kpop fans and morality is an interesting combo. People actively s*xualize people who at times debut looking legitimately 14, act younger than they really are, yet fans will say the most dehumanizing things, read horror stories about them on ao3 yet still with they dense selves can't look from above the situation and realize wait maybe they are into stuff that WE the fans find weird because THEY the artists have been misused and dehumanized and relate to stories of mistreated young people. People wanna be the victim so bad. So sorry but stans are not on the right side of history no matter how you flip it. I've seen those weird fancalls, kdolls are treated like actual dolls, them being grown isn't even a thought on the fans mind unless its for their entertainment. Yes most likely they find solace in twisted things that match their twisted lives. The big tell is throwing bad 'idols' away then holding the other good well behaving idols close, like thats a human being shouldn't of been worshipping a person anyway. Asking any grown person to act 5 and shimmy shimmy/ do fanservice when they grew up looking up to pop stars thinking they too were gonna be well respected by their fans is probably giving many idols psychological breakdowns. Not surprised one bit if many watch disturbing content its very common with people who had their childhoods taken away. Sadly kpop fans have such a big head because the companies act like they can't do any wrong. I think some like being angry just so the idol can do some big apology its at least some type of feeling they have control over the idol. Its cool to drop people but its the underlying superficial reasoning behind it. Defending a grown person is a waste they can stand on their own two feet but its the bigger issue I'm worried about. Like the irony of wanting to protect young people but supporting kpop
I'm sorry but no the idea people can have big moral guns concerning art(never seen the show but I'd be shocked if its worse than the 1st season of berserk) but not with kpop companies and idols telling you they using kids and working them til they ready to pass out..but thats okay..telling you they train young idols to seduce noonas and oppas..and thats okay its simply seen as a cultural difference. When idols cry about missing their families and falling behind in life +not having kids whenever they initially said they would but to the public that's cool cause at least they are successful. The sm basement jokes are plentiful..kids in basements sweating, not eating and being taught how to be romantic with other young people for fans so they'll buy they future albums...this is seen as okay as well....but they should not relate to art about misused young people ...uhm no life don't work like that sorry. Same reason why kids in america relate to hunger games they don't like totalitarian government and survival of the fittest THEY ARE LIVING IT GENIUS!
its sad how nothing was known about him for years and ppl just were able to craft their own narrative. I remember when people thought he was classy bougie and intelligent for years and then before he left he posted a video of him crip walking to a young thug song in the middle of the street and he said it was okay cause nobody was around. When fans thought he was a romantic sweet respectable young lad in reality, Bizzle B was his idol.
kai using justin bieberâs song to express his feelings
this would of been a nice alternative stylizing for peaches, yes the tibetan swag was cool
but if they mixed a 1980s cowboy beebop type of thing
, to me it would of been a better sequel to his first album. Also I'm just realizing why didn't they have the ninja wear be black black? The outfit for choom, actually looked better. Why gray? See it's the little things.
It all looked good, but it just wasn't cohesive. Mhmm was cohesive sci fi fantasy fifth element exotic space whoredom vibes which I do like.
(lady gaga+michael jackson+prince)
like yes, but why start with the apocalypse. But otherwise that was A+.
Peaches I can't say what it was, princely greek alien messiah ....egypt something? Like no, like yes don't get me wrong, but no in how it was done. Because the teasers went HEAVY on the greek, but in the mv they are in old timey Korea/china/tibet--and then they are in a castle in egypt per his own words..but the architecture is clearly Mesopotamian. Poor thing was confused.
I feel for the team they just don't know what to do. They had ten years to get it right and they just tried to fit everything in one mv. I think Peaches would of been better as a third album or a fourth. They needed a bit more build up to make this make sense.
The ideal could of been split up into two albums part one and two one focusing on western and another on eastern religion. I know the point was to be a fusion, but the end goal isn't concise. The concept of the album is basically like a greek myth star crossed lover, but that isn't a real concept in the other religions. Also he was portraying narcissus who only loves himself and nobody else, but the forbidden fruit is a metaphor for humanity falling due to lustful temptation. It's like those are things that need to be dealt with separately and then fused together. On one hand it could be a self love journey, but then on another he's portraying a messiah figure, yet he is also the bad guy and doesn't care about anything...
and when asked about it he just said soft peach or hard peach and then did a tik tok with the grinch that stole childhoods...
but in the end nobody really cares like yes it was cute but there were so many literary, historical, and religious references but the reactions was just
sigh I'm so embarrassed of this generation.
fin.
