seething and malding rn after reading a Jacobin article about Robespierre where they said he is “often invoked by liberals as a Stalin-like tyrant”
bitch he WAS a liberal. The entire revolution was the epitome of liberalism. I fucking hate how authoritarian communists like Jacobin have stolen its legacy (they even stole the name!)
they even bring up the “economic radicalism” of the Revolution - which was capitalism! it was radical because it overthrew the dominant feudal-mercantilist order. But irony is completely lost on communists because they’re braindead idiots.
sometimes I go on rule 34 and read out the comments in the voice Drew Gooden uses when he’s reading the titles of bad movies.
why is this fascist shit on my dash
It is the United States that is truly the axis of evil (1992)
I think you’re misunderstanding - mantling is not the end-point of the Six Walking Ways. It *is* one of the Six Walking Ways -
1. Anumidium
2. The Psyjic Endeavour
3. The Prolix Tower
4. CHIM
5. The Enantiomorph, or Mantling
6. The Scarab that transforms into the New Man
All of them lead to apotheosis in their own different way.
Anumidium is what both Voryn Dagoth and Mannimarco used to become gods - the influence of the Numidium and the Heart (or the Mantella, a convincing facsimile) can raise a mortal to godhood.
The Endeavour is the Walking Way that Boethiah taught Veloth. It is centred around the journey and trials of a Hero (as in, a player character). This was the way that Nerevar attained. I think Sermon 16 illustrated it best - Vivec tells Nerevar to “Reach Heaven by Violence,” or, CHIM - but Nerevar is a Hero, so instead he goes to Masser and kills “parliament of craters” there, and tries to break into Magnus’ library behind the sun. He literally turns it into a quest to commit violence in the heavens.
The Prolix Tower requires the bending of the Earthbones via Tones - shouting, tonal architecture, etc. As the Earthbones dictate the laws of the universe, you’re literally rewriting those laws to make yourself a god. This is *probably* what happened to the Dwemer.
CHIM is “reaching heaven by violence”, which I translate as “becoming a god by loving the violent” - that’s what the Pomegranate Banquet is about, Vivec loving the god of rape and destruction. The end goal of CHIM is simultaneously comprehending the full scope of existence and your insignificant place in it, and yet continuing to protest your own significance. Looking the godhead in the eye and saying “yes, I am real.” Obviously this is what Vivec did, and personally I believe that Reman Cyrodiil also achieved CHIM, but that’s a personal theory.
The Enantiomorph - and I’m just going to copy the UESP for this one - is “an existence wherein two individuals, due to a catalyst coveted by both, become parts of a merged dichotomy, and thus are metaphysically interchangeable.” Translated into English, that means the creation of two beings who are so similar that the universe has no choice but to consider them the same - which is exactly what the HoK did to take the role of Sheogorath. *Walk like them until they must walk like you*.
As far as I can tell we know next to nothing about the Scarab. If we dig into Kirkbride’s extracanonical stuff, we can find “The Nu-Mantia Intercept.” Nu-Mantia… New Man… it don’t think it’s a stretch. From there, we can assume that things like Nu-Hatta and Nu-Cyrod are also related to the Scarab - and if that’s true, from what we see of Nu-Cyrod in PGE3, the Scarab might have apocalyptic connotations.
Anyway. I got a *bit* carried away there, but to summarize - the Six Walking Ways, of which mantling is *one*, all lead to apotheosis, or godhood.
It’s my opinion that Ayem and Seht did not achieve any of the walking ways. Instead, they created a facsimile of godhood by stealing the power of the heart, a god. In much the same way, I believe, mages such as pre-Warp Mannimarco, Divyath Fyr, or Zurin Arctus can reach a godlike state by stealing the power of another god, this time Magnus. Vivec is the only one who actually went further and achieved proper godhood, which is why he/she is still alive in the Fifth Era to marry Jubal lun-Sul at the end of c0da.
The ending of the words is AlmSiVi
My favorite concept in all of the Elder Scrolls' lore is Mantling.
Mantling, poetically described as "walk like them, until they must walk like you" is, in my opinion, the coolest method of achieving apotheosis I've ever seen in fiction.
The concept that acting like someone/something and BEING that someone or something is just so filed with irony and cool possibilities.
Did Martin embody Akatosh enough to summon him, or to BECOME him?
Does the HoK embody Sheogorath, or are they Sheogorath?
"My first question is: Are you really Nerevar reborn?"
Are you? Is the Nerevarine truly, really, the embodiment or reincarnation of Nerevar? I often RP as such, that my beastfolk, Imperial guild member, outlander N'wah truly is Nerevar. Serves the racist, xenophobic Dunmer right that their Messiah is all that they hate.
But on a more lore-brained, and less commonly discussed level, does it matter?
