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holding back the instinct to explode with a screaming half coherent rant about sans
So, I made a post about Severus Snape headcanons and in it, I mentioned:
- He can hold his drink, but always gets caught out by the potency of the punch at Christmas parties. - He’s slept with four members of staff. - There is a direct correlation between the last two points.
I was asked, several times…on anon and off, who the members of staff were - so I said I would write a fic. This, as you might have already gathered, is that fic. However, my regular followers may already have gathered that this fic is also this fic - which utterly refused to behave itself and be what I’d originally intended.
I’d intended that this story would be about an interpretation of Severus who was a little guarded, and the copious amounts of alcohol at the Christmas Party brought down his defenses…
This is not that Severus. This Severus had a very different story to tell. It also appears that his counting might be a little off. I hope you enjoy it nonetheless.
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Honestly, if Severus had had emotional maturity, he would have realized that Lily always minimized his harassment by the marauders, like "boys will be boys." If I were Snape, I would have cut off the friendship a long time ago. What would you do in Severus' position?
The problem with Severus and Lily's relationship is that it wasn’t built on equal footing. Lily made a friend, possibly like many others in her life, because she came from a structured family with a solid foundation in interpersonal relationships. Despite her issues with Petunia, we know her parents adored her and were thrilled to have a witch for a daughter, so we can assume her emotional role models were quite positive, which helped her build relationships at school and even become somewhat popular. For Severus, though, Lily wasn’t just a friend. Severus came from a poor and dysfunctional family, his father was abusive, and his mother didn’t seem to do much to protect her son from that abuse. His view of relationships and affection was already deeply distorted by the environment he grew up in. For him, being with Lily, playing with her, was a way to escape what was happening at home. It was a moment of peace, of stability, something he wasn’t familiar with. I genuinely believe he developed a very strong emotional dependency on her and her attention, because, from childhood, Lily represented everything good, everything that made him feel safe and important to someone.
Then adolescence hit, and they had very different interests and goals. I don’t hate Lily, but I do think she was a bit shallow. I mean, ending up with a rich, socially successful bully is pretty shallow. And it fits her character, because at the end of the day, she was a lower-middle-class girl in the Muggle world, and a Muggle-born in the magical world—she didn’t belong to any relevant social class in either. So, being pursued and courted by the most popular guy in her year, who was also super rich and from an important family, must have appealed to her. J.K. Rowling said in an interview, when someone mentioned that Lily supposedly hated James, that “Lily never hated James. You, as a woman (to the interviewer), should understand or know that.” She hinted that all the hatred towards James was an act and that she was actually attracted to him, which tells me a lot about Lily as a person and her values. I would never date a bully, whether or not they had attacked my friend. If I saw someone constantly abusing others at school, I wouldn’t date that person, but Lily did. And I don’t think it was because James made her believe he had changed, manipulated her, or any of the nonsense people say. I don’t think Lily was stupid. I think she knew exactly what she was doing by getting involved with someone who could give her social status, a life of comfort, and a position she didn’t have in either the magical or Muggle world.
Severus clearly went in a different direction. He wasn’t doing well at school, and the rich, popular kids decided that picking on him was easier than going after their rich, pure-blood classmates, because those pure-bloods could get them into real trouble, so it was easier, more comfortable, and safer to go after the weakest link—the poor half-blood. They made life unbearable for someone who already felt that life outside of school was equally unbearable. They bullied someone who was already being abused outside of school, and that’s probably what pushed Severus—if he already had an interest in the Dark Arts—closer to more negative influences.
Lily and Severus grew apart as they matured, and this is completely normal. It happens to all of us as kids. We all had those close childhood friends who took different paths during adolescence, and that’s okay. The problem is that, despite everything, Severus still saw Lily as that symbol of his childhood happiness. She was his happy memory (which is why the whole Patronus thing makes a lot of sense), because he probably didn’t have happier moments than the ones he shared with her. And in the midst of all the bullying and questionable influences at Hogwarts, during the early years, Lily was probably also his safe space. But Lily didn’t see Severus in the same way, and I’m not talking about romance, but rather that she didn’t see their friendship as something necessary, something emotionally vital for her. Severus was dependent; she wasn’t.
In a way, I think that, beyond emotional immaturity, Severus also lacked healthy emotional role models, and therefore he didn’t realize that Lily was actually kind of a jerk. Add to that the fact that he was blinded by her, considering her his emotional anchor, and he probably wasn’t able to see her negative traits. That’s also very common.
