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8 months ago

i actually think there's some significance in the fact that mithrun wears oversized shirt with open collar (it most likely belongs to laios) in the final arc of the manga. i mean, not just that kui simply wanted to draw him in oversized clothes, lol.

in all instances we see young (pre-dungeon) mithrun he's wearing clothes that hide his body as much as possible. which seems normal, until you see what other elves prefer to wear: most of them wear light short tunics with no sleeves and they don't usually even wear pants. here's a comparison to his brother's outfit, for example, as they stand next to each other.

[ID] a manga panel from dunmeshi adventurer's bible depicting young mithrun and his brother standing next to each other. his brother talks about a person he likes (an elf with a long braid and forehead ornament). mithrun stands with his arms crossed, smiling. mithrun wears a tunic with high collar and long sleeves. his brother wears light sleeveless tunic with open collar and has a mobility aid. mithrun's narration says: "the fact that i had to respect him as an older brother despite him being inferior in every way... the fact that he was in love with someone way out of his league... the fact that my parents sent me to to the canaries instead of him... i couldn't forgive any of it" [End ID]

it's not like his fashion choices are unique, but it certainly feels deliberate. he doesn't add any variation to his canary's uniform either, but that's not especially notable, i guess, because a lot of canaries don't do that (i mean, it's still their armor).

but in his perfect world he's also one of the few who always wears this type of clothes. never revealing himself. sitting a little further from everyone else.

[ID] a manga panel from dunmeshi depicting mithrun and his friends from the time when he was a dungeon lord. they all sit at the table, talking. his friends wear variety of clothes, mostly light sleeveless tunics. mithrun sits with his arm crossed, wearing a tumic with high collar and long sleeves [End ID]
[ID] a manga panel from dunmeshi depicting mithrun from the time when he was a dungeon lord. next to him is the demon in a form of small goat. mithrun sits on the floor with sad expression, covered in cartoonish medical plasters. he wears  tunic with high collar, light pants and boots [End ID]

he even lies in his bed fully clothed, like he can't ever bring himself to let his guard down, never showing his "true" skin to anyone.

[ID] a manga panel from dunmeshi depicting mithrun and his romantic partner from the time when he was a dungeon lord. mithrun lies in his fancy bed under a blanket fully clothed (he wears the same high collar tunic). his partner is chimera: an elf with a long braid and the body of a snake. they sit next to his bed with their eyes closed [End ID]

btw notice that his bed is a single bed, even though he's been living with his partner for 5 years at that point.

and that's the idea, isn't it? he never lets himself be truly vulnerable with anyone, even in his dungeon, where people are supposed to like him unconditionally. i think it adds something to the horrible scene with the demon: it's especially disturbing that the demon literally doesn't care how much of yourself you wanna hide, it sees (and eats) right through every protective layer. and we all know what the allegory of this scene is.

when mithrun loses all his desires, he no longer cares what clothes he wears. and in some twisted metaphorical sense it's heartbreaking to see him in a simple elven tunic when he's recovering, the one that doesn't hide any of his injuries or scars or terrible physique.

[ID] a cropped-out image from daydream hour collection depicting mithrun in his recovery period. he look malnourished and apathetic, his hairs is long and unkempt. he wears nothing but a short sleeveless tunic, somilar to hospital gown. his body is covered with scars. his left eye is covered with bandages, small patch of blood is visible where his eye supposed to be [End ID]

he doesn't care to hide himself anymore, but it isn't on his own volition. it's something that was ripped away from him, as well as his privacy (a lot of people have to go through this when they're in medical care actually).

when he recovers and enlists to canaries again, he starts to wear full uniform again, but i don't think it holds much significance to him anymore. or at least he thinks it doesn't. we can see that cithis forces him to wear frilly dress at some point and it's implied that he goes along with it (cithis is still an asshole for that btw).

at this point he's fully focused on finding the demon, but i think the sad reality is that he's always been capable of developing new desires. i'd argue that there are already some things he cares about without realizing it, in the main story. but what's stopping him from actually realizing it at that point is that he's clinically depressed. his disability makes his life difficult; he lives with the idea that he's completely "broken", he accepted the reality of living like that and always goes along with what others make him do. so, he doesn't believe in his own privacy anymore. it’s actually something kabru talks about in the adventurer’s bible comic, when he tries to help mithrun to figure it out again, to help him see the value of privacy, of choosing what he wanna reveal of himself. mithrun needed a reminder that he still has this choice like anybody else.

