB, or lords it over trans women.
It's anyone who uses AGAB language at all. It's anyone who doesn't see the trans community solely in terms of TMA/TME. That's what makes you a fucking th**fab.
Plus, you know, th**fab is simply used as a slur. Just the other day I was talking about an extremely popular transfem Tumblr user who has been calling completely random trans men c**tboys for years and this January said that she's not so bitter and resentful as to be a trans woman who uses th**fab, but understands the complicated reasons why th**fab gets used. Which is just fucking bullshit, because less than a year before they used it to just casually call everyone but trans women to ugly to be sexually desired negatively. So that was just a massive fucking lie. Now that it's hot discourse again some TRFs are trying to play it like it's just an unfortunate reality of transmisogyny even though that doesn't match up how they themselves have used it in the past. It is a deliberate effort at lying to people.
I mean, in what world does those two screencaps - "I wouldn't ever use it but I understand the pressures that lead to it :/" vs. "lol th**fabs are unfuckable so who cares about their sexual objectification" - not prove that? That should have been the final word on the subject!
And speaking of how it's always been used, just to be thorough, I'll come back to my first point to help educate this crowd on the single biggest and most obvious reason it's a fucking slur and TRF isn't.
You're welcome, radfems. Stay after class, because I want to talk to you about your abhorrent behavior.
No worries! Again, I absolutely don't think you meant anything negative by it, bad wording happens C:
I'm still thinking about that one post (by a cis woman) where it was some news of abortion access being restricted, and she said "This is why I need to stand up for my trans sisters". Fully meaning trans women. and I just ... ugh. There are times where I can kind of understand the logistics behind why trans men end up being invisible in certain discussions but like.. are you fucking kidding
Hate to say it but the abortion issue isn't one where the opinion of perisex trans women matters all that much, if at all.
If you're gonna talk about trans people, it's always going to be only perisex transmascs and trans men that matter.
I know you meant nothing malicious by this and it might've absolutely just been poor wording on your part (which happens!), but please consider moving forward wording the discussion around abortion around the capability of getting pregnant rather than gendering it, even when talking about transgender people.
This is not exclusive to perisex transmascs. Many intersex trans folks people, across the whole spectrum, can or were able to get pregnant. Even if you meant as far as perisex trans people go, perisex genderqueer and nonbinary people who aren't transmasc and are capable of giving birth exist, and they also deserve not to be ignored in the conversation.
I'm still thinking about that one post (by a cis woman) where it was some news of abortion access being restricted, and she said "This is why I need to stand up for my trans sisters". Fully meaning trans women. and I just ... ugh. There are times where I can kind of understand the logistics behind why trans men end up being invisible in certain discussions but like.. are you fucking kidding
Hate to say it but the abortion issue isn't one where the opinion of perisex trans women matters all that much, if at all.
If you're gonna talk about trans people, it's always going to be only perisex transmascs and trans men that matter.
I used to push against the idea and I still do to an extent but the anti-transmasculine crowd has gotten to the point where I really do feel like it's beginning to get on par with how prevelant and awful the aphobic crowd was back in the mid-late 2010s
TERFs: having a penis makes you inherently evil
transradfem clowns: actually being a man makes you inherently evil!!!
TERFs and conservatives, who think 'being a man' and 'having a penis' are the exact same thing and will use that rhetoric to brutalize and kill all trans people:
This post by catgirlforeskin has nearly 1500 notes as of the moment, so as a trans woman and transfeminist myself, I'm going to provide some context on where this is coming from.
Firstly, it's obviously a deliberate lie because T4T just plain never meant transbians exclusively. That's just objectively not true and no one has ever once produced any evidence to the contrary.
We can tell it's disingenuous he constant whining about completely inane shit and bang out such comically over the top maudlin trash over how "personally upsetting" it is inevitably always comes from people like the OP, which is to say, absolutely holy fuck massive transphobes.
