They are the best of friends.
Did u see the new spiderverse artwork cuz I sure did knfiejge
It's like a competition to see who of the two is more in LOVE and Gwen definitely WON by far.
At their farewell in ITSV, Gwen wanted to kiss Miles but she hadn't dared to do it and she realized it too late (Her lips are all puckered up)
That girl revealed in polaroid the photo she had on her cell phone and brought it with her everywhere
Every day she thought of him for a year (and i bet she even dreamed several nights of him)
She literally hallucinated with the image of Miles in the windows lmao
She dedicated songs or long drum solos to Miles, venting like mad all her frustration at not being able to be with him (Yes, that is much WORSE than the drawings)
She could no longer lead her life normally without him
Gwen didn't care that Miguel had appeared out of nowhere until she saw her interdimensional clock and automatically thought of Miles
All the while Gwen was talking about Miles with her friends
For Gwen, Miles has ALWAYS been AMAZING in her eyes.
She put THE ENTIRE MULTIVERSE at risk just to spend an afternoon with the LOVE of her LIFE, it's INSANE
Her mind is clouded every time she's with Miles and several times she just gets carried away
She got jealous as HELL because Miles had a less than 10 second conversation with another girl and dragged him off on a LEASH
And she created an ENTIRE rescue team just to save him
Yes, Gwen is definitely the biggest SIMP in the multiverse by FAR
If Miles is in love with Gwen, she is TWICE (If not TRIPLE) as MADLY in LOVE with Miles
Best Spider-Romance ever. 🤍🖤
Honestly I think anyone who has been read 1 of my analysis can see what my opinion is, but I am curious about what the ghostflower fandom thinks of this.
Please vote and reblog so others vote too!
Not only is there everything that he had to go through in ITSV (Horrible things and feelings that accumulated and that yes or yes they are going to explode in BTSV and they are going to blame their friends), but he had a lonely life for a year and a half, with anxieties and panic attacks, wanting to dedicate his entire future to seeing his friends again, only to feel stabbed in the back by them and feeling painfully betrayed.
And I really can't imagine what Miles's head is like inside after ATSV and in BTSV, the amount of traumas (Some that come from ITSV) and serious psychological problems he's going to have because of his friends that he didn't even care about when they met him except for Gwen. If you think about it, this trilogy is the story of a wonderful boy, who has no malice whatsoever, who never did anything wrong, who never hurt anyone, and even so, he ended up completely broken by things that He was getting out of hand and now he has no problem seeing his friends as his enemies and confronting them.
And as if that weren't tragic enough, after that, literally his entire WORLD, the thing that gave his life SENSE, collapsed, fell apart, in just a few minutes because of a lunatic who doesn't want anyone in the multiverse is happy just because he couldn't be.
Headcanon that at least half of Miles' community already knows he's Spider-Man cuz bro LITERALLY WORE HIS NAME TAG WHILE IN HIS SUIT??
THAT'S YOUR CUSTOMIZED SCHOOL BAG WITH "Miles" WRITTEN ON IT, SOMEONE'S GONNA KNOW IT'S YOU 😭
He, without having a choice, had to do in two days, what took all the other Spider-Sonas in the multiverse weeks, become Spider-Man, all under the unimaginable pressure of being the successor to the previous Spider-Man of his universe, which left the bar too high, having to meet everyone else's expectations, and having to go through a tortuous journey while learning from his mentor.
Even when the spider-gang not only didn't trust him but even seemed to dislike Miles at first (Except, of course, Gwen and Peter B, who are very special cases)
And pressing him to see if he was ready and treating him like just a kid (Even Peni).
All so that he then went to his uncle, who was like a second father to him and someone who truly understood Miles, only to find out that he had always been a hitman, going so far as to almost end with the life of his nephew, until he realizes what he was about to do and... well, tragedy happens.
The death of Uncle Aaron, due to the depth and history behind it, remains the most tragic "death of Uncle Ben" in all of cinema... ever.
Miles stopped being the same since then, and even when a hurricane of emotions possessed him, he learned that no matter what, Spider-Man always gets up and keeps going, at the same time he learned to take his leap of faith. Before becoming Spider-Man he had a normal and happy life, but after being bitten by that spider his whole life fell apart, but of course, Miles is someone truly strong and full of determination thanks to the people close to him.
