Putting Matt Murdock In That Slutty Little Compression Shirt And Black Mask Is, And Will Always Be, The

objectively i understand why kirsten and heather didn’t believe matt when talking about vanessa being responsible for foggy’s death (they’ve been watching him actively spiral for the last few months) but karen just taking him for his word had me soooo emotional

Looking back at episode 4, in addition to Matt Murdock starting to understand Frank Castle’s view on morality due to Foggy’s murder, it looks like Frank is also starting to understand Matt’s viewpoint. Because even though he claims to not care about the Punisher cultist cops, it’s clear that he’s bothered by it. And, of course, Matt’s speech about Foggy’s decency and good character clearly got to Frank.

It’s interesting. Matt is starting to understand why Frank has such a black-and-white view on people. While he wants to believe that there’s good in everyone, there’s people like Bullseye who don’t deserve anyone’s pity. Meanwhile, Frank is starting to understand why Matt tries to see the good in everyone and why he chooses to be a hero. He’s bothered by the legacy he’s creating with the Punisher cult and he understands why Foggy was so important to Matt as a pillar of decency. It’s like he realized at the moment that he was the bad guy. Foggy inspired people to do good, he was inspiring people to do evil.

This almost feels like a continuation of the rooftop scene in DD season 2. But instead of yelling at each other and being all stubborn with their beliefs, they’re coming to an understanding. Now, obviously, this doesn’t mean Matt’s gonna start killing people and Frank is gonna take a vow of non-violence. But the two of them understanding each other and why they believe what they believe is a good angle to develop their characters.

Also, based on the BTS photos, this would explain why they’re fine with teaming up in the latter half of the season. DD season 2 Matt and Frank wouldn’t team up unless they absolutely had to. DDBA Matt and Frank, I can see them tolerating each other more.

“people have bailed on matt his whole life”

“everyone in matthew’s life abandoned him”

KAREN WHEN I CATCH YOU KAREN

matt has NO ONE LEFT

in retrospect it’s very funny that marvel studios allowed matt to be happy and wear flannel and have lunch with jen’s family in she-hulk before putting him through unimaginable horrors in born again 😭

i still think going with the anti vigilante viewpoint in a post avengers endgame new york is fucking insane. do you enjoy getting mugged??? do you enjoy getting killed by aliens?? do you enjoy getting BLIPPED?? like. idk

SOMEONE PLEASE GET THIS MAN SOME SUPERHEALING POWER ASAP

this is so true! i also think it was really hard for frank to see matt like that. like his fire had gone out. he does have respect for daredevil, and seeing him so broken must have been so disconcerting.

even saying all the terrible pointed things he said, you could see how wounded frank was.

No but the way Frank didn’t want Matt to leave, thinking of sth new to say every time he turned to walk out and then looking empty af once Matt actually left??? Frank‘s so damn lonely, sitting in that dark basement surrounded by only guns, hit maps and the memories of his family. 😭

I think the show runners shoved that much content into the last two episodes off ddba so that we’d collectively forget how dumb it was that matt recognized heathers face by touching a painting.

Matt standing in the courtroom staring at the bench like he’s in church and it’s the alter!!!!!

Matt sitting in the gallery like it’s a pew!!!!!!!!!!!!!