As an aside, TRFs seem incapable of realizing that gay disabled trans men of color exist. I'm sure that doesn't play a part in their conceptualizing all trans men as being essentially cishet White men.
Then, of course, to further sell this, they'll continue to make excuses for why it's okay when they're transphobic, such as when OP answered this question about the term th**fab:
Again, there's the immediate issue that this is a lie, other trans people are generally not any crueler to us than we are to them, I cannot emphasize enough that the idea behind the justification for th**fab is just completely fucking made up, but the bigger picture here is how these two things are framed.
Other trans people are cruel to trans women. Trans women are partaking in a "half-hearted way of hitting back."
The self-infantilization in the name of denying one is capable of harm is gross, but what else is new. Trans women are innocent fragile babies with paper skin and glass bones who can't do anything because they're just too pitifully weak. Poor dolls. Boohoo, the poor dolls.
TRFs might, occasionally, say they don't necessarily approve of trans women using it in this way, but understand the frustration that leads to it. Which is not really the gentle, nuanced take you'd expect of someone who randomly called all non-binary people in general that word in the process of asserting that they're too unfuckable to have problems like trans women do.
Which, as a side-note, is also the cause of the false claim about the term femboy. Supposedly everyone else is just acting out their fantasies of trans women but just don't want to say they're trans women. It can't be that some people simply like boys who crossdress.
Can someone tell me what OP, self-admittedly not a "woman who's completely in the grip of the sorta bitterness and despair that leads to that way of acting sometimes," was calling out as transmisogynistic in that screencap? Anyone? Can someone work that puzzle out? It's funny these folks seem determined to rewrite history on that one but are just totally a-okay with saying c***tboys should commit suicide.
The point of the post is this: Do not listen to these people. Never let them tell you trans men weren't there from the beginning playing just as much a part in shaping trans culture as anyone. Do not let yourself be guilted. Do not let their constant unbearable affected angst affect you or your choices. And especially do not let it affect how you see yourself, or your position in the community. Anyone saying otherwise will always be coming from a place of bigotry.
There are no sincere concerns, real wounds, or genuinely upset feelings about catboys supposedly being a rip off of catgirls, which, by the way, would not be transfem-originated anyway just like forcefem isn't. Resist the urge to allow people to tell you to give up pieces of yourself or things that make you happy on baseless accusations of appropriation.
Any trans women who cares about you, which is by far the vast majority of us, will tell you this in a heartbeat.
"Women are the only species expected to mate with our natural predators" they're not our natural predators, there's nothing about how dangerous they are to us that should make you go "that's just the natural order of things," stop treating this as inherent and inevitable, also you sound like a TERF, we're not separate species.
So you hate pancakes ass moment fr
The average woman working in the healthcare industry cannot comprehend a transgender man existing.
It may seem strange how many "progressives" are angered by the pretty obvious and milquetoast assertion that "Bigotry is a problem of broader society that manifests on many websites in many ways". But if you concede that 4chan isn't this unique font of absolute evil, a certain sort of tumblr user would lose one of their favourite pejoratives for trans women. Like the whole "4chan basement loser" thing already fits into their idea of trans women (at least the ones they don't wanna fuck) as "pathetic fail men". And by acting like mere association with 4chan (real or imagined) politically taints you in a way that say facebook or tumblr doesn't, you don't even have to feel guilty because those weird trannies are obviously bad people who love bigotry no further explanation needed. Sure there's no shortage of ways you can justify harassing trans women but a lot that requires more work; you need to spend like 5 seconds looking up what she actually said or did. Throwing out "they're a channer" (while yourself being a tumblr user) is just too convenient to give up
Unfortunately I recognise her and yes she is that one
what the fuck
what the actual fuck...