Exactly, why are women caring what any biomale movement is talking about when other movements exist without caring anything about female issues at all? It's very sad and indicative needing some type of male validation to feel a certain way.
Women on TikTok are talking about 4B but refuse to read the SCUM manifesto because itâs âtransphobicâ and âradical feminism isnât nothing without our trans sisters!â
Yeah, that 4B isnât gonna work for you honey. Canât even read a book. Canât stop pandering to males because you donât want to hurt their feelings. Mission already failed..
I'm patiently waiting for the day sean lew does his big one and finally choreographs for sm and saves the company from mediocrity cause southern hip hop does not go like how they've been doing it or teaching it.
Back in the day they used to have a good medium of american choreographers to assist the trainee's and idols and clean up their faults now it's like they don't' have that and it's soo evident.
I don't care the minute they got rid of that bald british or american dude they companies dancing went down hill. It became a weird oligarchy. Like I noticed kai's main teacher started recommending people he trained and they eventually ended up replacing most of the western choreographers. They brought in bailey sok
for peaches, the asian american southern swag hip hop extraordinaire that she is and it was way better than Mmmh.
It actually had so many different elements in it, but most don't really focus on the dancing. But for rover they settled on bada lee
who is mainly a krump battle dancer, it lacked authenticity. Not to get all so you think you can dance, but Jongin cannot do that and at sm they make no effort to really teach everyone learns on their own and they aren't really pushed to be at a certain standard.
Kasper and all those other choreographers and that studio they get most of the dancers from have a very specific skill sets.
They've been with sm for quite some time and I get that, loyalty but like the art world don't work like that they're gonna get left behind.
they got clout about 2013 from america's best dance crew made it to the quarter finals cool. We back to Korea with prestige
Did the olympics alongside exo.
I get sm always wants people with lots of prestige and clout but they tend to keep the same people for so long the creative image of sm gets stifled and left behind, now sm is desperately trying all the trends and fads to get their artists relevant to the youth again. Like it's a little late they should have been letting young creative directors in.
I don't care I'm always gonna advocate for new and upcoming artist with lots of passion. They make the world turn, they start the trends, they bring the most energy with their ideas.
Ignoring the performative style an artist specializes in and getting choreographers that make lite hood tik tok mashup dances is ruining the game. But if one must do it I think letting the western choreographers they bring in for ideas have some real creative freedom. It typically never fails I feel like they bring in these choreographers for a blueprint then let a korean choreographer twist it up a little bit so they never have to really give somebody credit. They never say western names hardly if ever only thank you team who contributed to the success but the korean choreographers get to show their face, do interviews, and idols basically have them as a part of the crew.
Like they are NOT slick. At all. I know the western choreographers get inspo from southern hip hop but at least they are transparent. They'll say this is inspired by this dance, two step, crank that, etc but it never is even a topic of discussion. Only full credit going to the k choreographers and yeah yeah some other people helped...like people forget why exo's choreo was so on point when they started
I really don't wanna make it seem like it's just black creators they try to shelve and ignore it's basically anyone non korean.
Tony Testa I remember him from back in the day but when I wanted to search him up to my surprise nobody really talked about him and the only choreographer people talk about training Kai is mainly Mihawk and Kasper...which is somewhat true.
Cause they're choreo is...like it's okay.. but Kai himself went into how Mihawk trained Exo and it was basically sm style, yelling, you're terrible, quit now, emotional abuse... wow you're famous I love you let's take pictures.. I don't care they gaslight them kids idc idc idc. Now that's trauma bonding.
But then there's the actual full truth that they and many other sm performers who have been praised for their dances around that time, were in fact trained by a real deal professional at one point, one of their staple choreographers was Tony Testa and he choreographed for Britney Spears(circus) and Michael Jackson(Testa was hired by director Kenny Ortega as an associate choreographer for Michael Jackson's final tour This Is It which obviously never got to happen but still)
This was dance on sunset? I think?
and suddenly the quality makes all the sense in the world
But again try and find it without knowing about it before hand you'd be like yeah no they never really had any western choreographers. There's no history books in Kpop if you were there you remember but if you weren't woops doesn't exist.
except it does.
Anyway too many people have this weird odd narrative Mihawk did it all and thank God for him like....how? He's just one of the only one's still there. Everybody else left cause Korea is trash to artists and creatives.
