absolutely obsessed with the dynamic between Matt and Frank it's gotta be one of my favorite character dynamics of all time. Frank kills people as a hobby and Matt has never killed in his life. they can't have a conversation without cursing each other out. they trust each other enough to hold one another as they jump off a building. they physically fight more often than not. Frank has seen Matt's bare ass. they're both in love with the same woman who respects herself too much to hook up with either one of them. Matt is a Catholic who believes every soul can be saved except for his own and Frank doesn't think either of theirs needs to be. can anybody hear me is this thing on
matt murdock coded
“This is our city, not his. And we CAN take it back”
“Resist. Rebel. Rebuild.”
What an interesting and not at all culturally relevant thing to say Matthew
Charlie really making one of the best cases for Twink Death -> DILF Birth ✨
this is so true! i also think it was really hard for frank to see matt like that. like his fire had gone out. he does have respect for daredevil, and seeing him so broken must have been so disconcerting.
even saying all the terrible pointed things he said, you could see how wounded frank was.
No but the way Frank didn’t want Matt to leave, thinking of sth new to say every time he turned to walk out and then looking empty af once Matt actually left??? Frank‘s so damn lonely, sitting in that dark basement surrounded by only guns, hit maps and the memories of his family. 😭
Not me not shutting up as usual.
It's pretty evident that Karen and Matt vs Fisk and Vanessa are meant to be seen as units when it comes to parallels and foils.
This gets more in line with Karedevil because thematically and writing wise is what makes more sense. If that bothers you, please don't read it.
Vanessa and Fisk do love each other but they love nothing else. Their love makes them even worse people, it makes them more selfish, more brutal, more unrelenting.
Vanessa kills Adam (that, like Frank is right in the middle of the shot) because she knows Fisk won't do it so she will. For him. For them.
Theorically, we were also meant to see the flip side of that and I believe (again nin shipper, I'm just being objective here) that Karen and Matt are there representation of that.
In just a few minutes Karen got to show Matt that, like Foggy, she sees all of him (and it was left implied that like Foggy she loves all of him) but the main difference here is that she pushes Matt to be better, she forgives him his transgressions and loves him in spite of them.
But Karen is one of the reasons Matt went through one of his biggest character arcs (the one of letting people in). She made him see he wasn't alone, that he he has her, and I think she probably regrets having left.
But I do think Vanessa and Fisk are meant to show the dark side of love while Matt and Karen are the representation of the light, healthy side of that love. Potentially, even though Karen obviously has feelings for Frank.
Both foil each other, contrast each other and parallel each other. I believe this is meant to establish them as THE couples of the story, but for different reasons.
I think is disingenuous to believe that they'd get Matt and Karen together just due to the comics. There's enough textual and visual cues on both the Netflix and Disney parts of this that lead me see that as possibility.
i'm actually very normal about most characters believe it or not, but when it comes it matt murdock i'm screaming into the void, chewing up the couch, and punching walls. he's so bullied by every single plotline. he's so pathetic. he's defined by so so much tragedy. he's such an asshole. he's plagued by catholic guilt. he is THE character. he's as beautiful as the day I lost him. i love him, your honor.
people who draw/write jake as the 'evil alter' are insane. this guy??? friend guy????? the most caring and kind alter????? leave him alone.
Matt Murdock to himself, at literally any given moment in DDBA:
bloody matt murdock the man that you are
Daredevil 3x07 - Aftermath (2018)
Daredevil: Born Again vs. The Internet (V) - Matt going through it edition
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