^^^^
If your argument is that transmascs had no place in trans culture in its beginning stages...
you should be WAY more concerned about what was happening to your transmasc siblings during those stages, than any kind of 'gotcha'
(Credit to @zaebeecee)
saw someone in the tags talking about being a "transmasc isolationist" in response to transandrophobia-
no! not that! the response to exclusionary ideologies shouldn't be more exclusion! that's how we got here in the first place!
watching y’all shamelessly send transmascs and trans men death and rape threats for daring to talk about their oppression is fucking wild btw. There’s a transmasc confessions account that got so many fucking death/rape threats that one mod had to leave tumblr for a while and the other had to make a post being like “hey uhm so we’re both minors. Y’all have been telling teens to kill themselves. Hope you feel good about yourselves!”
Genuinely what the fuck is wrong with you people.
Man I've been seeing a certain flavour of post recently in transmasc circles and like. We absolutely can and should talk about how transmasc interests are vehemently belittled. But it sometimes comes with the implication that this is unique to us, and like. I understand lateral aggression fucking sucks but it's super fucking not unique to us and ignoring that transfemmes and unaligned enbies are also mocked to hell and back is. Ridiculous and counter productive.
"It's all support trans people until it's a trans guy" no one supports any of us actually and we need to support each other. None of us should be playing this game.
Silly Azriel, don't you know that the moment someone raised as a woman identifies as a man, a beam of golden light engulfs the planet, transforming their bodies into the glowing ideals of pericisheat masculinity, melting away all trauma that arose from gendered violence, and erasing the entire population's memory of ever knowing them as a woman?
If it hasn't happened to you yet, idk, give it a few more days /HEAVY FUCKING SARCASM
"Feminism no longer needed" continues to be a popular sentiment among...... People who are not women.
Men and non-binary folks saying feminism is reductive are either delusional or just misogynists who just want women to Learn Our Place.
talking about transmasc issues is crazy because if your post gets popular you'll have someone say "your issues are real but you shouldn't use a word for it" and the very next reply will be something along the lines of "I'm going to rape you and get you pregnant"
Once got called a ‘another white TME’ by a transandrophobe, which is funny considering the fact that my profile picture is literally the Iraq flag. I’d argue that flag specifically is hard as hell to mistake for a queer flag, so I have no idea what they were thinking when they called me that
DFSKJGH
MATE DOESN'T IT HAVE ALLAHU'AKBAR ON IT???
Melting Lamps by kumbhglass
hydrangea armor by hallofstars
this might just be because i'm a tee-em-ee or wtv but personally. if i'm being 100% genuine. i think "transmascs have an innate biological want to return to their birth sex and become terfs" is more bioessentialist than "transfems are capable of hurting other people because transfems are people, and people are capable of hurting others"
edit: some dumbass bitch called me a nazi and a fascist for this post. btw
Everyday I am reminded that people with anime profile pictures should not have opinions.
"there is no platonic explanation for this--"
I fell asleep in my friends' arms. It was eleven at night, we were tired, curled up in a small pile on my tiny bed. I had my head buried in my roommate's side, and one of my closest friend's hand on my shoulder, steadying me. It was quiet and nothingness and peace and their heartbeats in my ears, my hands in their hair.
"there is no platonic explanation for this--"
We pack four people to that little bed, you know. Laps used as footrests, collarbones as pillows, little lights like moonlight in rustic yellow bathed on their faces. The TV plays an anime. The words are repeated by my dear friend on my shoulder, curled close. My legs are asleep; my roommate may be, too.
"there is no platonic explanation for this--"
The cat curls on top of our criss cross mess of legs and arms and heads on chests to absorb the warmth of us all. She purrs in contented peace. When my roommate and I are left alone in the quiet, she cries, and watches the door for our friends' return.
"there is no platonic explanation for this--"
I will never kiss them but the top of their heads. I will never touch but the warmth of their arms. I will never take more than what's freely given, and in return I put my glasses on the bedside table fashioned from a guitar amp, and when I lean into their sides, I pick up my vulnerability and place it in their capable, tender hands.