Like Kai cannot do that hood stuff, he wasn't trained for that at all. Now if sm invested more in there artists fine blame him but everybody knows these kids would dance in that basement for hours by themselves cause be honest they probably paid the teachers for a certain amount of time and then it's all on the kids. They absorb as much as they can but then it's up to them. He couldn't just learn such an advanced style like krumping from watching, you either grow up in the culture or you learn from someone who grew up in the culture. This is why you can't expect these Korean teachers to teach krumping. They know it but only cause they most likely learned from someone close to the source, it's not just something that can spread so easily.
sm has always like historically done this like it's just something they do they will never stop taking these itsy bitsy pieces of black culture and recycling it they can't help it. They've worked with tons of black artist to make the actual music and tend to get some western or black influenced people to try and create some type of instant quick success. But it's so subtle one could say it's not related at all.
I would say its a coincidence but knowing who trained shotaro like uhm no it's not,
Sm knows exactly what company trained Shotaro and they are known to specialize in krumping and hip hop. The little time he spent at sm most likely taught him barely anything he was already trained when they got him. They fib so much and never let their artists go into detail. He trained for years with a company that trains people in the top boy groups in japan.
EXPG is a studio connected with the iconic Japanese boy group exile tribe where most of their members train.
I just get tired of people saying 'studio from japan or studio in america' like if it was Korean people would give the entire name...like what's wrong with giving people credit who deserve it.
They typically sometimes get sent to new york for 2 years I think? But that was in the old days it may be different now. This is because the japanese always understood if you want your artist to do black music they should not just sing black music but be under the cultural american influence in some sort of way.
I don't know what they aren't getting, Kai isn't perfect at every style. They just don't plan on ever investing any more money into him or really any of their artists.
He was more in his comfort zone at the beginning of exo with a heavy emphasis on jazz and contemporary style dance.
If there isn't jazz or contemporary at least in the basis of the dance that's where Kai starts to falter. Broadway theater style is what he's most comfortable in. But because of appearance they push urban dance on him.
They didn't even try with bomba
Rover was a soul crushing mix between crank that soulja boi and the macarena.
I was watching the video like nooo that's every viral black/ethnic dance in one and I already knew that tagged choreographer was korean. I wanna analyze rover later but I might get upset it's pretty like a big major 106 in park style mv/music video and dance but like that fact just got
Everything he specializes in sm is like nah they also make anyone with sm have this weird loyalty to where the artist never get to express and cultivate themselves as a human. They are stuck in some sort of child/star hybrid.
I don't know why in the world they didn't send exo or at least super m to millenium they literally rented out the studio where so many talented dancers choreograph and just flew out they korean choreographer so ignorant. They were so stubborn with that group.
I feel like if they were trained by young vibrant artist close to their age they could of gotten so much inspiration. Freedom is really a virus and why would a kpop company want them to have freedom
Like hire the boy he just traveling around asia in his spare time making some of the best choreography of his career and they're like lalalala let's hire other people he's worked and trained with but not him. If anyone could actually help fill in the gaps with some of sm's main dancers I think he could.
Anyway I just feel definitely by 2025 either super m is gonna be somewhat active or sm will be out of business but I still think sean and kai should at least meet up once at a dance conference they become friends and post jazzy contemporary dances online with the occasional obligatory bff's cooking in the kitchen youtube channel, like so many of the peebles do now and days. They both do the same artsy triple threat yet auditioning to be a stay at home husband type of thing, cooking, yoga, self care. Like it can be good for the brand I swear. I just have a thing for artsy people with the same vibes clicking up. It's not so far fetched cause he already worked with Jackson. I just want the two balls of sunshine to meet
its been years Ive felt this way and this is so random but i hate robin and starfire together. In every universe they have too much in common and usually limit each others growth. Star would have been very interesting if she was allowed to have her own developed mythos but she's been spread around mainly Richard's mythology and thats kind of barf. Kinda glad she stayed in the drafts in young justice like she deserves way better. Mgann ccould of been the perfect villain for them but they turned her into a housewife basically I imagine they'd do something similar for Kori. A race of Melanated warrior cat people that love freely is literally art .She was one of the best characters in injustice basically a new age wonder wonder. DC could have done so much with her. Nd richard is cool I just think this writers also haven't branched him out properly. I LOVED TITANS dont get me wrong specifically the 1st 2 seasons but I feel like it either should of gave him a spinoff or something cause he is way too interesting to just be that guy in a dozen relationships because he has attachment issues. Love them but i do feel and always have felt the storyline between them limit them I always wondered when or if Kori could be with someone from her own planet the idea just never came up in canon besides her sister and maybe another sibling I don't believe she's ever been shown amongst her kind, but she instead has been routinely objectified but rarely for her own benefit or character arc just another arm candy for the bat boys. There is way more she can do.
Redemption - [DAY_966] The End of Evangelion.