Just Read Your Lecture Notes. Such A Sad Topic. It's So Sad To Think About.

Just read your lecture notes. Such a sad topic. It's so sad to think about.

Also reminds me of when Liam was sexually harassing that airline stewardess and Noel was like "can't be sexual harassment. he does that to me all the time."

Especially since I sometimes think that the boys may have experienced some sexual abuse from adult males in their life....

Yeah, it is a really sad topic and while in a way i‘m super excited to learn more and draw more parallels, i‘m also really scared of what it makes me think. Cause just like you, I think that Noel and Liam experienced SA, there‘s just too many strange quotes. Like the one Liam quote where he says: „men and religion broke me“, the constant back and forth and contradicting info on weither or not Liam got hurt too („he never touched Liam“ and „Noel got it the worst“ and „My father especially hurt me a lot“ are all very, very different things). We also have Noel downplaying all the abuse he suffered and trying to normalize it („It was a different time, others had it worse“) and and and.

I hope I‘m wrong but also coming from personal experience with the topic it would explain a lot. I’ve actually had a draft about the stuff in their life that makes me believe they suffered some sort of SA for ageeees and am too afraid to post it cause i don‘t know what other people‘s opinions on this are, and because it is a very dark and sensitiv topic overall. But I mean, now I‘m posting about it too, so…

I didn‘t actually know that Noel quote about Liam „doing that to him all the time“! But oh wow. Classic Noel behaviour we‘ve got here. I find it so interesting how Noel on the one hand seems to be much more careful than Liam when it comes to their relationship (He lied multiple times trying to make their relationship sound worse or less close on the Matt Morgan podcast … like when he lied about never having given Liam birthday presents - And is also just not on twitter calling Liam stuff like GOD, you know), but on the other hand he seems to always want to show off how twisted their relationship is?? I‘m not sure how to explain it but he said lots of things that don‘t particularly make him and Liam seem normal. Like all the „mindgames“/„I play him like a slightly used card deck“ stuff he said about himself, and the „Liam is obsessed and in love with me“-narrative for Liam, where your quote fits in perfectly.

Thanks anon for sharing your thoughts and that quote xxx