[ID] a few manga panels from dunmeshi adventurer's bible. panel 1: kabru wipes off sweat from his forehead and says: "if we condense the story like so... then i think it will do a better job letting people know the dangers of demons"
panel 2: mithrun's holding a perfectly round shiny rock in his hand. there's a caption on the rock that says "my past"
panel 3: mithrun looks at the rock and says: "you've formed it into a nice little shape, huh?" kabru answers: "it's better that way"
panel 4: kabru says with serious face: "there's no need for you to tell anyone and everyone the personal details of your life".
panel 5: mithrun looks pensive, his fist is closed around the rock now
panel 6: kabru asks: "how have you and your brother been getting along since then?". mithrun answers "quite well" [End ID]

i think the scene where kabru asks him about his past for the first time is interesting in that sense. first of all, i like the symbolism of kabru unbuttoning mithrun’s collar and cuffs, revealing the scars underneath (a good amount of them is self-inflicted). he does so unthinkingly, but in his defence he doesn't know anything about mithrun yet. another interesting thing is that the first reaction mithrun has is covering his eyes with his hands. he's trying to hide. he supposedly has no desire to hide, but this reaction is almost instinctual to him. i think kabru notices this as well (of course he does) and i think it's one of the things that prompts him to voice his concerns about mithrun's privacy later. 

[ID] a few manga panels from dunmeshi. 
panel 1: mithrun lies in his sleeping bag, looking sweaty and sick. he says "...you're an inquisitive one, aren't you? a personality trait like that is bound to get you killed in this dungeon".
panel 2: kabru looks at mithrun with irritation. a small text next to him says "whatever, just tell me"
panel 3: mithrun covers his eyes with his hands. he says "...i was..."
[End ID]

so, what about that laios' shirt he wears in the final arc of the comic? he has to change his uniform's shirt for something else because it's covered in spider's guts. it's unclear if someone puts laios' shirt on him or if it's something he chooses to wear himself. regardless, it's still symbolic for his change. it's not particularly revealing or anything, but it's different from the type of clothes he usually wears, and it's tallman clothes. and in this final arc we can see a lot of his true feelings as well. he's visibly mad at kabru, he shows concern and tries to help marcille, he helps kabru to break out of his spiral. and obviously, in chapter 94 he reveals a lot of what he actually feels and think and shows genuine emotions other than anger. and I think it’s the first time he decided to be open and vulnerable on his own volition, probably in his entire life.

[ID] two manga panels from dunmeshi. 
panel 1: mithrun in the frame, looking sad, there's a tear in his right eye.  he says "was for it to finish devouring me"
panel 2: an image of a plate with leftovers. mithrun says "the last bite remaining on a plate. the vegetable scraps left on a cutting board. that's what i was"
panel 1: [End ID]

we can see him wearing variety of clothes post-canon and it’s ambiguous how much of it he picked for himself. pattadol probably helps him a lot with choosing outfits and she also prefers high collars. but mithrun knows he can choose now; even if he doesn’t want anything in particular, he always can express his opinion or feeling, like he did with kabru’s food. he always can choose how much he wants to be seen. i’m just glad to see him wearing similar shirt with open collar and rolled-up sleeves on the cover of daydream hour book.

[ID] a cropped-out image from the cover of daydream hour book, depicting mithrun and pattadol. mithrun stands with a wineglass in his hand, wearing a light tunic with open collar and rolled up sleeves, as well as tight pants and boots. part of the tunic is tied on the side in a fancy knot. pattadol is holding out her hand, clearly inviting him to dance. she wears a long tunic and pants, her sleeves are also rolled up. [End ID]
1 year ago
Crispy With Some Sbs Characters Because God He’s Been Taking Over My Brain. I’m So Normal (lie) I

crispy with some sbs characters because God he’s been taking over my brain. i’m so normal (lie) i like to draw him teeeheehe eeheee i’ll probably post more soon i Love him

8 months ago
Playing With The Leftovers Is Your Fate!! (♪)

playing with the leftovers is your fate!! (♪)

1 year ago

Stop the hate

Eyyy I see some of y'all hatin on the earth gems. Especially on Sensei, Cinnabar, and Bortz, and Euclase.

I know you’re all like “Phos just wants for all the dust gems to come back, and he also wants everyone to be happy.” But he also destroys others in the process.

