fuck yes phil is not treating sunny with the same sweet and caring tone as he does tallulah and chayanne. that isnt his fucking kid! he has never talked to the eggs that are not his with the same tone he uses for his kids!!
he will talk shit to dapper! he will joke around with ramon! he plays around and is a shithead around richas, leo and pomme!!
he cares and would protect all of them with no hesitation, but he does not put on kiddy gloves to interact with them, he never fucking has!
i get it, yall care for sunny, yall love them, she's your baby. whatever whatever. not everyone has to see or act towards them like you want them to!!!!!
every islander has their own ways to interact with the eggs (bbh babies them all, foolish talks to them like they are any other playe, even punshing them to play around, fit treats them all with care but respect too), and with phil he has ALWAYS been bluntly honest and direct with ALL of them, making jokes at the expense of their loved ones and talking shit about their parents (for whom he cares deeply also).
all the while, he has also been one of the main people who would jump to action to defend and protect the eggs when needed. he has in the past left alone with multiple kids and been attacked and none of the kids died! he makes sure no egg is left alone ever when adventuring dungeons!! and now, he actively leaves stacks of the cookie quest items right in the bakery so people can finish quest quickly if needed. he has even stated to multiple people "if you need cookies, message me, i will log on and give them to you" THAT'S how he shows his care to those who arent his kids!
if he didnt like sunny OR tubbo, for the matter, he wouldnt go up to him and ask him what he needs, how many cookies away he is from a full bar, he wouldnt throw the items at him so he can finish quickly.
get over yourselves!!!! :)
in this specific case, i really need to everyone who is watching from tubbo's pov saying phil needs to stop acting how he's been acting towards sunny and tubbo or whatever, and think for a second. like actually think.
has philza been given any response from tubbo or sunny that anything he's doing has been hurting them? like. has he been told "hey stop with these comments, they are not cool"?
the answer is yes, with the fred comment, and what did he do? he was MORTIFIED, explained he didnt know and it has not happened again!!! wow, amazing, it's almost like that's how grown-up relationships work /lh
in this case tho, sunny is a kid. confronted by an adult who she finds scary and who has been hurt by comments the person has done about them. and they told her parent. and that parent has done fuck-all to let this other adult about this, or that their attitude should change at all.
like. hell, tubbo is sunny's parent AND phil's friend, so if he doesnt want to stop interacting with phil cause she's scared of him, it would literally take him nothing to take him to the side and explain what's going on, to leave him a book near his house. hell, it takes nothing to type "/tell Ph1lza hey, the comments that you did about my kid made them a little uncomfortable, maybe tone it down?".
instead he just reassures sunny it's all good, and keeps going to hang out with phil without telling him. and thus phil will continue with the same attitude he's always had. and nothing will change. because yeah: he doesnt know shit about sunny, doesnt know sunny.
and the person who does know them -and is responsible for them- should step up and smothe things out. because it IS tubbo's responsability as sunny's caretaker to do this type of shit.
tubbo is the adult with the knowledge in this case. HE has to take the steps to make something better for HIS kid.
ok now im done.
Basically the sunny and phil thing boils down to qphil meant no harm but the way he went about trying to reassure sunny was simply terrible. He made a M I S T A K E he didnt intentionally harm her.
He wanted sunny yo feel that it wasnt her fault that talulah disliked her however saying that talulah always feels sad and lonely because wilbur is gone is not a good way. Rather than coming across as "dont feel bad its not your fault" it comes across as "you shouldnt feel bad becuase talulah has it worse" which just invalidates sunnys feelings
talulah can not trust the new eggs and sunny can also be upset by it.
i hope that they can discuss it with qphil and that he acknowledges the msitake and apologises
its great drama
I personally love cc!Phil's approach to lore.
When it's for Chay or Lula, he's completely serious, looking after them and helping them through their trauma and insecurities.
For everyone else's lore, he'll be serious for them and gently make fun when it's appropriate.
