Since people were asking for my notes from the "Attachment and Boundary Collapse in Sibling Incest"-Seminar that I can NOT believe i'm actually taking this semester (Am I in Gallaghercest school???), here are some of my notes from the first two weeks. There's more, it just takes ages to translate it, but if anyone is interested I can post more.
Feel like I also need to point out some parts that absolutely wrecked me, because they feel so Noel and Liam coded to me. Here you go:
-Not always inltiated by one clearly dominant party - this complicates blame but not harm.
-Initiating sibling may turn into safe place for the victim, groomed mentality. Grooming can occur subconsciously influenced by learned behaviour, modelling abuse.
-Survivors often report a deep shame and the need to repress it - not address it. Extremely vague choice of words when talking about their childhood experiences.
-Most come to terms with it but don't seek justice, feeling shame or the need to protect their sibling.
-Childhood incest -> Adult incest where both parties now consent - who decides where manipulation and grooming begins and ends? The phenomenon of "getting used to it" and "growing to like it".
-He really loves her but thinks this is the way you show love. She really loves him so she doesn't fight it.
-Sister never stops seeing her brother as her safe person because he was her first admirer. (little note: this killed me. I'm sobbing and shaking)
-Brother may later express awareness that it was wrong and try to keep his distance to his sister. She misses him but thrives in her personal life for the first time.
-If incest is the only consistent form of closeness or attention it may become scripted into their relational behaviour.
-Impact on Attachment Styles:
-Older Sibling: Risk of emotional isolation, "walls up", torn between wanting closeness and not trusting himself or others.
-Younger sibling: Struggles with commitment, trust and boundaries, may carry ambivalent feelings torwards their sibling (loyalty and love and betrayal and anger).
If this has grammar or spelling mistakes I'm sorry, oops. That's it for now (*≧▽≦) We're writing the academic, psychological gcest bible, just wait until I have to write an essay at the end of the semester... lol.
I want to make a really weird personality quiz that tells you if you've got Liam or Noel energy, but instead of basic stuff like “do you prefer cats or dogs” or “what’s your favourite instrument" the questions would be more like:
Would you rather be devoured by your own creation or starve worshipping someone else's? Would you rather be the knife or the hand that holds it? Do you trust the echo more than the original sound? Is nostalgia a form of devotion or decay?
You know. That kind of vibe.
Who wants it?
"If I had any advice for Liam? Just don't give up. Don't give up."
[x] (linked to me by Anon, thank you <3)
gifset and related info before this surfaced
incredible. absolutely no notes for earthdayposting ringo
It's adorable to me how noel is leaning all the way to the side 💕
emo girl
i want liam to start telling noel haters to kill themselves on twitter it would be so funny
Noel sucking Liam’s cock in the studio because Liam wasn’t focusing
Only correct way to deal with that situation. And knowing Liam that's happened quite a lot. I'm thinking nowadays, reunion tour rehearsals. Liam's still sooo enchanted by Noel, like... woah, I've got him back, I've really got him back!!! Probably staring at Noel forgetting his lines and stuff, clearly with a hard on too. Embarassed but... what can you do - Noel knows anyways. Not getting anything done, Noel would pretend to be annoyed and secretly love it.
"Hello? Do your job. What the fuck is it now?" - "Nothing. Just need a shower." - "For fuck's sake we don't have time for you to shower. You’re worse than my annoying teenage sons, d'you know that? Are you actually like 14 fucking years old? Come here I'll sort it. Jesus christ," and Liam walking over to him right away, all relieved cause he needs it so bad
i love this jacket :3333
the first 4 photos from twitter