I Think There’s A Consensus That Most Of The Adults In The CAA Failed Gon And Killua Miserably (mainly
I think there’s a consensus that most of the adults in the CAA failed Gon and Killua miserably (mainly by treating them like adults and not traumatized children). But if a responsible adult HAD shown up, and told them Kite’s death wasn’t their fault and they shouldn’t be involved in the operation, would they have even listened? Neither takes kindly to being “treated like a kid”.
Anon, I love you!
Yes, I completely agree this is the issue in CAA. Here’s some panels for the folks following along at home:
SO, I’ve been saying for a while that one thing Kite does, that Gon and Killua’s previous mentors did *not* do, is treat both Gon and Killua as professional - adult - hunters.
I believe Kite does this because - unlike Wing and Bisky - he isn’t used to working with kids.... Wing is also training Zushi, who’s even younger than Killua and Gon, when they meet. And this isn’t Bisky’s first go-round training child protegies in nen, either.
On the other hand, Kite works with a crew of adults, he treats Gon and Killua the same way he treats anyone else on the crew:
Look at Gon and Killua’s faces in the last panel... they freaking LOVE Kite telling his crew, of adults, that they have a lot to learn from them haha.
Also, there’s actually a bit of time between when Gon and Killua reconnect with Kite, and when they go to NGL to investigate the Chimera Ants....if you only watched the anime you might not realize this, but in the manga, Gon and Killua work with Kite’s crew for a month before the Chimera Ant Queen washes up on shore in NGL.
And that whole time, they aren’t just two well-respected members of the team, but like... two of the BEST two members of the team??? Kite’s assessment of their abilities is not based on nothing, it’s based on his observation of them and their abilities.
Here’s what Kite’s crew think about Gon and Killua’s abilities:
Here’s what Kite thinks:
SO, when Gon and Killua choose to follow Kite into the NGL battefield, it’s actually against this background of working as professional hunters for the first time, and being respected for it!
Gon is earning the respect of Kite, the hunter he respects the MOST because of his connection to Ging, and because he saved Gon’s life as a kid. We all know how much Gon hates feeling weak, right? When Kite rescued him as a kid he was weak, but he got stronger, passed the Hunter exam, did a bunch of stuff and now he’s on equal footing with Kite, in the sense that they are both Pro Hunters.
And Killua is also earning respect as a Pro Hunter, not an assassin... it’s only because Gon and Bisky encouraged him that he left Greed Island to take the Hunter exam, but it seems at this point in the story that he’s fully resolved to stop working as an assassin, and work as a Pro Hunter with Gon instead.
So getting back to the question of whether Gon and Killua would have gone home, if the adults in charge had told them to... I mean, that’s what Kite, Netero, Morel and Knov ALL told them to do.
It’s in chapter 196, if you’re curious.
Kite was wrong, he underestimated the enemy. He admits as much to Gon, when Gon comes to apologize to him (chapter 338 “repentance”). He could have been a lot more firm about excluding Gon and Killua.
Netero, Knov and Morel were also wrong, they also underestimated the enemy (and Killua). For example, when they heard that Killua had knocked Gon out and retreated from Pitou, they told him it was a cowardly thing to do, and a real Hunter would believe in his ability to win even against a stronger foe (something Bisky also says to Kilua).
And that assessment is something Killua takes to heart, because it’s something he’s struggled with since the beginning of the manga, when Netero told him Gon had more potential as a Hunter. (Also when he failed the exam on purpose and went home, and also when he struggled in Yorknew with his desire to prove Illumi was wrong about him by sacrificing himself for Gon.)
(And also, you know... when he pulled the needle out!)
I think we’re supposed to believe it to an extent, BTW, that this kind of blindly optimistic attitude - Gon’s shounen protagonist(TM) attitude that everything will work out if you just give it your all - is somewhat correct. That there’s some truth to the idea that being willing to risk your life to win is how you win. Bisuke says as much to Killua, and Bisuke is usually right... Like they say, nothing ventured, nothing gained. It’s the highest-risk situations that also have the highest rewards.