BUT WHEN IT'S HIS LORE, he'll say some shit that he KNOWS will make the chat cry, then he'll mute the qsmp mic and laugh so hard that he dissappears from frame!!
Btw I'm very biased towards Q!Phil, if you couldn't tell
Sunny has every right to feel the way she does, but that's not Phil's fault. He didn't do anything wrong, and anyone saying Q!Phil is 'beefing with a kid' doesn't watch Phil's pov
Also Q!Phil won't know that Sunny is afraid of him unless he's told, so, again, not his fault ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
well idk about yall but i, for one, i am OVERJOYED sunny finds phil scary!
because yeah! children find adults scary all the time, especially adults who seems myseterious and put together. and also no fucking shit is my man fucking scary! the first time sunny EVER saw him was him waking up on the ship and getting to the island, so who knows what kinda aura that shows to a kid.
second of all, you have this guy who cassually talks about horrible things that have happened in the past, who makes no double take at the mention of suffering or death. this guy who lives in the top of a wall that if you fall of you WILL die, and he does so casually, while building on the edge of the same precipiece.
this guy who everyone tells you is so nice, and his kids are sweet and amazing, but the moment that you see them, one of those kids is looking you with distrust in their eyes, and wont approach you much. did they leran that from him? surely they did. every other kid has loved you so far, why wouldnt this kid like you too?
actually every other adult you've met has loved you and talked you with adoration, and bend themselves backwards to you asks, and then there's this guy who, TO YOU, is not folding his every self to your wishes like every other adult is -in fact he made YOU try to fold with offers of things you like instead.
and then aat the same time this guy literally turns to you, and talks and jokes with you like you're the same age as your parent, in the same tone.
that shit is fucking terrifying.
fuck yes phil is not treating sunny with the same sweet and caring tone as he does tallulah and chayanne. that isnt his fucking kid! he has never talked to the eggs that are not his with the same tone he uses for his kids!!
he will talk shit to dapper! he will joke around with ramon! he plays around and is a shithead around richas, leo and pomme!!
he cares and would protect all of them with no hesitation, but he does not put on kiddy gloves to interact with them, he never fucking has!
i get it, yall care for sunny, yall love them, she's your baby. whatever whatever. not everyone has to see or act towards them like you want them to!!!!!
every islander has their own ways to interact with the eggs (bbh babies them all, foolish talks to them like they are any other playe, even punshing them to play around, fit treats them all with care but respect too), and with phil he has ALWAYS been bluntly honest and direct with ALL of them, making jokes at the expense of their loved ones and talking shit about their parents (for whom he cares deeply also).
all the while, he has also been one of the main people who would jump to action to defend and protect the eggs when needed. he has in the past left alone with multiple kids and been attacked and none of the kids died! he makes sure no egg is left alone ever when adventuring dungeons!! and now, he actively leaves stacks of the cookie quest items right in the bakery so people can finish quest quickly if needed. he has even stated to multiple people "if you need cookies, message me, i will log on and give them to you" THAT'S how he shows his care to those who arent his kids!
if he didnt like sunny OR tubbo, for the matter, he wouldnt go up to him and ask him what he needs, how many cookies away he is from a full bar, he wouldnt throw the items at him so he can finish quickly.
get over yourselves!!!! :)
I'm still reeling over q!Philza trusting q!Foolish enough to show him his wings. Tubbo and Fit were not too surprising - they not only saw him use his wings while escaping Purgatory, but they are all very close friends that he trusts and respects. But Foolish really surprised me, in a good way. Because before Purgatory, I don't think the thought would've ever crossed his mind. He didn't know Foolish well, after all, and really saw no reason to trust him. They barely interacted whatsoever.
But then they got teamed up in Purgatory. And after all they went through together in Pugatory, Phil is willing to reveal a vulnerable part of himself to him! He got the chance to bond with Foolish and got to know him a whole lot better. And in turn, Foolish has gained a huge amount of open respect for Philza. The aftermath of Purgatory is going to persist, because there's so many bonds that were made during that time, bonds that will greatly effect the story going forward. We're already seeing that, and I love it.