Antarcticite was taken because of him, the Amethyst twins were almost taken because of him too, Ghost was chipped off because of him, Bortz lost his hair, Cairngorm is now in a toxic relationship with Fuckmea, started a war with the earth gems, caused Rutile to go insane for taking Padparadscha, Yellow is now more depressed than ever, and other shiz.

The gems can’t see a good thing that Phos has done.

8 months ago

might be a bit odd or a stretch and written poorly by me (sorry if its rambly basically) but mithrun has such interesting but devastating symbolism and importance for a message in dunmeshi.

(TW SA/ABUSE MENTIONS)

the goat (demon) being an abusive relationship that to you who is in it only sees a nice perfect person doing anything for you, only for things to slowly get worse and worse… leading to SA (it’s not actual SA but the imagery has subtle implications of it) and other forms of physical and psychological abuse.

Might Be A Bit Odd Or A Stretch And Written Poorly By Me (sorry If Its Rambly Basically) But Mithrun

this leaving mithrun in an intense state of depression, ptsd and other issues like getting mana sickness really easily, which is also connected to the physical disabilities he got from said abuse. and due to these states he finds he can not desire anything anymore, he can only feel empty, not even a desire to get help and only feels a strong anger to the person and tries to prevent anyone else from going through the same.

Might Be A Bit Odd Or A Stretch And Written Poorly By Me (sorry If Its Rambly Basically) But Mithrun
Might Be A Bit Odd Or A Stretch And Written Poorly By Me (sorry If Its Rambly Basically) But Mithrun

but he’s not a lost cause.

“so.. even vegetable scraps have their uses, huh?”

he blames himself for his trauma, he sees himself as worthless and not one to be desired anymore because of what he went through. and realizing this, realizing that he actually has grown a desire to BE desired even just in a simple way to be needed (helping with falin) he finally can crack through that depression. the ptsd is still there, the physical disabilities are still there, but through surrounding himself with community of people with different views and trauma has helped him realize he is not broken and shouldn’t be blaming himself for something that was out of his control.

Might Be A Bit Odd Or A Stretch And Written Poorly By Me (sorry If Its Rambly Basically) But Mithrun

he wants to do new things, he wants to live now and it’s so beautiful to see.

Might Be A Bit Odd Or A Stretch And Written Poorly By Me (sorry If Its Rambly Basically) But Mithrun

plus, as kabru says here how the desires being eaten is not what it seems like is such an interesting fact. sure the demon ate his desires he had in that moment, making him believe he could never desire again but in fact he could get new desires (change/grow/heal) plus, traveling with kabru, he did show desires whether they be small or not.

in this moment he showed full horror about this memory. now if he was loss of desire, then he shouldn’t even desire to feel fear about this right? shouldn’t he only feel anger due to the revenge? which once again, shows his whole healing journey.

Might Be A Bit Odd Or A Stretch And Written Poorly By Me (sorry If Its Rambly Basically) But Mithrun

he’s such a great character with so much representation, and in turn is also a character that can show hope for someone like thistle who now is going through similar things and is practically hospitalized.

there is hope, you will heal, you are gonna be okay and your trauma is real but it does not shape you as a person, you are safe now.

dunmeshi is such a great depiction of that

Might Be A Bit Odd Or A Stretch And Written Poorly By Me (sorry If Its Rambly Basically) But Mithrun
Might Be A Bit Odd Or A Stretch And Written Poorly By Me (sorry If Its Rambly Basically) But Mithrun
Might Be A Bit Odd Or A Stretch And Written Poorly By Me (sorry If Its Rambly Basically) But Mithrun
Might Be A Bit Odd Or A Stretch And Written Poorly By Me (sorry If Its Rambly Basically) But Mithrun
8 months ago

Mithrun's desire as an SA analogue

TW discussion of SA and detailed breakdown of aesthetics evoking SA. The way I discuss this is vivid in a way that may be triggering, though there is no discussion of actual sexual assault. Just survivor's responses to it.

People relate to Mithrun and see his condition as an analogue for a few different things, like brain injury or depression. And I think all of them are there. But I also see Mithrun's story as an SA analogue, and Ryoko Kui intentionally evokes those aesthetics. I think it's a part of Mithrun's character that a lot of people miss, but I very much consider it text. This is partially inspired by @heird99's post on what makes this scene so disturbing; so check out their post, too :)

Mithrun's Desire As An SA Analogue

So to start off with, the demon invades Mithrun's bed, specifically. There's even a canopy around it, which specifically evokes this idea of personal intrusion; the barrier is being pulled apart without consent or warning. The way the hand reaches towards Mithrun's body from outside of the panel division makes it almost look like the goat stroking over his body. It's an especially creepy visual detail; similarly, the goat's right hand parts into the side of the panel as well. It's literally like it's tearing the page apart; but gently. So gently.