But we’re also supposed to see the limits to this kind of blind optimism. Gon is optimistic that he can defeat Pitou and save Kite (or he’s in denial that he can’t), and look what happened with that, right? Sometimes the enemy really is too strong.
SO I see I number of things going on here: One, the fact that the adults are treating Gon and Killua like professionals (or at least not being discouraging enough); and Two, that the adults are failable, in the end. They don’t realize the true extent of the threat, they overestimate themselves and underestimate the enemy.
That’s Kilua’s assessment, by the way.
As for Knov, Morel and Netero:
(Netero asks, was it such a powerful adversary? And Killua explains about Pitou’s aura. At which point:)
Only Netero takes Killua assessment of Pitou’s strength - “You guys are powerful, too... and still I don’t think you could defeat him” - even a little bit seriously. But then, Netero is also the only one, of the three of them, who knows exactly who Killua is and what he is capable of.
Knov, and Morel and Netero in the end get their comeuppance, when they experience firsthand exactly how strong the enemy is (Knov especially). All three characters come up against the limits of their abilities, where they’re just outmatched in terms of strength, even as powerful pro hunters. Netero and Morel fight through it, Knov retreats to a support role. But definitely they are all humbled.
People can be wrong, you know? All of these characters were wrong about how strong the Chimera Ants would be...
If you want my opinion, HxH Chimera Ant Arc is a Deconstruction, it shows the limits to the Weekly Shonen Jump core values of Friendship, Hard Work, Victory. Sometimes the enemy is just too strong.
And it’s also a Tragedy. The thing that defines tragedy, as a genre, is that it is the inevitable result of a specific character flaw of the protagonist... which in this case is Gon’s willingness to sacrifice his own life, because he doesn’t value his life enough compared to others’ lives. And it’s also Killua’s flaw of following what Gon wants to do, and not voicing his objections because he fears they would damage the relationship. Because both of them are protagonists, it’s a double tragedy...
Here’s what Hegel says about Tragedy, as a genre, btw:
His later lectures formulate such a theory of tragedy as a conflict of ethical forces, represented by characters...
The heroes of ancient classical tragedy encounter situations in which, if they firmly decide in favor of the one ethical pathos that alone suits their finished character, they must necessarily come into conflict with the equally justified ethical power that confronts them.
Modern characters, on the other hand, stand in a wealth of more accidental circumstances, within which one could act this way or that, so that the conflict is, though occasioned by external preconditions, still essentially grounded in the character. The new individuals, in their passions, obey their own nature... simply because they are what they are.
Hegel's comments on a particular play may better elucidate his theory: "Viewed externally, Hamlet's death may be seen to have been brought about accidentally... but in Hamlet's soul, we understand that death has lurked from the beginning: the sandbank of finitude cannot suffice his sorrow and tenderness, such grief and nausea at all conditions of life... we feel he is a man whom inner disgust has almost consumed well before death comes upon him from outside."[71]
Anyway. The Chimera Ant Arc is a Tragedy. Possibly it could have happened differently, but at the same time, exactly because the characters are the people they are, and “individual personality... must manifest self-destructive passions because only such passions are strong enough to defend the individual from a hostile and capricious external world” (Hegal again), there was no other outcome that could have occurred.
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Do you think Killua and Gon's love languages are compatible and how so?
Heya!
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh depends what you mean by that?
Gon’s way to reach out, to remind Killua how much he likes being with him, the declarations out of the blue, those are all compatible for Killua - everytime Gon had been vocal out of the blue about his affections for Killua, we saw direct physical reaction from him showing he was touched. So I think that works out.
On the other hand, Gon is rather perseptive, while he can’t realizes everything and is still oblivious at time, he has a strong understanding of some situation which allow him to get past some of Killua’s barrers and therefore, can make up for the amount of time Killua does not talk about his feelings. So Gon can look past how Killua closes himself about his feelings, and can still identify the actions Killua takes that are completely genuine. It can help with Killua’s language barrers a lot.
