If this isn't soulmate material than I don't know what is. She looks so proud š„²š
āBut thatās all right. As long as Iām with you⦠As long as youāre by my side⦠I wonāt give up even if Iām scared.ā
Ā (Pic on pixiv: ćæćŖćØ)
Yuffieās mission in Midgar ended unsuccessfully. Shinra destroyed the base of her allies in Sector 7, she couldnāt get hold of the Ultimate Materia and, most importantly, Sonon died in order to save her.
His death gives a sense of closure to this newly introduced character. Although being quite short, the DLC is full of clever parallels between Yuffie and Melphie, Sonon's younger sister who got killed in front of his eyes during the Wutai war. He failed to save Melphie back then, but he can save Yuffie now.
But the big question is: is Sonon really dead?
The OST playing during the death scene is Seeing Melphie again. After getting stabbed, he has a vision of his little sister (a very touching moment tied to FFVII theme of reunion in the afterlife) accompanied by a bitterweet piano melody, that gets always softer until his last breath. But just when Nero seems to finish Sonon off, instead of mercilessly swallowing him into the darkness, he gently picks him up while the music digresses in an ominious and mysterious tone, hinting that his role may be not over yet.
I think the answer may be deduced diggin a bit into Dirge of Cerberus lore.
There's a not very well known entry related to the main DoC game (especially by the western audience since it had been released only in Japan and for a very short period of time): Dirge of Cerberus Multiplayer on-line. While some of the missions were later included in the international release of DoC, the plot of this game got lost despite its importance for the full understanding of the Deepground dynamics.
Here is a link for an excellent article from thelifestream.net that tries to keep a record of this expired entry, and here's a playlist of cutscenes from the game with English subtitles that helps understanding the main plot (btw, a great YT channel where you can also find localized playthroughs of rarities like DoC Lost Episode and Before Crisis).
Deepground is a top secret facility created by President Shinra and located beneath the slums (remember that underground lab where Cloud, Barret and Tifa went to save Wedge? That's Deepground) where troopers and SOLDIERs - but also unaware civilians - endure severe experimentations that push their bodies and minds to the limit, aiming to create ruthless SOLDIERs with no moral boundaries. The elite DG SOLDIERs are known as Tsviets, like Weiss, Nero, Argento, Shelke, Rosso and Azul. To avoid any rebellion each candidate and Tsviet has a restriction chip implanted in their brain controlled by four Restrictors loyal to President Shinra. This mechanism is particoularly useful to control those Tsviets who don't make a distinction between allies and enemies.
Because of this the Tsviets started to secretly plot against Shinra until they finally understood how to cheat the system. Shelke and Argento found a way to implant a non-working chip in a candidate, so that they could kill the Restrictors. The protagonist of DoC Multiplayer is indeed this candidate (gender and name chosen by the player). Thanks to her special abilities Shelke tricked the candidate into seeing a supporting partner, Usher, who helped them into ranking as a Tsviet, and most importantly she instilled the hatred towards the Restrictors giving to the candidate false memories of a little sister brutally killed by one of them. In the end the candidate managed to kill one of the Restrictors but got stabbed as well. This is the final dialogue of the game:
Weiss: Can this one still be of any use?
Shelke: Negative. The prolonged SND [Synaptic Net Dive] has rendered most of the brain inaccessible. It's only a matter of time before it breaks down completely.
Rosso: Really? After all that hard work. What a shame.
Weiss: Then hurry up and find a suitable replacement. After all no one knows what the Restrictors really look like.
Azul: So we have to find another one? This is becoming frustrating.
Weiss: It can't be helped. Only one out of hundreds can make it this far.
Rosso: Ordinary humans simply aren't as strong as we are.
Weiss: Precisely.
Shelke: Well, it's actually quite simple. With the help of the HJ Virus I am able to hack into Patricia [computer system] and bypass security. Then all that's needed is to pick a suitable subject before it's implanted with the chip.
Weiss: Shelke, find a new one quickly.
The devs had never provided any time reference for the Multiplayer story but now, with Intergrade, we know for sure that the Tsviets are still under Shinra's control when Yuffie and Sonon met Nero on December 12, and, while the President will be killed the next night, it seems clear that Scarlet is the one who will take full control of Deepground until her defeat the next month.
