Just now seeing TVNAT au and i might be falling in love with it just a little bit.
I wanted to ask how this version of dream sees himself? As someone who struggles with dissociation a lot and happens to be guilty of projecting onto our favorite villain, I'm curious on how the lack of pain and having gotten used to "playtime" would affect how he views his body
I remember pretty clearly how such a disconnect with my body and the things it felt would make me think of it more like an object, i thought that might be something interesting to play around with. Does he think of himself like a doll, knowing how easily his limbs can come apart just to be put back together? Does he see himself as one whole or does he see his body as more of a toy?
Apologies for the long ask, tysm for sharing such an interesting concept if you happen to read this<3
Thank you for liking the AU!
TVNAT!Dream sees himself as a 'tool' and has always been a mean to an end. He doesn't treasure it in the sense that he doesn't care about the amount of harm inflicted on it, but he also adores his body in the sense that it remembers all the experiences it went through. Is it complicated? Yes, but in his mind that is how it works.
He cares and doesn't care for his body at the same time. He would destroy it without a thought but also cradle it with care. Losing his sense of pain only further fuel his dissociation.
However, it did make him extra tanky. In addition to the fact that he is essentially immortal due to the revival book, he is an unstoppable force should he decide to go after someone.
i'm erasing myself from the narrative
can you take my white ass to funkytown
There's something to be said for c!Dream actually switching to c!Schlatt's side for the book. A purely transactional move: c!Dream (as even stated by cc!Dream) had no motive to side with c!Schlatt other than the book. He was just holding up his end of a deal. Even when there wasn't really anyone capable of enforcing that deal! Like, yeah, c!Dream obviously had other stuff going on with c!Wilbur behind the scenes re. L'Manberg's destruction, and he wasn't exactly giving the war effort his usual level of enthusiasm—he literally led them straight to c!Schlatt—but he did still fight! There was still some semblance of a battle, no matter how one-sided, and I'm not convinced there would've been had c!Dream not stayed.
Because c!Dream really didn't have to stay. It would've been so easy to just take the book and leave everyone to fight their battles without him, or even to openly join Pogtopia's side, but he didn't. It says a lot about his insistence on fair exchanges, deals, favors for favors. Even when his reputation as a "good person" is beyond repair, he strives to maintain that reputation as a trusted ally.
Eret told us what the original lore finale was going to be. Her and Foolish were going to fight DreamXD, not in the End but on XD’s watch. It was going to be revealed that the whole server-reset thing was a cycle and that it had already happened possibly thousands of times before. There would have been hints to different relationships cEret had with others characters that were going to be explored more in-depth in Volume 2.
This is absolutely insane because
1. So much of his lines up with all my headcanons
2. They were going to go through the End Portal and end up on DreamXD’s watch. What are the implications here? Does the DreamSMP simply not have an End? Is that why he was always so insistent no one go through the portal? Because he didn’t want anyone finding him? Was XD’s realm literally just a portal away this entire time?
“Your pet would eat you if you died near it” yeah well so would a lot of people. My pet isn’t special. I give them food meal & never let them outside. Are they gonna open wet food themselves when I’m gone? Are you stupid? If I have to be the wet food to buy a little guy some time so be it. Fuck off
the dsmp was good. it told interesting stories, in interesting ways. a lot of love and heart went into it. even the ending. there's no qualifiers here. it was just good and enjoyable and i'm glad it happened.
inside me there are two lungs. and one liver. one stomach. a few meters of intestine. there's a lot inside me actually
next we lear n that badboyhalo is secretly working for the mafia and has killed twelve innocent children and people will blame it on dream being too involved with the fbi
/dsmp /rp
I've seen a lot of discussions about Dream and Punz's relationship in the past months. Mostly about how Punz didn't stop Dream from going on a suicidal path, and how Punz is mainly an enabler who couldn't or didn't offer Dream the (emotional) support that he needed. I do agree with this assessment in part, but I think there's a bit more nuance there that can be explored. This turned out to be quite long so the rest can be found under the cut.