Prophecy is all about the will of mortals anyway. The failed incarnates claim that the fact that they failed means the prophecy is more believable, but it seems that prophecy is more often a mix of vague, mystical mumbo-jumbo with a helping of Determined mortal will. So being the prophesized savior or not is less important than having the capacity to fulfill the duties imposed on the savior.
So, what other examples of Mantling do I especially enjoy?
Well, surely the many Shezarrines are a fan favorite. Pelinal and Arctus or Talos or Ysimir or all three.
Micheal Kirkbride seems to favor Cyrus, who mantled the HoonDing, together with Crown Prince A'tor.
Then, if we bring in other, unconfirmed cases, the Ruddy Man seems to allow others who wear him to Mantle some form of Dreugh-based interpretation of Molag Bal.
And then, the most controversial of my takes: the Tribunal are mantling the Three Good Daedra.
Vivec claims to have achieved CHIM, but how this was done is shrouded in mystery. Certainly, the use of Kagrenac's tools on the Heart of Lorkhan seems to have been a factor. Understanding, however, that CHIM is merely one of the Six Walking Ways, all used to achieve Apotheosis, or Mantling, there must be a "them" to walk like.
So the Tribunal almost certainly mantle their own Anticipation, without fully attaining their powers, and thus replacing them, as the HoK does, nor disappearing in the process, as Martin did.
Their wish was to remain closer to mortality, and to their beloved people.
The ending of the words is ALMSIVI
cant stop thinking about the yellowjackets cgs still being just teenagers . like yes, they take amazing care of the little’s but it takes the combined forces of Nat, Tai and Laura Lee to try and make a bottle for Lottie the first time. And little!van whining and rolling around because they are SO bored but Mama can’t play right now because she’s doing homework. Nat and Jackie are deep into a gossip session about someone from school who had a go at Lottie in the hallway and Lottie’s just sitting on Nat’s lap with her fingers in her mouth completely unaware of what they are talking about. Shauna, who is usually the go to for English assignments, being regressed and now they’re all just making up their essays and it’s not going to end well.
I have been waiting all year to post this.
doesn’t Azura spend like. three thousand years trying to murder three queer people.
Happy Trans Day of Visibility!
I have always had the headcanon that Azura is a patron god of trans people. And Vivayth, being a trans woman, definitely thinks of Azura as a protector!
Hey!! Your reply to my (dagoth ur propaganda) post interested me, i haven't seen in TES lore that Dagoth Ur would have returned many times (i tried searching for that info at one point, it would've been useful in a story i was writing at the time) so i'm curious if i overlooked some detail?? 👀👀
so most of that was “devout tribunal worshipper larp”
but there’s definitely evidence for OTHER members of House Dagoth returning after they were killed. If you manage to talk to Ascended Sleepers, you can ask them about “understand nothing” and they say:
“You think what you do has meaning? You slay me and I am dead? It is just dream and waking, over and over, one appearance after another, nothing real…”
which I’ve always taken to mean that you can kill them, but they are revived by the heart. we can also tie this to Lord Vivec’s dialogue when you ask him about “to be a god”. She replies:
“…It is a bit like being at once awake and asleep. Awake, I am here with you, thinking and talking. Asleep, I am very, very busy. Perhaps for other gods, the completely immortal ones, it is only like that being asleep. Out of time. Me, I exist at once inside of time and outside of it.
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It's nice never being dead, too. When I die in the world of time, then I'm completely asleep. I'm very much aware that all I have to do is choose to wake. And I'm alive again…”
So I take that to mean that those connected to the Heart of Lorkhan are functionally immortal, returning to life some time after their supposed death, just like the Ascended Sleeper said. The *dream* that the Sleeper mentions is death. *Waking* is being alive again. For what it’s worth, Vivec calls the followers of Dagoth Ur “heartwights,” meaning they definitely have some connection to the Heart, even if they aren’t on the same level as the Three.
There’s also Dagoth Ur’s famous line, “I’m a god! How can you kill a god?”, which comes right after you beat him in the outer chamber, then walk into the Heart Chamber and he’s right there again. I’ve always taken this as “we kill him in the outer chamber and then he revives inside.”
So I definitely think Dagoth Ur *could* come back to life, if killed. Did he? Probably. We know that the Three made yearly pilgrimages to the Heart to replenish their power. We also know that Vivec defeated Dagoth Ur at least once in open battle. I think it’s likely that the Three would have fought and beaten him at least a few times.
red china, as opposed to blue and purple china
generally the colour people use for anti-communism is white. but the KMT’s flag was blue so I’ll accept it.
I say “red China” to distinguish the illegitimate government in Beijing from the Republic on Taiwan. “Red” is quicker to type than “communist” or “mainland”.
"- oh hunter"
on my bullshit again with these two
animal crossing lottienat n old doodles
Montagnard, Liberal, Radical, transfem. Autocrats of all stripes are not welcome here, be you fascist, communist, or monarchist. Current obsessions:YellowjacketsYes MinisterTESThe French RevolutionPoetry
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