Plus, Phil's newfound trust can very likely be said for the remaining Bolas members. With the bond of this group, his circle of trust has expanded quite a bit, if we're to believe that he trusts every member of Bolas (or at least the original members i.e. I dunno how much he might trust, say, q!Ironmouse; no offense to her, though it'd be nice!). And considering this is 'paranoid, old hermit who hides away up on the wall' Philza we're talking about, that's some incredible growth on his part. Might be the steps he needs to take to be more vulnerable and open in general around others...
Still hoping he makes that Team Bolas building like he said he would, btw
/lh but I've seen a few people talking about the philza and foolish wings interaction and saying purgatory strengthened their bond and they both have a lot more respect for eachother. I'm not saying this is wrong in any way but I feel like people are forgetting how big of a philza fanboy foolish has already been through out their time on the island. he already HAD a lot of respect for phil, he nearly idolizes him. even though they're not online at the same time very often, foolish is always excited to see him and (iirc) has called him very wise and a god before. do yall remember how excited foolish was when phil built the hot girl beach bar? he couldn't believe he got to witness The philza minecraft build something in front of him. and even today after their conversation, he called phil "a delightful sensation as always"
tldr: pls consider foolishs fanboyness if you evaluate his and phils relationship :]
Someday I will see a world where Philzaās character isnāt immediately interpreted maliciously in the worst way possible when heās being blunt/ attempting to explain something and I will finally know peace.
Hoping and praying the way qPhil vaguely mentioned the Birdhouse and derealization to the kids yesterday wasn't implying that because the eggs are back, that subplot is over. There was no conclusion. Phil pls. Torment us and do it justice.
Tallulah and Chayanne noticed that Philza takes pictures of everyone but there are no pictures of him, so they started taking pictures of Philza and they are good and really cute:
However, all of their photos have Philza with his wings out and so there is Photographic Evidence of Crow Wings just chilling in his photo album.
I see no way this could end poorly /j
does anyone have the clip of Philza at Tubhaus getting run over by a train?
like the train just doesn't hurt him at all and everyone is just like
yeah, that's Philza Minecraft
I personally love cc!Phil's approach to lore.
When it's for Chay or Lula, he's completely serious, looking after them and helping them through their trauma and insecurities.
For everyone else's lore, he'll be serious for them and gently make fun when it's appropriate.
BUT WHEN IT'S HIS LORE, he'll say some shit that he KNOWS will make the chat cry, then he'll mute the qsmp mic and laugh so hard that he dissappears from frame!!
Phil showing off his wings to Foolish without question, without hesitation, when they finally reunite, going through the effort of taking off his backpack and letting them out to share them. Wearing the gas masks, a reminder that theyāre united, trustworthy, always on the same side. Something about how he did so when Foolish was showing his newly grown fins, like a hybrid to hybrid āhere are my traits. I trust you and want you to know thisā. Reassuring Tallulah that he trusts Foolish implicitly - they went through a lot together, after all.
the real reason bbh had phil take off his armor was so phil would be at a disadvantage when he inevitably tries to kill bad for forcing him to play find the button in 2023
"I was going through a weird time." Motherfucker, you were having moments of derealization.
some day in the future, i will talk about q!philza and comparmentalizing
how he keeps every little bad thing that has ever happened to him in the island (nightmare, code killing tallulah, birdhouse, purgatory) in separate boxes, all labeled and archived, but refuses to look at them unless incredibly necessary
some day.
Man one of the worst things about trying to find intresting takes on sunny and Tubbo is that i see some absolutly atrocious and not true takes about q!Phil and Tallulah?????
And you can see a take on Phil and just know that was not made by someone who watches him regulary lmao
Like can we forbid people from talking about streamers they don't know shit about? Please? pretty please?