In two days, he surpassed almost the entire Spider-gang, and in a year and a half he become almost a professional as Spider-Man, even giving lessons to everyone else, and making it clear to Gwen and the others what truly means being Spider-Man, not standing by crossed arms while someone is in danger, but trying to do everything you can to save everyone, doing both things, even when it seems impossible, Spider-Man should always try, because everything it's possible.
At the same time that Miles felt stabbed in the back by the same people to whom he wanted to dedicate his entire future just to see them again since he felt alone and sad inside in the world without them, and, specially, without Gwen.
And let me remind something, Miles actually thinks she doesn't even love him and only sees him as a friend, but he still wants to see her
On the ATSV betrayal, he release all that hurricane of emotions that he had to swallow and accumulate inside during ITSV and during that entire year and a half for not having time for ALL those things said before, leading him to have anxiety and panic attacks (Something confirmed in the synopsis of the short "The Spider Within")
All so that they later reveal to him that he was a mistake, an anomaly, that he should never have been Spider-Man, that he killed the Peter of his universe, causing everything that gave MEANING to his life fell down in just a few minutes, leaving Miles more traumatized, mortified and with more trust issues than he already had before.
He really became one of the most tragic character of all the saga (Along with Peter B and, put it in some way, Miguel O' Hara)
And just because Miles looks with a cool and chill personality doesn't mean he's any less traumatized and mortified on the inside (An example is Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man).
Even though in the comics that nickname is only used because that is what his universe is called, in the movies, on the other hand, even though there are people on the internet who deny the fact that he is currently becoming an unstoppable phenomenon that is marking an entire generation and will mark future generations, Miles Morales proved to be, without a doubt, the Ultimate Spider-Man.
As a bonus, even though she always screwed up with everyone around her, both the living and the dead, Gwen showed that she really loves Miles and that he truly is the love of her life, however, needless to say, she has a lot of work to do in her redemption arc to be able to fix things with Miles, which will be very difficult but not impossible, even more so taking into account all the hate she received for everything that happened in ATSV.
Now she has to PROVE not only to him, but to all of us viewers, that she truly deserves to be with Miles, that they can have a life together by her own merit, and that all the hate towards her after the ATSV release it's truly unfair.
However, I have to be realistic, there are characters like Peni or even Peter B who should not be anything more than simple 'acquaintances' or 'partners' for Miles, since, with what they did, the term "Friend" It's too big for them.
In any case, Miles has the last word.
Now that the SAG-AFTRA strike is over, WE ALL NEED BEYOND THE SPIDER-VERSE, dude, if ATSV was perfect and revolutionary in every way, imagine how the last film in the trilogy will be.
Basically that E-42 Ganke is literally Nine while in that same universe there is Miles G/The Prowler being literally Shadow The Hedgehog and Miles Morales/Spider-Man on the other hand being literally Sonic The Hedgehog traveling between dimensions like in prime?
Thinking thoughts again guys.
Thinking about Ganke (42)
More SPECIFICALLY thinking about Ganke as Doc Oct. Or at least, a variant.
I MEAN COME ON!!! TRYING TO GET ACROSS DIMENSIONS?? STUDYING THAT SHIT? That may be more of a 1610 Miles thing but I like to think that both Ganke"s are REALLY interested in it too. Or at least 42 is.
I feel like with the way their world is too, 42 Ganke is more likely to get a position at Alchemax. At the very LEAST for their science and tech and ease of access to stuff for his own projects.
But like. Come on. Look at him.
I just wanted to show that picture...
Assuming we know nothing(or little) about this Ganke's parents, is it too daring to think that, perhamps, his mother is Doc Oct? Or father, if we're being different. Just A PARENT in general?
And maybe I just like projecting onto them, but also maybe like... do you see what I'm getting at. Her ass probably hates kids. And isn't easily impressed. So imagine having a kid you probably don't even want (for science? Maybe.... more angst potential..) and he grows up absolutely DESPERATE to please you and get told that you're proud of him and that he's enough. And then he gets to an age where he no longer has to rely on you (or other people, her ass did nothing to raise him), and he starts thinking for himself, and since you're all bad and evil and stuff you realize something.
This whole entire time, the past thirteen long, dreadful years of your life, you haven't been using your full potential.
You have a pawn right at your fingertips.
A young mind full of turmoil and the overwhelming need to please you.
Someone who can be easily molded.
Manipulated.
Shaped.
Formed.
You have a tool.
Just sitting on the couch right in front of you. An entire person of just wasted potential. One who was sat on his ass for his entire life and done nothing (in her opinion)
And if you're all evil and bad, what are you gonna do with that information?