"there is no platonic explanation for this--"
I sing for them. I cry for them. I work and I run and I withstand the worst of the world for them, because some days I get to cradle their forehead on my shoulder and some days I get to see their shining eyes.
"there is no platonic explanation for this--"
Maybe to you. But look beyond explanation. I love them. With my heart in my unsteady hands, with my nose pressed to the side of their head, with the buzzing in my feet and the warmth all around Iike the sunset pushing into the window.
"there is no platonic explanation for this--"
Is it enough to say I love them? With no strings attached? With reckless abandon and utter devotion and freedom and kindness and fear?
"there is no platonic explanation for this--"
I cannot explain it any clearer. I love my friends. There is no more to say.
The privilege to be forcibly married off
The privilege of being raped and impregnated to "correct" their gender
The privilege of not being treated like a rational human being that knows their body by doctors
The privilege of having your existence erased
The privilege to have little to no studies about trans people involve your voice
The privilege to not have access to domestic violence shelters due to being a man (and not allowed in women's shelters) and not having many, if any shelters for men
The privilege of having your transition treated like you're becoming a violent, disgusting, monster
The privilege of having any sort of hormonal transition impossible to be done DIY due to heavy restrictions on testosterone.
The privilege of increased risk of cervical cancer due to reduced access to pap smears
The privilege of having abortion rights not apply to you
The privilege of being over twice as likely to be raped, compared to cis women (51%/21.3%)
The privilege of having almost 5x the chance of being sexually abused as a child, compared to cis women (50%:11.1%)
The privilege that when you are assaulted, to not have access to rape kits
The privilege of not being able to report a hate crime due to barriers
The privilege of experiencing isolation, rejection and distrust due to now presenting masculine
The privilege to have your pregnancy treated as some sort of sick joke
The privilege of a lack of credible research about how to provide adequate healthcare to transgender men undergoing medical transition
The privilege of not being invited for ovarian cancer screenings due to your gender being listed as M
The privilege of doctors not knowing how to check for breast cancer if you've had top surgery
The privilege of an increased risk of AIDS due to the most common PrEP meds such as Descovy not working on AFAB individuals
Others feel free to chime in! The list is ever growing
Ever growing collection demonstrating that TME is frequently used to be synonymous with "transmasc" or "afab trans people" rather than all people who are supposedly TME.
U ever notice that the trans archetypes the things that become big talking points and we have endless sludge discourse over forever are all always centered around trans women and what they do or don't do or what they like or don't like. have you ever seen anyone argue that a trans man binding or changing his posture & body language or getting gender affirming surgery is giving into sexist stereotypes? I haven't. Have you seen transmascs, their interests, their hobbies and their community, turned into prepackaged archetypes to crack unfunny jokes about like trans women are? I haven't. and i've certainly never seen people pound their fists loudly about how dangerous and fundamentally unsafe transmascs are, how they shouldn't be allowed in childcare or healthcare or working with women. I think literally every single creator or blogger i've followed who's been unpersoned in public consciousness overnight has been transfem It must be nice to simply be. It must be nice to not have to scrutinize yourself every second of every day, to not have the knowledge that everyone around you has such an easy way to turn you into a joke or a danger, and if they don't then they can invent one.
i do feel like TMA and TME can be useful terms in specific conversations but the way people treat them like a binary and as basically the progressive versions of AMAB and AFAB makes me have a knee-jerk reaction whenever i see them used and it makes me have to ask "is this person fucking weird about transmascs" and a lot of the time, they are, which is unfortunate because like i said i feel like they could be useful terms in certain discussions
deeply frustrating that 1. my poorly worded vent post about peoples' attitude towards forced pregnancy is the one being reblogged 2. people are comparing being forcibly impregnated with being forced to impregnate someone
those two things are utterly violating in different ways and i think comparing them undermines the unique ways in which both of them are violating and horrific because they are not the same