Something That Really Bothers Me Is That There Are People Who, To Defend Gwen I Guess, Exaggerate Or

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"Fans": "iT's miLeS fAuLT bEcAusE hE IsN't sPiDeR-mAn"

I never wanted to say this, but the Spider-Man fandom has become a bad joke, there are people who do not know that Miles is the Barry Allen or the Hal Jordan of the franchise and who not only do not recognize him as Spider-Man , but they don't even recognize that it has become an unstoppable phenomenon thanks to Spider-Verse. What a FUCKING disappointment.

ITSV: Aw, Miles has a crush on Gwen lol

ATSV: Gwen is stupidly in love with this dude, is followed by his image a year after meeting him, carries pieces of him with her like jewelry, would gladly risk breaking the universe just to spend one afternoon with him, aches at not being able to hold his hand, can only believe in the impossible because of him—

I WANT TO SCREAM. FINALLY GOT ITSV ARTBOOK AND I JUST DYING FROM HOW GORGEOUS IT IS.

I can't stop flipping through pages and just adore every word and artwork in it 😭❤️‍🔥

I came here to just post some lines about Gwen because IT'S JUST SO GOOD. I love her so much.

JUST LOOK AT IT. «Nobody is cooler than Spider-Gwen. She is such a bad-ass.» 😭 i adore the creative minds behind this show.

I just so so happy that I'm living in the universe when Spider-Verse exists it's so awesome 🙏❤️‍🔥

Many people talking about the things that Gwen had to go through and so on, but Miles literally became the most tragic character in the entire saga at the end of ATSV to the point that he can even have a corruption arc in BTSV, all while he tried to be chill and positive so as not to get bitter just because yes.

Not only is there everything that he had to go through in ITSV (Horrible things and feelings that accumulated and that yes or yes they are going to explode in BTSV and they are going to blame their friends), but he had a lonely life for a year and a half, with anxieties and panic attacks, wanting to dedicate his entire future to seeing his friends again, only to feel stabbed in the back by them and feeling painfully betrayed.

And I really can't imagine what Miles's head is like inside after ATSV and in BTSV, the amount of traumas (Some that come from ITSV) and serious psychological problems he's going to have because of his friends that he didn't even care about when they met him except for Gwen. If you think about it, this trilogy is the story of a wonderful boy, who has no malice whatsoever, who never did anything wrong, who never hurt anyone, and even so, he ended up completely broken by things that He was getting out of hand and now he has no problem seeing his friends as his enemies and confronting them.

And as if that weren't tragic enough, after that, literally his entire WORLD, the thing that gave his life SENSE, collapsed, fell apart, in just a few minutes because of a lunatic who doesn't want anyone in the multiverse is happy just because he couldn't be.

gwen stacy as gwen stacy, but miles as andrew garfield⁉️

It can't be that Gwen has already done most of the facets of an average gf/wife without being Miles' gf/wife yet lmao:

In love

Proud for your man

Sad puppy

Jealousy

Getting mad

Calm and asking for forgiveness

😏

It's interesting but let's keep in mind that the phrase "Death loves Gwen Stacy doesn't exist in the movies due to the fact that they completely replaced that phrase with "In every other universe Gwen Stacy falls for Spider-Man and that doesn't end well", implying that they separate and/or take different paths (Examples: Spectacular, Raimi saga, 90's series, etc. ) and in very specific cases Gwen dies (Like in TASM2), besides, we are talking about a different Spider-Gwen than the comic versión and that comics phrase it is something too heavy for a movie which isn't for adults like it's in the comics most of the time.

Still, it is highly unlikely that Gwen was affected by seeing multiple Peters in Spider-Society since she wasn't affected at all knowing Peter B in the first film. The canon event that appears there is likely to have been the case, but until now the name "Ghost Spider" has never been used or made a single reference. So, in the Spider-Verse movies, Gwen's canon hero name is "Spider-Woman", for now.

I honestly think Gwen Stacy has one of the coolest spider names, being ghost spider because it has so much meaning behind it in both the comics and the movie. Even though she hasn't been called ghost spider yet in the movies.

