UGHHH I HATE Badhole Homer so much, he stinks because the anime and manga NEVER show him taking a bath, which makes him a sexist because he stinks in Annie's presence. He also hates Reiner with all of himself because he died after wanting to make sure Eriner is safe, thus leaving Raina alone, do you think a real friend would do such a thing huh??? Hertholdt Boover is just THAT selfish and sociopathic. He is also a Nazi, because I said so! I hate him so much, I hope @aleja-gwiazd-biegniemy WILL NOT post any great drawing with him or I will spontaneously combust UGHHH >:C
eggmin........ scrambled..................
@grubyszopiel fry your Bertholdt
family :>
MY FUCKING LORDDD IM SCREAMING
tfw you take responsibility
UPDATED version because I've been corrected on some things
jimmy, as co-captain, was unfortunately needed and couldn't be disposed of
pony express should carry the brunt of the blame - sending people into space and THEN telling them they're fired; not installing locks in the sleeping quarters; etc.
anya said "i have to believe our worst moments don't define us", implying she forgave curly, at least to an extent
every moment seen through jimmy's eyes could and should be questioned. he's an unreliable narrator
jimmy wanted curly to take the blame. he wanted the crew to blame him. the game wanted us to blame him for the crash (until the reveal)
curly got burned because he faced the explosion head-on; trying to fix things
anya died first; she did it with the last remaining painkillers which could've been used for curly; she even did it in front of him
jimmy shamed and attacked curly during the birthday scene and curly didn't react; implying their relationship was never smooth and truly friendly
it was never explicitly shown what anya said to curly. perhaps she never specified jimmy raped her. curly was shocked when she said she was pregnant, he didn't connect it with anything
anya telling jimmy she was pregnant is what made him crash the ship
it's implied anya told swansea about jimmy and he did nothing. he only attacked jimmy a while later, as revenge for daisuke
it's possible curly was only ever visited by jimmy, aside from anya
jimmy crashed the ship 147/365 days into the trip; the same day anya told him she's pregnant. assuming she found out a bit before that, and women find out they're pregnant when they're two weeks in (by "default", it could be later), by the time they got off the ship she would've been about 7 months pregnant - she would NOT have given birth on the ship
swansea had been 15 years sober
curly most likely wouldn't survive the cryopod. entirely skinless and then frozen? hell
curly was the only one to have clearance for the sweetener
curly very pointedly looks at jimmy ALL the time after the crash
after curly's conversation with jimmy (the "feet in cement" one), right before jimmy crashed the ship, the screen goes black and there's heavy breathing, implying curly was left panicking
jimmy gives curly medicine 3 times - first, with anya relatively nearby, a fairly normal intervention; second, with no one nearby, where jimmy assaults curly; third, alone again, he doesn't assault curly but he still cries, he's permanently scared of jimmy
curly was already struggling with insomnia before the crash
while anya was locked in medical, jimmy told daisuke she might do something to curly
anya said the mouthwash couldn't be used as disinfectant and jimmy still did it
jimmy drugged swansea; he convinced daisuke to go in the vent by saying swansea would be proud of him
curly and anya and jimmy all talk of "handling things"
jimmy says curly receives praise all the time; implying he was a good captain (he was also the only one to get exceptional references)
swansea had a wife and kids; daisuke mentions his mother, the creators of the game said curly loved spending time with friends and family. they had people waiting for them
jimmy said cartoon horses excite him and anya's baby is presented as a horse
Don't get me wrong, shipping Jimmy and Curly is a no-no for me, so maybe I shouldn't comment on it, but the fact that shippers didn't call them or tag them as “cummy” disappoints me quite a bit.
(I don't want any proship/antiship wars under this post, be chill folks, I don't want to wake up in the morning with 99+ messages on tumblr dot com LMAO)
You took my thoughts out of my brain, I wanted to write something similar, but I'm afraid my English is not good enough hahaha
This could be controversial, but I want a more nuanced conversation about Curly. I’ve seen what people have to say on TikTok and it makes me froth at the mouth. It’s either “He’s just a baby,” or “He’s a monster who never cared about his crew,” OR, which actually aggravates me the most, “He’s morally gray,” with NO further elaboration.
So here: A deepdive into Curly’s character, intentions, and actions.
Before I begin, I want to talk about what I see as a misconception in the Mouthwashing community.
This game is masterful at subtlety. There’s a lot of specifics that we as the audience don’t know. What infuriates me is that we pretend we do.
Something I hear often is, “Curly didn’t do anything when Anya told him she was assaulted.” There’s merit to this claim, but the situation is more intricate than that and it’s contingent on one very important factor: We don’t know what Anya told Curly. All we know is that she told him something, and it had to be something that would implicitly imply Jimmy as the father, but would still shock Curly at the idea of Anya being pregnant. While this could be interpreted as Anya outright having told Curly, I don’t buy that. He’s weirdly confused and flustered, he even questions “Who-?” in a way where it seems that he initially believes Anya had a fling with a crewmate rather than that she was assaulted. There’s a palpable ignorance in his response that implies to me that Curly finds out with us that Anya has been assaulted.