I believe that if Lily hadn’t died and Severus had had the chance to have a life of his own without sacrificing all his autonomy and independence to serve Dumbledore, over time he would have matured and gained perspective, because despite everything, he was a smart guy. He would have realized that his relationship with Lily was always one-sided, and I think he could have started fresh and become a functional person. But he never got that chance. It’s been proven in psychiatry that abuse victims who don’t process their traumas remain stuck in the time period when the abuse occurred. In Severus’ case, the abuse started in childhood and continued throughout adolescence, so it’s logical and normal that he ended up being a very dysfunctional adult, unable to manage his emotions properly or set limits for himself when situations triggered him too much. In some ways, he acts like a child. The comment about Hermione’s teeth is childish—it sounds like something Draco would say, and Draco is a teenager. The same goes for many of his remarks to Harry or Neville, which are basically sarcastic jabs from a bratty kid being a jerk. I think we see this best (because it happens between equals, interestingly between two people with significant emotional issues) when he has several confrontations with Sirius. Maybe Sirius’ immaturity is more obvious because he’s a loudmouth and pretty extroverted, but Severus also behaves like a brat, which shows that despite not spending 12 years in Azkaban, he hasn’t grown either. If we think about it, Severus had his own Azkaban: Hogwarts. He had to return to the place where he had a terrible time and experienced several of his worst traumas, to teach, even though he didn’t even want to be a teacher, and he had to adopt that jerk persona to mask all the emotions and insecurities he felt being there. You can’t heal in the place where you were hurt. You can’t heal by giving up your life for a greater good. You can’t heal while feeling guilty over the death of someone who was once the most important person in your life. Severus was stuck in adolescence mentally, even though he was an adult. And this happens a lot with victims like him.
Honestly, despite everything, I think Severus was quite level-headed and pretty decent. Or maybe I’m saying this because I’m more of a jerk than he is, but I would have made James Potter and Sirius Black suffer a lot. I would have found out all their secrets and made them public, putting all my efforts into making them wish they were dead and even have suicidal thoughts. And if a friend of mine had acted like Lily, who kind of laughed when Snape was being abused, I would’ve beaten her so badly she’d lose her nose. But well, I have less ethics than Severus and maybe more temper.
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~I had someone tell me they feel I add “unneeded information” to my characters;;
I’m not mad at this person because they are a bae and they’re entitled to their opinion.
I don’t agree, actually. Here’s why:
I watched Spider-man 2 again and from what I saw I personally believe it was a combination of things.
the loss of Rosie
being pushed into the spotlight suddenly
no privacy
no space or time to grieve Rosie
being exploited by The Bugle for profit
being forced into this persona he did not choose ‘Doc Ock’ which he never refers to himself as
losing his job, home, career, humanity
being used and manipulated by things he designed / built
suddenly having four very big and deadly machines on his back
having a mental health crises
I think all of those things contributed to Otto just losing his mind. Suddenly being pushed into the spotlight while having a mental health crises AND just losing your wife of 20+ years would make anyone go nuts. Like, imagine how scared Otto would actually be. I can’t imagine. As an introvert myself, suddenly having the whole world know about me would be terrifying. I also think Otto had prior struggles with mental health due to his childhood and everything that happened to him, literally overnight, pushed him over the edge. The arms used Otto’s compromised mental state to exploit and ab*se their creator to do their bidding.
You guys, remember, Otto was physically and mentally ab*sed by his father Tobert Octavius for his whole childhood. It’s not in the movie but it is part of the comic book background. Add that childhood trauma to the trauma celebrities deal with being famous. I think Otto just couldn’t deal with it and didn’t know how to ask for help. Imagine how powerless Otto must have felt. I can’t see any therapists getting in line wanting to help a man with four giant metal arms on his back. Which is why Otto fell through the cracks but it’s also why Peter’s conversation to “defeat” Otto was so profound. Peter was the FIRST person to show kindness and compassion. He understood Otto was a very broken and hurting human being. Peter spoke to the person Otto was. He never saw Otto as this crazy monster, he always saw him as his mentor. Otto was’t evil, he was suffering. I don’t “add unneeded info” I write from a different angle. It’s an angle that is very important to write about.
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Doomfist must have to deal with a lot of shit in Talon between everybody. Like a 7 foot tall HR manager. Could we get sone interractions reflecting this?
I love Beleaguered Manager Doomfist so much you don’t even know.
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Doomfist: I always love hearing about your side projects, Sombra, what are you up to these days?
Sombra: Oh I keep myself busy. You hear about the mysterious disappearance of that Axiom hedge fund manager and all of her assets?
Doomfist: ...I must admit, I have not.
Sombra: Exactly.
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Doomfist: So... how is your list coming along?
Reaper: *snarling scoff*
Doomfist: I’m not saying there’s a deadline, I’m just wondering about your progress.
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Moira: I must say, this organization seems put to right now that Vialli isn’t around to obsess over every penny.
Doomfist: Ideology must always come first, Moira, I know we can agree on that. Though I must ask, does the R&D department really need six different acid tubs?
Moira: Incompetent labtechs must be made example of--er--I mean it’s very important to my research.
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Sigma: I deeply appreciate my new accommodations, Mr. Ogundimu, and I don’t mean to intrude, but I don’t know who else to ask about this and there seems to be a consistent issue with a lack of coffee stirrers in the break room. I don’t know who keeps using them all, but--
Doomfist: ...you literally can create angular velocity with your gravity powers. You can stir with your mind.
Sigma: Yes, but it’s the principle of it---and I find the gesture calming.
Doomfist: *sigh* I’ll look into it.
Rincewind: The world stresses me out, man. Twoflower: You could try meditation. Rincewind: No. I need to be fully in the shit. Stress keeps me grounded. Reminds me that I’m here. It’s almost a spiritual thing.