Punz is not the one to take charge in his and Dream's plans. That's just not the kind of relationship they have. When Dream says they need to stage a betrayal, Punz is more worried about the execution of that plan than about the actual plan itself. This also happens with the Revival Book. Punz offers suggestions to improve plans or clarifications on how a plan will work, but he never tells Dream he can't do something, or that they need a different plan. Punz already had this role when he was still only Dream's mercenary and it never really changes. Dream has a plan and Punz helps him with it and offers suggestions to improve it. It's been said before that Punz is an enabler, and this is actually true. While Techno would say something like, "That's a dumb plan, you need to try a different plan," Punz would say, "That's a dumb plan, here's how to improve it." But I don't think Punz is like this because he cares about Dream's plans so much. Punz's friendship with Dream is very important to him, so I think it's more that he cares about Dream so much that he can't bear to tell him no.
When Dream gets out of prison, Punz is happy about two things. 1. Seeing Dream again. and 2. The plan being back on track again, the server being "back to normal." It probably becomes clear very fast that they cannot just continue their plan as normal, with Dream having been tortured and then wasting away in the prison after breaking out. Punz most likely already has a baseline level of anger towards the rest of the server and this only increases after learning about what happened to Dream in the prison. Punz is very, very angry at the other server members, and it's getting harder and harder for him to keep up this façade that he is against Dream. So when he and Dream find out about the imbalance on the server caused by too many revivals and also the subsequent corruption, Punz probably immediately jumps on the solution to kill everyone who is against them. Finally, finally, he and Dream can solve the problem with division on the server once and for all. Finally, he can get rid of the people who mistreated Dream so badly, who are so simple-minded and unwilling to listen.
Punz does offer emotional support to Dream, but not the kind of support that would pull Dream away from this path toward self-destruction. Punz's support mostly consists of him helping Dream with whatever Dream asks. Dream needs help with the Revival Book, Dream needs Punz to pretend to betray him, Dream needs equipment after escaping the prison, Dream needs Purpled's help with taking revenge. Essentially, Dream has nobody left but Punz, and Punz makes sure that Dream can always count on him to be there. Dream isn't the type to open up quickly about his feelings, so Punz tries to make him feel reassured and that he's not alone, that he can depend on at least one person after being betrayed by everyone else. Offering reassurance and compassion is emotional support as well.
I think Dream also hides a lot of his real feelings from Punz, because Punz immediately says that "Dream is always pretty happy" when Dream tells Tommy that he is "happy now". It could be that Dream is so detached from his feelings and so dissociated all the time that there's only the outward excitement about the Revival Book left, which Punz reads as happiness. Dream generally deals with negative emotions by telling himself that he'll deal with them in the future, that he has "forever to think about it", so he doesn't have to deal with them now. I think Punz desperately wants Dream to be alright again, but he doesn't know the right words that would get through to Dream, so he just tries to support him through actions instead and hopes that this is enough to make Dream happy.
I don't think Punz is aware of how destructive their plan exactly is either. In his and Dream's view, they will deal with the imbalance by killing (almost) everyone, and then they will live forever to unravel the Revival Book and fix everything. Dream will not be alone because he has Punz, and they will always have each other. They will have eternity to figure things out and can always revive people at some later point. It takes Tommy literally seeing Dream's perspective through his eyes to finally understand Dream, so it will be unlikely or at least very hard to get the rest of the server to listen to Dream. Until Tommy opens up the possibility that people might be willing to hear Dream out, this is simply not on the table at all. Most people hate Dream and want him dead. This is demonstrated by Tommy as well since he literally kills Dream even though Dream has not done anything to him in almost a year. Dream and Punz's plan is the only solution they see as viable in the face of so much hatred and destruction. And they can't just walk away either, with the problem of the imbalance, the corruption, and also the Egg complicating matters.
So in summary, I just don't think Punz is in any kind of position to be able to stop Dream from continuing his self-destructive plan. Punz helps Dream with his plans instead of offering a different plan, because this has always been the kind of relationship he had with Dream. Punz probably thinks that this type of support, this reassurance and loyalty, is also what Dream needs after being betrayed by so many people. Offering deeper emotional support is hard for Punz when Dream deals with his own emotions by pretending they don't exist and are a problem for later, so Punz just tries to do whatever Dream wants because he thinks that this will make Dream happy. Punz eagerly supports the plan of killing everyone since he is so angry at what the server has done to Dream. And as nobody is willing to listen to Dream, Punz sees no other solution either.
here to be a creature mostly, might indulge in putting my faves in a box to psychoanalyze them from time to to time
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