All this implies to me that Anya said something mildly vague, but still extremely concerning. Something like:
“I’m scared of Jimmy.”
We know she didn’t want him in the medbay, we know she didn’t want him around her. We know Curly knew this. Curly knew she was afraid of him.
He ignored it.
He ignored the signs of something more sinister in favor of feeding his idea of Jimmy just being a gloomy, down on his luck guy- more than anything, his friend. He should have listened to Anya when she said she didn’t want him in the medbay, when she said she didn’t want him near her. But he’s “known him for a long time.” He wanted to believe his instincts about Jimmy over Anya’s.
To Curly, the signs could have meant a lot of things. Anya simply being afraid of Jimmy could have meant that she just felt off about him; She just didn’t like him. A mere character clash. Of course, it was more than that. But Curly’s blindness was a mixture of ignorance and faith. He didn’t believe Jimmy was a bad person, he didn’t think he was scary. He trusted him.
In regard to the events of the game, a lot of people place a good chunk of the blame on Curly, which I do think is somewhat deserved. But I think it’s better to recognize his responsibility and how he failed.
The claims and reprimands of what Curly should or should not have done can only come from the omniscient presence we as the audience have. There’s inconsistencies in modern moral standards. The verdict of how good a person you are in a situation in where you must choose to trust or distrust a good friend is dependent on whether or not that friend is actually a good person or not. The idea that Curly knew Jimmy was dangerous is entirely baseless. Curly put all his cards on Jimmy, dismissing Anya’s discomfort as being a mere clash of character to his detriment. There were signs of his degeneracy, but Curly above anything wanted to believe in Jimmy with the standards of being “a good friend.”
Again, these assumptions are contingent purely on my theory of what Anya told Curly. The game not showing us what was said in specifics is intentional because they want us to know this and only this: Curly did something wrong. He has to have for the themes of the game to work. He works as Jimmy’s foil. He has to do shit wrong, not taking Anya’s fear seriously and not stopping Jimmy immediately from crashing the ship (which is also an effect of his trust- with a mixture of his own feelings of doom and failure,) to take responsibility where Jimmy cannot.
What substantiates that to me is Anya’s line, “I have to believe our worst moments don’t make us monsters.” It’s a line in relation to Curly. We’re meant to believe that this is her thinking he crashed the ship, but she’s actually talking about how he failed her. That was Curly’s worst moment. And Anya, in that statement, forgives him for it, or at the very least, doesn’t see him as a monster. Jimmy takes both “Our worst moments don’t make us monsters” and “I’m taking responsibility” and tries to reflect them on himself, but really they are statements bound to Curly. Curly is everything Jimmy wishes he was and because of that, Curly’s character shines a light on everything Jimmy isn’t. Curly ran into the cockpit in an attempt to salvage the ship, even when he knew it would crash, while Jimmy sat in a fetal position outside the door, weeping. Contrast.
That’s really all I have to say. I needed to get this off my chest, because Curly is probably the most interesting character to me in Mouthwashing, but gets a lot of one dimensional character analyses. I think a lot of it stems from the subject of SA being touchy, which I understand. People want to see it in black and white because it’s comfortable to them, but it gets complex with other people involved like Curly, who has good intentions and still ends up enabling Jimmy.
I would love to see what other people have to say about this because there’s probably a lot of things I missed. Thanks for reading all this if you did.
Polle says: Don't stop smiling! Haven't been posting art in some time, huh
Symbolic representation of the gesture my sister's cat made towards me after I spanked her ass.
I did not hit her, I was curious how she would react to a slapping on the back. I saw on the Internet that some cats like it, so… I think she liked it, but when I walked away a bit she looked at me and made this motion with her paw xD Then she kept on cuddling, so I guess I'm not doomed hehehe
b-berturtle..... 🐢🤲
r-reimster..... 🐹🤲
@h0-0d
(please, let's pretend he's built more like a terrapin than a tortoise 🙏)
My life is based on discovering that there are species of cool amphibians that I have never heard of before xD Dear folks, here I hand you a creature with the Polish name “odmieniec jaskiniowy”, although personally I prefer its English name which is ✨olm✨ I've wanted to draw this beautiful nastiness for a long time and here is the opportunity xD Everyone should know about the existence of olms <3 Fun fact! Along time ago, when a intense rain washed some olms out of the underground waters, people thought they were some kind of baby dragons xd I love the idea honestly <3
A little note: They shouldn't be taken out of the water, it harms them as much as harms axolotls ;c So I drew some bubbles around Srebrna that she is supposedly underwater xD Lack of oxygen and the possibility of drowning won't stop her from meeting the olm
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