I think a similar situation has been happening with q!BBh too
I saw somepeople say that this is normal but seeing some crazy ass mischaracterizations of my favorite characters is an expierence lmao, Tho honestly i do think people shouldn't make big analysis of characters if they only know them throught a difrent character, becouse in that way you can never truelly learn about a character, you don't know them, how they act and behave
It's especially true to q!Phil right now, with people who watch Tubbo say he doesn't like Sunny when most people who watch Phil a lot says he do indeed like her lmao
I saw so many arguments that just made zero sens to me, but oh well that's just how it is ig
Philza minecraft!!
Dadza going brrrrrr
needed 3 arms to block that yeah that's right
Lol I just love everyone sitting around discussing the legality and possible legal punishments for Sukunaās crimes. And theyāre like āWell he canāt be rehabilitatedā. 𤣠And Sukuna just sitting there in the courtroom at the end grinning. Either he has a solid defense worked out already (love the joke I saw a while back about him sending Mahoraga to law school) or he knows a loophole. Maybe he could say since heās no longer human, human laws donāt apply to him? Or hell maybe heās just excited to experience such a unique cursed technique first hand (he saw it before through Yuji so he knows how it works but this is different).
But honestly, when we all started this series, who among us imagined that, at this late stage in the story, we would get courtroom battle with Sukuna? Great stuff.
sukuna blocking one yuuji punch with his 3 handsš¤
I really want Chayanne and Tallulah to find out how Phil was when they were gone, about the Birdhouse and the subsequent birds appearing and him not being sure if he's dreaming.
I especially want to see Chayanne's reaction, to know that his strong warrior of a father was so scared and weak when he was gone. And I want Tallulah to know how much Phil cares.
I really want them all to comfort each other. Phil knows that Chayanne and Tallulah are not ok, they're scared and traumatized, obviously, and I'm pretty sure they know that Phil is not ok either, but he won't admit it.
I want to see him open up to his kids, and let himself be vulnerable, now that his children are safe.
I don't think the way Philza treats/treated Sunny was cruel, projecting nor judgey.
From his POV, Sunny was being a morally ambigious girlboss that's gonna rob you blind and call you poor while she's at it. (Philza VOD from 22. November 2023 at the 04:23:03 mark) (after going though Foolish's chests she placed a sign down with "kinda trash" written on it, refering to Foolish's stuff. After that, "no good stuff" and "POORRRRRR", probably egged on by Philza laughing.)
He's now teasing her about that.
(Compare it to the way he teases Richas about never bathing. It's funny and Richas is proud of his anti-bathing stance. Phil has called him smelly and stinky and other stuff. They're on good terms.)
(He also teased Tallulah about stealing flowers in the latest vod for example, he does this all the time and people do it to him, too.)
He's not bringing it up as something Sunny should feel bad about. Philza has no reason to believe that Sunny will feel bad about him bringing that up. Whilst robbing Foolish, Sunny seemed sassy and confident.
Just like non-bathing, stealing is something you're not supposed to do, but Philza isn't bringing those things up in a "I disapprove of you breaking those social mores" - way. He is bringing them up in a "It's funny that you're breaking those social mores" - way.
Sunny is of course valid for feeling hurt for Philza teasing her about something she feels insecure about. But it's up to her or Tubbo to communicate that to him. Otherwise he can't know.
btw it's so funny to remember someone legitimately said yesterday that "phil is RP-ing a much more morally gray character than ever before" and im just here like ????? ARE U NEW HERE???
things Antartic Empire Phil did:
take over the entire world with a friend because ?? why not
useless villager outpost genocide because it would be funny
airstriked people (even allies) because, again, it would be funny
things DSMP phil did:
killed his actual son
destroyed an entire nation to the GROUND and laughed
constantly showed no care for anyone but the people he trusted (which he could count in ONE hand)
but yeah no, the guy who wants to do anything to protect his kids, the one who is constatnly helpful to other parents/islanders to the point he's held as a leader of the community even without him knowing, and the one whose apparently worst trait is that he shits on tubbo a lot (which tubbo does right back) and apparently hurt sunny with something he said (which like. yeah, adults say shit that hurt kids without meaning to all the time lmao).