It works, but on the long term, they need to instore more communications. While so far they managed to get a lot through those, a lot of the unsaid is what brought the mutual breakdowns from the CA arc. Because sometimes Killua is too quiet for Gon to pick up what to cheer him up from, (The needle, the Bisky dilema, and Killua almost dying were all stuff Killua kept hiden from Gon and that Gon could never pick up on his own, no matter how perseptive he can be) or Gon will try cheering Killua up before the actual issue (Spending his time as he woke up from the Kite’s attack to reassure Killua only then to be in denial, which had Killua feel unable to tell Gon the truth by fear he may end up blaming him - and the fact when Gon legit killed himself he spent his last minutes reassuring Killua.).
The thing is that both knows that the other have a huge affection for them. On the most part, some of it works. But the CA arc also showed that, pushed to some extreme, those two behaviors wouldn’t be as compatible as they could have been in the Greed Island Arc. The GI arc showed us a lot of this Unsaid Understanding between those two, of Gon reading the situation despite Killua’s quietness over his feelings, and Gon acknowledging Killua’s action. This is the exact thing we can see as a parallel in the CA arc while, while pushed to personal extreme, those doesn’t work anymore.
I don’t think it’s a question of love language. It’s a little more complicated than that, and it enters a lot of conditional situations for it to work. The GI arc was proof that yes, their love languages were compatible, but the CA arc, with both pushed to those extreme, proved als that it wasn’t. Because they were at different personal mental state where it wasn’t working as well as before.
Again, i’ll repeat it over and over again, but they are in desperate need of communication. It may have worked in the begining with their unsaid understanding, but on the long term…. They need to talk more, to be honest. Killua needs to talk about what he feels, Gon needs to stop putting reassuring Killua over the things they should be talking about.
So y e. Idk i don’t think it’s a love language thing, and it’s not that easy to narrow down because Gon and Killua changed a lot during the course of the series and the events that happened to them challenged their habits and their ways to react to it. IT’s not that easy, it can’t be that easily narrowed down imo.
Take care!
hi! do you have any hurt/comfort fics where gon is the one being comforted?
All righty, this took a hot minute because Killua is infamous for being the comforted party in hxh hurt/comfort fics XD but I tracked down a handful that focus on Gon’s inner struggles!
Please mind the tags, since hurt/comfort fics tend to have darker/more triggering themes. <3
~Gabs ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
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Hurt/Comfort (Gon)
7 Works.
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worse sights than this by Quintessence ( T | 2,049 | 1/1 )
Be strong, saith my heart; I am a soldier; / I have seen worse sights than this.
“It had to be fair, you know? I knew that from the moment I saw Kite’s body, torn apart and sewn back together over and over again. I had to do some sort of penance for that. I had to make up for what I’d done. I had to. I needed pain. A lot of it. Maybe enough…”
Gon takes a deep breath.
“Maybe enough that I wouldn’t make it out in one piece.”
In which things long unspoken finally come to light.
[Suicidal Thoughts]
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whatever a moon has always meant by Quintessence ( T | 2,871 | 1/1 )
“That’s what I’m trying to tell you,” Killua says, firm but gentle. “You’re not slowing down. If you let yourself rest properly, you’ll actually be more efficient. I think you should take the rest of the day off, get as much sleep as you want tonight, and pick things back up tomorrow.”
All at once, tears gather in Gon’s eyes, and he begins to tremble, so violently that Killua can see it from across the kitchen.
“What right do I have to that?” Gon all but shouts, his voice breaking. “People are being hurt and I’m one of the few people who can actually do something about it, so what right do I have to relax? The people who are in trouble aren’t getting to relax! Not even for a moment! Why should I get that luxury?”
In which Gon tries to carry the weight of the world on his shoulders, and stumbles under the load.
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these things don't just fade away by burbs ( T | 5,246 | 1/1 )
Gon, if possible, becomes more reckless.
[Self-Harm | Suicidal Thoughts]
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the one that you want by poeticlump ( T | 3,110 | 1/1 )
“I-I just . . .”
“You just what, Gon.” His soft white hair was disheveled, sneakers coated in fresh city grime, and he looked like he wanted to scream—in a way that only Gon could recognize. His stance was composed, cold, calculated; with Killua it was all in his eyes.