My theory is that Sonon could be the perfect person to replace the Tsviet-candidate and the dead Restrictor, so that Weiss and the gang can pursure their plan of rebellion gainst Shinra:
Unlike many soldiers Sonon has proved to be an extremely strong and capable fighter standing up to Nero.
He has the right motivation as he seeks revenge against Shinra - especially Scarlet - for the death of his younger sister, which Shelke could further manipulate.
Unlike any other Deepground candidate, he has no working restriction chip implanted.
Sure, one could argue that Nero severely wounded him, but the game clearly reminded us before the battle that Nero can easily disintegrate the bodies of his victims, while he reserves a different treatment to this particoular character. And, by the way, this wouldn't even be the first time a Tsviet pretends to kill someone as Shelke did the same with the Tsviet-candidate. As far as I know the main DoC game never explained how the Tsviets overpowered the remaining Restrictors, who replaced the Tsviet-candidate or what happened to Argento - who isn't part of the DoC cast. Sonon might be the missing piece of this sub-plot that may lead to new secondary arcs that could tie a bit more Deepground to the main FFVII story.
Iāll be going now. Iāll come back when itās all over.
FFVII Original Game, Advent Children (sequel), and Crisis Core (prequel) are written by Kazushige Nojimaā¦. so itās not surprised to see how he wrote both pairings in similar way as I found these parallels:
Zack and Aerith
The two characters deeply involved with Aerith were Zack, who would become her lover (koibito), and Tseng, her guardian.Ā (CC: FFVII Complete Guide)
One day, Zack is suddenly landed in a church in the slum. His cheerfulness and dependability capture Aerithās heart and theyāre being in a (koibito) lovers-like relationship. Although they can only see each other periodically, their thoughts keep them close in spirit. (Aerithās profile, CC: FFVII Ultimania, pg. 22)
Cloud and Tifa
āIs Tifa your girlfriend (koibito)?ā (Aerith asking Cloud, FFVII Remake Chapter 8)
There are many dimensions to Tifaās character. Sheās like a mother, alsoĀ a sweetheart (koibito), and a close ally in battle (Advent Children Reunion Files book, pg. 19~ Nomuraās interview)
Aerith about 16 years old Zack:Ā
āHeās strong, kinda funny, and thereās something special about him.āĀ (Crisis Core Chapter 5 - First Date)Ā
Tifa about 14 years old Cloud:Ā
āYou were so small then ⦠and cute.āĀ (Original Game scene 116 - Cloud Dark Past)Ā
Zack and Aerith
For when they meet again on their next date, Zackās specific suggestion was Aerith wearing pink. Aerithāwho continued to wait for Zackās returnāstarts to wear pink after making this promise (CC: FFVII Complete GuideāKeyword Collection)
Cloud and Tifa
Believing in Cloudās promise, Tifaās waiting to see Cloud become a SOLDIER like Sephiroth. Tifa dresses herself in a pretty and sexy look. Does she do that to spirit up herself in preparing for a touching reunion? (Tifa Lockhart Character Profile from CC: FFVII Ultimania)
Zerith: Aerith asked Cloud about Zack in SOLDIER in the Playground (FF7 Remake)
āDid you have any SOLDIER friends? Any war buddies? So Cloud, you were SOLDIER 1st Class, right? Weird. Just that you were in the same rank with the first guy I ever loved.ā
Cloti: Tifa asked Zack about Cloud in SOLDIER via mails (Crisis Core)
āAre there any blond guys in SOLDIER? Ā Well, itās just a dream⦠Any girl would love to have a blond SOLDIER guy protect her when sheās in a pinch. I almost forgot. Please donāt tell anyone in SOLDIER that I asked about the blond guy. Okay?āĀ
Zack and Aerith ā the cloudy & azure sky
Zack think of Aerith:Ā āI wish I could show this sky toā¦ā (Crisis Core DMWĀ Cloud Scene #4: Cloudy Sky)
Aerith think of Zack: āHe was like a cloud drifting through the skies. As we peered skyward through the rafters of a heavenless Midgar, we made a promise. And that was the last time we spoke.āĀ (Crisis Core 1st Official Trailer)
Cloud and Tifa ā the starry & night sky
Cloud think of Tifa: āI was just thinking about the past.āĀ (Crisis Core DMW Cloud Scene #3: Starry Night At The Well)
Tifa think of Cloud: āLike the sky that night, the heavens were filled with stars. Did you imagine the sky? The stars were gorgeous. It was just Cloud and I. We talked at the well.āĀ Ā (Original Game scene 116 - Cloudās Dark Past)
Zack and Aerith āĀ CC Chapter 013: I Promise
Aerith: Hello⦠(calling by phone) Zack: Aerith! Aerith: Finally, got through to you! Zack: Ah, sorry about this but Iām in the middle of something right now. Iāll Ā give you a call a little later . Aerith: No. itās okay. You donāt have to. Zack: I understand. Iāll come visit. Aerith: Iāll be waiting. Zack: IāIl see you. Itās a promise.
