I Will Say As Someone Who Previously Followed Genderqueerdykes Before Shit Was Brought To My Attention

The way "transemasculation" has been seemingly re-coined as the sole replacement for transandrophobia, anti-transmasculinity, etc. is gross enough by itself, but as far as I can tell, the term had ALREADY been coined in 2022 ALONG WITH talking about antimasculism (both described here). And I just. I knew it wasn't in good faith in the first place, but to not even do 5 minutes of research before trying to coin a term about experiences you don't have...? Hello?

This is a false equivalency.

The term for somebody who is transfem and who is oppressed for being transfem—is transfem. Intersex people are intersex. Transfem people are transfem. Perisex people are not intersex. Non-transfem people are not transfem.

TMA/TME is more closely equivalent to if I said IA/IE (intersexism applicable/intersexism exempt).

The reason TMA/TME is problematic is because it fails to acknowledge that non-transfem people can be impacted my transmisogyny—the same way perisex transfems can be impacted by intersexism. And also because it completely ignores the existence of the oppression transmascs experience, categorising them in with their oppressors. The TMA/TME binary is problematic because it collapses complex interplays of oppression into one binary system.

If you want a word for somebody who is transfem and impacted by transfem oppression in the way somebody who is transfem would be? The term is transfem.

“Transfems really are the only people who can’t have terms for their own oppression” I have a question. How do you feel about the term “transandrophobia?” How would you feel about the terms “TAA” and “TAE” (transandrophobia applicable and transandrophobia exempt)? If you’re okay with those terms, I’ll eat my words (somehwhat, it’s still weird, but at least you’re okay with it across the board). If you’re not—why? Do you think trans men don’t experience specific oppression? Is your issue just with who coined it? How do you feel about the term transemasculinisation? Anti-transmasculinity? Please consider why you think it’s okay to restrict the language transmascs use to describe their oppression.

Further, why not make it TMNA/TMNE (transmisogynoir applicable and transmisogynoir exempt)? Black trans women absolutely face the highest rates of assault (assuming black trans men aren’t being erased in the statistics, which is a big assumption). If you’re talking about systems of oppression… why not consider the most impactful axes? Why only consider the axis of man/woman? Consider what this says about the proximity of your theory to radical feminism.

What an absolutely strange and deranged thing to comment under a reel about a lesbian couple getting married dude.....

it truly is the most privileged men who come on here acting like their experiences are universal

i’m glad that the white man kevin who lives in a blue state in the USA got to go on testosterone when he was 16 and the only misogyny he ever experienced was being told ‘you throw like a girl’ but that does not apply to all of us

why do the kevins of tumblr feel the need to downplay our oppression. i am glad that kevin never got raped or beat up or had medical care withheld from him for being a trans man but some of us don’t get to have it that easily

tme? what does that mean?

just means female at birth lol

what the actual fuck...

As a trans woman and transfeminsit I'll try and explain this real simple for the people who need an ELI5, like the above OOP.

"TRF" is not even a pejorative just because people don't like the people they're calling that. It is an entirely straight-forward, factual description of a set of political beliefs taken from the title of a book that sells itself as reclaiming radical feminism, which all of the people called TRFs read and recommend to each other on a regular basis. Saying it's a pejorative and that TRFs don't exist just because they don't put it in their bio is completely ridiculous. They have absolutely zero problem identifying with the term and if I hadn't popularized it among people who are opposed to the ideology, I really don't doubt they would all have it in their bio.

The much more logical comparison would be transandrobro/dork. It's interesting it didn't bring that up, because that'd destroy it's whole fucking argument on it's own. That is an obviously hateful and insulting name for a group of people talking about their oppression. Yet even if we disagree on which group is legitimate and which isn't, you can still see that between the two one is meant to be demeaning and one is just the title of the fucking book they fuck the pages of. They do not actually have any problem with the comparison to radfems. If they thought TRF was insulting enough to be compared to any other derogatory word, then why was the book titled that? Why do they keep sharing around how brilliant it is? I need someone to explain it to me. What is offensive about TRF, and how can we reconcile that with the fact that you haven't all thrown the book called that all about reclaiming radical feminism onto a fire?

Now, 'Th**fab' on the other hand, first of all, was invented by cis men on 4chan with the intent to mock non-binary people. The only possible way to say it's not a slur is to deny this factual reality, but even if you did want to argue it was transfeminists who invented it, it'd still be a slur because it's essentially misgendering trans people in a way that this person specifically has complained about as being the worst most misgendering thing ever. I remember, because this silly twit tried using me to make the point.

If anything, it should be even more of a slur by it's standards, surely?

But here we also have laid bare the myth that non-binary people who are called that consciously choose to "cling to their AGAB." The definition of that isn't, as you might have thought, a non-binary person who "identifies" as AFAB, or lords it over trans women.

It's anyone who uses AGAB language at all. It's anyone who doesn't see the trans community solely in terms of TMA/TME. That's what makes you a fucking th**fab.

Plus, you know, th**fab is simply used as a slur. Just the other day I was talking about an extremely popular transfem Tumblr user who has been calling completely random trans men c**tboys for years and this January said that she's not so bitter and resentful as to be a trans woman who uses th**fab, but understands the complicated reasons why th**fab gets used. Which is just fucking bullshit, because less than a year before they used it to just casually call everyone but trans women to ugly to be sexually desired negatively. So that was just a massive fucking lie. Now that it's hot discourse again some TRFs are trying to play it like it's just an unfortunate reality of transmisogyny even though that doesn't match up how they themselves have used it in the past. It is a deliberate effort at lying to people.

I mean, in what world does those two screencaps - "I wouldn't ever use it but I understand the pressures that lead to it :/" vs. "lol th**fabs are unfuckable so who cares about their sexual objectification" - not prove that? That should have been the final word on the subject!

And speaking of how it's always been used, just to be thorough, I'll come back to my first point to help educate this crowd on the single biggest and most obvious reason it's a fucking slur and TRF isn't.

You're welcome, radfems. Stay after class, because I want to talk to you about your abhorrent behavior.

Once got called a ‘another white TME’ by a transandrophobe, which is funny considering the fact that my profile picture is literally the Iraq flag. I’d argue that flag specifically is hard as hell to mistake for a queer flag, so I have no idea what they were thinking when they called me that

DFSKJGH

MATE DOESN'T IT HAVE ALLAHU'AKBAR ON IT???

Ahhh I think I would fuck with they/them pronouns but I don't think I could ever use them for as long as tme people continue to degender trans women by they/themming us. Like if I go by she/they. I know which ones are gonna be used if people got a problem with me.