But for one of the record first times in his life, Gon had no words. For the first time, he didn’t want to be honest. He didn’t want to be straightforward. He was sick of telling everyone in the world exactly what he felt and wanted. Some things, some things were sacred. Some things Killua wouldn’t understand.
He wouldn’t understand that Gon wanted him to himself.
[OR Gon reunites with his best friend only to experience a night of blinding, all-consuming jealousy.]
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It’s Alright by orphan_account ( T | 2,527 | 1/1 )
Gon keeps smiling, assuring Killua that he's alright despite the evidence contrary. Killua has to find a way to help him before it's too late.
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Lilacs by DecemberCamie ( G | 1,217 | 1/1 )
If Gon got the Hanahaki Disease...
((Hanahaki Disease - an illness in which unrequited love causes the patient to coughs up flower petals, eventually leading to suffocation))
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less than half myself by lxonardo ( T | 6,020 | 1/1 )
"You know you don’t have to figure this out alone, right? We can do it together, so pl—”
“But I really don’t know. I don’t want to burden you—” Gon trembled, grabbing the slide door to keep himself steady. He shut his eyes tightly, suddenly his eyes growing heavy with tears building up. “I don’t know why I’m feeling like this all of a sudden.”
Within a split second, Killua rushed to his side, gentle arms embracing him in a hug. Gon was shaking, and he circled his arms back around his waist, resting his temple on his shoulder. His gut was telling him to get away and you’ll be hurt again, and it was growing louder. But Gon chose to ignore it, because he was safe and Killua wouldn’t do anything to hurt him. Killua was, if anything, a safe haven to him; it made no sense that he would subconsciously fear him, especially when he’s been with him for so long.
[Implied/Referenced Past Sexual Abuse]
all the merch posting made me look on yahoo auctions and i will absolutely die if i do not own this
“we will not forgive anyone who disses togashi!!”
(Art response, pls, if you have time. 🙏🏻)
In response to your cat Childe post-
Do you think Zhongli glows whenever he blushes?
Like, Childe will make a comment, causing Zhongli to blush a bit - but not so much that it's noticeable in the daylight. So Childe's like 😼 "Challenge accepted." and proceeds to keep saying all these things, throwing in some compliments for fun, and just watches Zhongli light up.
- 🦚 anon
HEHEHE
AAAAAAASAIDHS THIS IS SO SADDD
Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Hunter X Hunter Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Gon Freecs/Killua Zoldyck, Gon Freecs & Killua Zoldyck Characters: Gon Freecs, Killua Zoldyck Additional Tags: Child Abuse, Past Child Abuse, Hurt/Comfort, Past Torture Summary:
Set post S1 E25, just after the Zoldyck family arc. Little bit of head canon filler/ fix it fic. Canon compliant violence and discussion of abuse.
‘Killua hisses as he passes over a particularly deep lash, its edges are frayed and it cannot have been made by a regular whip. Gon’s fist clenches around the cloth, and warm water runs out between his fingers. He’s heard of such things in dark corners from cruel people, but never seen them. His next word breaks in two and he sounds far more like the child both of them are supposed to be than either of them ever do.
“Why?” ’
Killua and Gon discuss what happened to him at the Zoldyck mansion.
more school shenanigans
ok wait, reblog if you’ve cried at least once because of math, doesn’t matter which grade i’m trying to prove something
love tsoa, but currently thinking about how this fits killugon lol
Im a big fan of the "I am yours" trope. Like, in less of a possessive way and more of a sacrificial, two-way way.
When they would live for them, die for them, kill for them, throw away their past and future for them, give up their humanity and embrace the forbidden for them. When they would push against the world, everybody and everything around them, when they would challenge God for them. When they're the lighthouse in a dark storm, when they're only safe with them, when it's them against the world and the world can burn if it means they're together.
something i was thinking about
If someone were to ask me what I could binge hours upon hours of, clearly, I’d say Hunter X Hunter. It could be either the 2011, 1999, or even the manga, but I can say that I most definitely can watch hours worth of people analyzing the characters and the impact their backgrounds and walks of life play on their emotional, physical, and mental states.
Through those videos, I can understand the characters better and understand how they got there, with those specific motives and drives for what they do on a more in-depth level.