Something that is said a lot in the comics is that "death loves Gwen Stacy" because in most universes she is dead or loses everything. This also appears to be true in spider verse. The reason I love the name ghost spider is because it was her embracing that, a way of honoring the other gwens who's graves she visits, because to most other peters she is a ghost to them. Imagine her showing up to the spider society and seeing hundreds of people with your dead best friends face, only to realize that dispite him being the ghost back home it is really you who's the ghost it's you who was dead in most other universes.

Another really cool thing that also adds to the ghost spider names actually was shown in spider verse, when looking at the Canon events every one is looking at something different, Peter B looking at his wedding, Hobie looking at himself giving up on being spiderman, Jess looking at her freeing herself from the ruble, but gwens was different, the Canon event shown for Gwen was kravens last hunt.

The image shown is a picture from the kravens last hunt redrawn from the comics from Gwen instead of Peter because this hasn't happened in gwens comics. In kravens last hunt kraven shoots and burys spiderman, they were buried for 2 weeks before digging themselves out of their grave. The image is of Gwen digging herself out of her grave and since it's the same suit from the first movie it means it's already happened. I think it's kinda symbolic that she digs herself from her grave, given the theme of the spider verse movies is changing your fate. Gwen being afraid to fall in love because she knows she will die if she does, they could change it together proving Canon events wrong.

I really don't understand why it's said that she literally doesn't know how to communicate with people, because until now I've only seen the opposite among her friends. In fact, Gwen is one of those people who, the more trust they have towards the other person, the more open they are, it's not something weird and it's something very different from "Not knowing how to interact with anyone"

Besides, "Losing the sanity" is not the appropriate term to refer to her situation either in the prologue or when she was kicked out of the Spider-Society, another VERY different thing is that she has been desperate, that she does not know what to do, nor anyone to go to, because if she had really "almost lost her sanity" she would have gone totally crazy until she sank into dementia, something she was never even close to being in that situation, in fact, the only two characters who were really on the verge of losing his sanity were Miguel and, of course, Miles, who with the short "The Spider Within" we saw how really broken he was inside, and even worse after ATSV.

gwen is so funny as a character. we saw her as such a Cool Teenage Girl in the first movie. she figured out so young how to be spiderwoman, beat bullies at school to protect her friend, is a punk, a drummer in a band, does ballet and adds the grace of her movements to her swinging and fight style, makes her own clothes and changes her hair every month, etc etc.

all that only for us to find out the most important thing about her character is she's a LOSER despite all that. she can't make friends except for peter, can't communicate with people properly, makes a fool of herself in front of her crush's parents, makes terrible decisions under pressure and tries to avoid conflict until she's on the verge of losing sanity.

and ykw? that's exactly why i adore her character so much. fake girlfailure lovers when real girlfailures (gwen stacy) come at them: oh no why would this traumatized homeless & alienated teenager do this....kill it with fire

They basically spent a lot of time together in the bus scene and things happened that were never seen in the final cut, but said things did happen and they're there.

Why aren't we acknowledging all these convos Gwen and Miles had off screen that were confirmed??? He told her so much about his parents, she told him what happened between her and her dad. And that's just the confirmed ones??? They already share so much screen time together and yet we still don't know all of those moments that are just between him and her and not even we get to see it??? Oh my God!!!

And my favourite one: What was happening on that short trip when they took that selfie off screen in ITSV???? They clearly had so much fun together 😭

The writers said "it's between them and God it's none of your business" and I live for that.

There's no way that those parallels were not made on purpose, for some reason all the comparisons between Spider-Man being Sonic The Hedgehog and E-42 Prowler being Shadow The Hedgehog had A LOT of impact on the internet, leaving any other nonsense comparison with the SEGA characters completely forgotten.

If SEGA and Spider-Man or Marvel do a future collaboration, there's literally a 99% chance that Miles will be Sonic and Miles G. will be Shadow, thanks to all the fanarts and comparisons that were made between them.

And that's not to mention the number of comparisons between Ghostflower and Sonamy, which are many.

ProwlerMiles and SpiderMiles have the same energy as Sonic and Shadow the Hedgehog YOU ALL KNOW THAT IM RIGHT