Cloud and Tifa āĀ OG scene 6: A Childhood Promise
Tifa: You said you wanna tell me something. Cloud: This summer⦠I wanna leave this town to Midgar. I wanna join SOLDIER⦠like Sephiroth. Tifa: Is it tough being SOLDIER, isnāt it? Cloud: Yeah, I probably could not go back to this town for a while. Tifa: Hey, why donāt we make a promise? Mmm⦠if you really get famous and Iām ever in a bind, youāll come save me, alright? Whenever Ā Iām in a trouble, my hero will come rescue me. Cloud: Alright, I promise.
Zack and Aerith ā CC Chapter 8: 23 Little Luxuries
Aerith: āWhen you come back from your assignment, letās go sell flowers under the sky together. I wonāt be afraid if youāre with me.ā
Zack: āYeah, Iāll go with you. Thatās a promise.ā
Cloud and Tifa ā OG Scene 136: Understanding
Tifa: āBut, itās alright even if no one comes back. As long as Iām with you⦠As long as youāre by my side⦠I wonāt give up even if Iām scared.ā
Cloud: āAfterall, I promised. That if anything were to ever happen to you, I would come to help.ā
Zack and Aerith
Zack and Aerith meet by chance in a church in the Slums. They become intimate with each other. (FFVII 10th Anniversary Ultimania Compilation Timeline)
From the boyās profile
Having fallen into the sector 5 slum church during a mission, Zack has a fateful meeting with Aerith, a young girl who was tending to flowers in the church. They share a āpuratonikku koiā / chaste romantic love, satisfied just to be together. Those joyous days seemed like they would last forever⦠(Zackās Profile, CC: FFVII Ultimania, pg. 13)
From the girlās profile
CC shows her meeting and relationship with Zack, and the budding love between them. However, fate would tear the couple apart. (Aerithās Dengeki Profile)
At that chosen day, she accidentally met Zack, SOLDIER 1st Class, and they were attracted to each other. (Aerithās Profile, FFVII 10th Anniversary Ultimania)
The destined encounter with Zack makes them becomes the irreplaceable existence to each other.Ā (Aerithās profile, CC: FFVII Ultimania)
His cheerfulness and dependability capture Aerithās heart and theyāre being in a lovers-like relationship. (Aerithās profile, CC: FFVII Ultimania)
Cloud and Tifa
When their companions disperse to the places where people important to them await, Cloud and Tifa, who remain, reveal their feelings for each other together.Ā (FFVII Ultimania Omega, pg. 198; story summary)
When Cloud and Tifa remain behind alone, in their final hours, together they disclose their feelings for each other. (FF 20th Anniversary Ultimania File 2: Scenario guide, FFVII Story Summary, pg. 232)Ā Ā
From the boyās profile
Declares that the team should dissolve in the final hours before the final battle, and communicates his feelings together with Tifa, who remains behind at the airship with him. (Cloudās Profile, FFVII Ultimania Omega, pg. 15)
From the girlās profileĀ
She ventured into Lifestream together with Cloud. Amidst the course of him trying to ascertain his memories, they became aware of the thoughts/feelings which each other was holding. (Tifaās Profile, FFVII 10th Anniversary Ultimania. pg. 42-47)
In FF7, Tifa is the only one who knows Cloudās childhood, and furthermore, she holds the key to people involved in the story of Nibelheimās burning down, which is also depicted in CC. She and Cloud came to realize their feelings for each other in the end of the story, and live together in AC and DC.(CC:FFVII Ultimania, Tifa Lockhart Profile)
For many years, Cloud and Tifa have been holding favor for one another. At last facing the impending final battle with Sephiroth, they confirm together their feelings of desire toward partnership. (Tifaās Profile, FF 25th Memorial Ultimania)
Zack and Aerith ā Afterlife
Zack Profile in FFVII 10th Anniversary Ultimania: In order to help Cloud recover, he assured him from the Lifestream together with Aerith.