for sure it's the guy that has been psychologically tortured, had his family taken away from him and was punished for trying to get answers and STILL holds on to his empathy and humanity, even when he's quite literally doubting what's real and what's not? that's for sure the most fucked up and morally gray version of his character that phil has ever played, obviously /s
Saw so many people said qPhil and qTubbo's relationship is uneven. I understand it may be in qTubbo POV affected the reflect on how you see the relationship. But I can assure you qPhil have a ungodly amount of trust for qTubbo cuz that man is so paranoid if he allowed you to take care of Chayanne and Tallulah alone then you good mate.
I literally can count on one hand how many people he ever lets his kid stay with.
#1 qBBH
QBhh is one of the top choice cuz his wealth and paranoid level.
#2 Forever
QPhil trusted him so much that his anarchy side was pushed aside to vote for qForever in the president arc.
#3 Cellbit
QPhil knows if anyone figures out what they are doing that is qCellbit so he is comfortable to let's the kid stay at qCellbit place when he is away.
This is the list people qPhil quote on quote allow the kid to stay over.
Three people. THREE FUCKING PEOPLE.
So when qPhil lets qTubbo be the primary caretaker for his kids especially when qTubbo just enters the server it takes a huge amount of trust from that man. He believes in qTubbo skills and dedication in grinding to be more than capable of looking after TWO eggs at once.
So again plsssssss, believe me when I say the relationship between qPhil and qTubbo are not one sided like you thought to be.
I don't think the way Philza treats/treated Sunny was cruel, projecting nor judgey.
From his POV, Sunny was being a morally ambigious girlboss that's gonna rob you blind and call you poor while she's at it. (Philza VOD from 22. November 2023 at the 04:23:03 mark) (after going though Foolish's chests she placed a sign down with "kinda trash" written on it, refering to Foolish's stuff. After that, "no good stuff" and "POORRRRRR", probably egged on by Philza laughing.)
He's now teasing her about that.
(Compare it to the way he teases Richas about never bathing. It's funny and Richas is proud of his anti-bathing stance. Phil has called him smelly and stinky and other stuff. They're on good terms.)
(He also teased Tallulah about stealing flowers in the latest vod for example, he does this all the time and people do it to him, too.)
He's not bringing it up as something Sunny should feel bad about. Philza has no reason to believe that Sunny will feel bad about him bringing that up. Whilst robbing Foolish, Sunny seemed sassy and confident.
Just like non-bathing, stealing is something you're not supposed to do, but Philza isn't bringing those things up in a "I disapprove of you breaking those social mores" - way. He is bringing them up in a "It's funny that you're breaking those social mores" - way.
Sunny is of course valid for feeling hurt for Philza teasing her about something she feels insecure about. But it's up to her or Tubbo to communicate that to him. Otherwise he can't know.
HE'S SO. He's telling Chayanne there's never any reason to feel guilt about making the decision he thought woulda saved the most people he could've.
He's so. This is why he could stomach being a leader in the end, cause he can make the fuckin hard call, and he'll deal with making the wrong ones cause he made the best desicion he coulda.
i have the urge to write a whole essay on how phil reassuring chayanne he made the right choice and not to duel on it partially comes from the fact that. he took the same choice as him. when he says to chayanne "you did exactly what i would have done" it's because he DID IT
when he left to the bird house
like. he got a book telling him "come alone, leave everything behind, dont tell anyone and MAYBE you'll get your kids" ,and he hesitated for a minute before following it to the letter.
he did it, and to him it brough SO MUCH BAD. he still is confused about what is real and what isnt TO THIS DAY because of it. but he has to let his kid know that no: that was the right choice. and he cant stay on the past thinking of "what if"s
all the while, he keeps denying what HE went through.
it's just insane.