Another thing that I get from the videos is understanding not only the true impacts certain ways of life, habits, trauma, and issues have on the psyche of the characters and those around them, but it also helps me to understand the show waaaaaayyyy better.
Little side note, I notice that it also seeps into my life. The impact this show had on me didn’t entirely occur to me until I binged people analyzing the world and characters. I, for once, truly learned something that has stuck with me for longer than most other things have.
Masterlist
Published: Jan 29th, 2021 Most Recent Edit: October 22nd, 2021
Omegas
Different Types of Heats
Omega Stereotypes: Which are True?
Collars and Neck Coverings
Can Omegas have the biological urge to dominate?
Punk Omega Headcanon
Can omegas ignore an alpha voice?
Omega Headcanon 1, 2, 3
Spooky Szn
Gift from Omega to Alpha
Alphas
Different Types of Ruts
Alpha Stereotypes: Which are True?
Alpha Headcanon 1, 2, 3
Alphas around Omegas in heat
Alpha Female Reproduction Anatomy
Ruts Impacted by Alpha’s (In)security
Alpha Voice 1, 2, 3
Alpha finds injured Omega
Betas
What it actually means to be a Beta
How can Betas with weaker instincts help and understand the pack?
Beta Headcanon 1, 2, 3
Pack
Pack Size
Pack Living Accommodations
Omegaverse: Parental Names
Pack Roles
What happens to packless people?
Sister Packs
All Female Pack
Pups/Teens
Presentation at Different Times
Adoption in Omegaverse
Scruffing
Pup Headcanon 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Pup Sounds
Presentation
Teens Courting
Young Unplanned Pregnancy
My Recommendations and Opinions
My Omegaverse Symbol
Things I will never support in Omegaverse
A/B/O Tag Recommendations
Traditionals vs. Non-Traditional a/b/o
A/B/O Guide Recommendations
My Opinion of Deltas 1, 2
My Opinion on True Mates
What is my favorite niche/trope in Omegaverse?
Omegaverse Blogs List
Starting an Omegaverse Blog
Random
Different Nests Aesthetics
Omegaverse Mermaid AU
Omegaverse Worldbuilding Starter Kit
10+ Pack Content Tag
Revolutions/Rebellions in Omegaverse
Alpha Female x Omega Male whose Omega Daughter Plays Contact Sports
Alpha Female x Omega Male whose Omega Daughter has Depression
City Specific Headcanons
Mates in a No Pack AU
Night Terrors
Modern Day Courting
Parental Names
Sex Ed Classes
Bonds 1, 2
Biology and Anatomy
Scent Glands 1, 2, 3
Omegaverse Sounds
Periods in Omegaverse?, 2
Omegas with Reproductive Organ Medical Conditions
Can Male Alphas get Pregnant?
Heats and Ruts after Giving Birth
Female Alpha Anatomy
Male Alpha vs Female Alpha Fertility Rate
What Causes Knots?, 2
Male Omegas Breasts
Pregnancy Stats
Dynamics Without a Sense of Smell
Mental Health and Sexuality
ADHD
Gender Dysphoria
Asexuality and Aromanticism
Omega with BPD
Transdynamics
Omega with Tics/Tourette’s
Adynamics
Bronwyn Pack
Sawyer and Jude
Dorian and El
Whole Bronwyn Pack
Jude, Dorian, and El Pic- My OT3
Valentines Day Pic
Relationships
Female Alpha x Male Omega
True Mates Headcanons, 2
Male Alpha x Male Omega x Female Omega
Female Omega x Male Beta x Female Alpha
True Mates Red String Headcanons
Person from Our World True Mate in Omegaverse, Part 2
Female Omega x Male Beta x Female Alpha 2
Restaurant Owners Beta Female x Beta Male
Upper Class x Lower Class True Mates
Late Presenting Omega Headcanon
Omega x Alpha x Alpha (x Beta)
Omega X Beta Whump Headcanon
Female Alpha x Female Omega
Male Alpha x Female Beta
Male Alpha x Male Beta x Male Omega
Memes
Alpha Meme 1
Omega Meme 1, 2
Beta Meme 1
Random Meme 1, 2, 3, 4
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