Aerith Profile in ACC Dengeki: She joined the Lifestream, but even then she carries on watching over the planet and Cloud. At all times, her first love Zack is always by her side.
Both are mentioned:Ā ā¦She starts to leave, together with the friend who had given his life to Cloud. Cloud no longer has to suffer in loneliness. And so they too go back to where they belong. Back to the current of life flowing around the planet.Ā (FFVII 10th Anniversary UltimaniaāRevised Edition, ACC Playback)
Cloud and Tifa ā Living World
Cloud Profile in FFVII 10th Anniversary Ultimania: With the help of his friends, he defeated Bahamut SHIN, which Kadajās gang had summoned. He defeated Sephiroth after his Advent, and returned to Tifa and the children.
Tifa Profile in ACC Dengeki: At the end of a long struggle, she gently welcomes back Cloud on his return home after settling things with himself.
Both are mentioned: āInside, I felt one thing was for sure: Cloud and Tifa would be together. Everybody would be living back home where they belonged.āĀ (Kazushige Nojima-the scriptwriter, Advent Children Reunion Files book)
Zack and Aerith described in ACC
For Cloud, they were people whom he can never forget. The two irreplaceable people; Zack, āwho was sent to death because protecting meā and Aerith, āwho met a tragic fate as I couldnāt protect herā became āthe unforgivable sinsā in his heart.
(Advent Children Complete Post Card Book)
Cloud and Tifa described in CC
Cloud and Tifa are childhood friends, both born in Nibelheim. When Cloud leaves the village, he calls Tifa out to the water tower and promises that he will become a SOLDIER. At the same time, he is also made by Tifa to promise that he will come to rescue her if she is ever in trouble.
Following this, the pair experience many hardships, such as the Nibelheim incident which also appears in CC, and the Jenova War in FFVII, and through these the distance between them shortens. And in AC they live together, with Barretās daughter Marlene, and a boy named Denzel. Though there was also a period later where Cloud lived away from them after having contracted Geostigma, they finally reach a commune with each over and return to living together once again. In DC, they rush together to Vincentās aid, in his battle against Deep Ground SOLDIER.
(CC:FFVII Complete Guide Book)
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Truth
Totally agree!
The English localization is the audible reference language for almost all the non-Japanese speaker players (and the only one besides Japanese with specific lip-sync), it's absurd even to think that a professional company could make arbitrary changes without consulting the game developers and get away with it.
What are your thoughts on final fantasy 7 remake's localization
I enjoyed it! Both the Remake and IntermissionāYuffie's VA soared and I really like how they captured her characterization.
There's a pool of people in the fandom who have contention with it (some of which comes with A LOT of misunderstandings about localization, in general, but that's a lot of other branched conversations), but if I'm just speaking on the "what" [the content]āoverall how the developers handled the ENG localization was pretty good and enjoyable. Most of what comes to mind makes sense contextually, and even after comparing it to the JPN (which I enjoy too, the VAs are as great as usual since they didn't really change), you can find the differences and common ground between them. In some scenes you have your typical levels of "different branches from the same tree" or "different part of the same branch" in direction, but overall the script still captures the same tonality and excitement of the JPN version. There are some VAs I know people didn't like at first (like Zack), but he's grown on me now. Otherwise, everyone is excellent to my ears.
It was a long wait, but I'm glad we're finally in the era of the remake of this game.
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