You're going to use it.
"Hey son I know I haven't really talked to you since your birthday three years ago but how would you like an opportunity to get close to the very grand and very loving mother that I suddenly am?"
He's going to say yes. That's like giving a mouse a cookie.
The chance to be with his mom some more? To finally get the chance to prove to her that he is worth loving? The answer might as well be a flashing neon green sign. Capital letters. Y-E-S. Because why wouldn't he
So she starts training him, in small ways at first, going easy on him since he's still just a boy, really, but gradually working him up with harder and harder tasks and missions until he's finally earned himself a pair of his own robotic octopus arms (that he had to engineer and build himself)
And FINALLY for ONCE in his fucking LIFE he is making his mom PROUD OF HIM. He finally gets the love, the praise, the appreciation he's craved ever since he was a toddler.
Ooh, and he's doing such a good job hacking into top secret shit and files and such a good job stealing and doing his mother's dirty work and-- what's this?
There's this new kid on the block.
Apparently, the old Prowler's retired. His alliance fell through. And the new Prowler? His loyalty has completely flipped. Motives, too.
Instead of aiding them in raids and taking out enemies, he's now actively ATTACKING them and foiling their missions.
Instead of being a villain like the rest of them, he's suddenly trying to get RID of the villains?
The fuck is this guy's problem.
Who does he think he IS suddenly poking his nose into shit he DOESNT belong in?? SCREWING UP GANKE'S CHANCE WITH HIS MOM!!! The chance he's been waiting SIXTEEN YEARS FOR! Oh, he's pissed.
He overhears hears his mom talking at a meeting about a plan to try and lure and trap this kid to get him off their asses (he's a master at sneaking and eavesdropping at this point.. even just to hear his mother's voice and think up ways he can make her like him) and he decided that this is his moment. His calling. His purpose.
That very night, he decides to make the Prowler (junior, as they're calling him) his very own personal mortal enemy.
But little does he know
The guy he's constantly trying to kill every night?
His roommate.
Yeah, The Prowler Junior(™️) is his high school roommate and (soon to be) certified best friend.
Blah blah blah they fight all the time oh but now they're chill and- I just blinked why are you guys kissing and holy hell your mother found out and tells you that you don't deserve your last name and will never live up to your potential (which, she claims she knew this, which is why she gave him his father's last name and not her own. Lee.) and you're fighting with Miles again and yet oh God now you've been disowned and have to go to him for help Oh No That's Bad What.
:3
Do you see the appeal. I need to draw him. And make more of this AU. What should I call it? I'll be thinking.. also open to suggestions I'm Bad at naming stuff......
OKAY BYE
I really don't understand why it's said that she literally doesn't know how to communicate with people, because until now I've only seen the opposite among her friends. In fact, Gwen is one of those people who, the more trust they have towards the other person, the more open they are, it's not something weird and it's something very different from "Not knowing how to interact with anyone"
Besides, "Losing the sanity" is not the appropriate term to refer to her situation either in the prologue or when she was kicked out of the Spider-Society, another VERY different thing is that she has been desperate, that she does not know what to do, nor anyone to go to, because if she had really "almost lost her sanity" she would have gone totally crazy until she sank into dementia, something she was never even close to being in that situation, in fact, the only two characters who were really on the verge of losing his sanity were Miguel and, of course, Miles, who with the short "The Spider Within" we saw how really broken he was inside, and even worse after ATSV.
gwen is so funny as a character. we saw her as such a Cool Teenage Girl in the first movie. she figured out so young how to be spiderwoman, beat bullies at school to protect her friend, is a punk, a drummer in a band, does ballet and adds the grace of her movements to her swinging and fight style, makes her own clothes and changes her hair every month, etc etc.
all that only for us to find out the most important thing about her character is she's a LOSER despite all that. she can't make friends except for peter, can't communicate with people properly, makes a fool of herself in front of her crush's parents, makes terrible decisions under pressure and tries to avoid conflict until she's on the verge of losing sanity.
and ykw? that's exactly why i adore her character so much. fake girlfailure lovers when real girlfailures (gwen stacy) come at them: oh no why would this traumatized homeless & alienated teenager do this....kill it with fire
Hudson Thames, the voice of Peter Parker in 'Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man', was afraid that the series would be "Woke"...
When that asshole finds out that the character who is considered THE definitive Spider-Man, who's also the most iconic hero and the face/center of the entire franchise along with the classic Spider-Man is everything he considers "Woke", he's going to give him a stroke 💀