Mithrun is in bed. It is his bed that the demon is intruding on. He's in a position of intimacy. The woman behind him is a facsimile of his "beloved" that he left behind; the woman who, in reality, chose Mithrun's brother. He is in bed with his fantasy lover, who is leaning over him. While this scene isn't explicitly sexual, it is intimate. And it is being invaded. The goat lifts Mithrun gently, who is confused, but not yet struggling.

Mithrun's Desire As An SA Analogue

The erotics of consumption and violence in Ryoko Kui's work(remember that the word 'erotic' can have many different meanings, please) are a... notable part of some of her illustrations. I would say she blurs the lines between all forms of desire: personal, sexual, gustatory and carnal, in her illustrations in order to emphasize the pure desire she wants to work with and evoke to serve her themes. Kui deploys sexual imagery in a lot of places in Dungeon Meshi, and this is one of them.

In this case, horrifically. The goat's assault begins with drooling, licking, and nuzzling. The goat could be enjoying and "playing with" its food. But it can also be interpreted as it "preparing" Mithrun with its tongue as it begins to literally breach Mithrun's body. The goat also invades directly through his clothing; that adds another level of disturbing to me. There's nothing Mithrun can do in this moment of violation. Mithrun is fighting, but he is fighting weakly, trying to grip on and push away when he has no ability or option to. All he can do is beg the goat to stop. And it doesn't care. This all evokes sexual assault.

The sixth panel demonstrates a somewhat sexual position, with Mithrun's thighs spread around the goat's hunched over body. In the next, the goat pulls and holds apart Mithrun's thighs as he nuzzles into him. The way the clothing bunches up looks a bit as if it has been pushed up. It has pinned Mithrun down onto the bed, into Mithrun's soft furs and pillows. It takes a place made to be supernaturally warm and comfortable, and violates it. It's utterly and intimately horrifying. To me, this sequence of positions directly evokes a rape scene. I think Kui did this very explicitly. These references to sexual invasion are part of what makes this scene so disturbing; albeit, to many viewers, subconsciously.

This is also the moment the goat takes Mithrun's eye. Other than this, the goat seems exceptionally strong, but also... gentle. It holds Mithrun's body tightly, but moves it around slowly. It doesn't need to hurt Mithrun physically. But in that moment, it takes Mithrun's eye. Blood seeps from a wound while an orifice that should not be pierced is penetrated. This moment, the ooze of blood in one place specifically, also evokes rape. That single bit of physical gore is a very powerful bit of imagery to me.

Finally; it is Mithrun's desire that is eaten. After his assault, Mithrun can find no pleasure in things that he once did. He is fully disassociated from his emotions. This is a common response to trauma, especially in the case of SA. It's not uncommon for people to never, or take a long time to, enjoy sex in the same way again; or at all. They might feel like their rapist has robbed them of a desire and pleasure they once had. I think this makes Mithrun's lack of desire a partial analogue for the trauma of sexual assault.

Mithrun's desire for revenge was, supposedly, all that remained. Anger at his assaulter, anger at every being that was like it; though, perhaps not anger. Devotion, in a way. To his cause. I don't know. But the immediate desire to seek revenge is another response to SA. But on to Mithrun's true feelings on the matter.

Mithrun's Desire As An SA Analogue
Mithrun's Desire As An SA Analogue

This is... So incredibly tragic. Mithrun feels used up. Like his best parts have been taken away. Like he's being... tossed aside. This certainly parallels the way assault victims can feel after being left by an abuser. Or the way assault victims feel they might be "ruined" forever for other partners. These are common sentiments for survivors to carry, and need to overcome. In the text, it's almost like Mithrun feels the only being who can desire him is a demon who might "finish devouring" him. That that's his only use. It's worth noting that Mithrun trusted the demon. Mithrun's world was built by the demon, and Mithrun, in that way, was cared for by the demon. I think this reinforces Mithrun's place as a victim.

There's also something to be said about Mithrun as a victim of his own possessive romantic and sexual desire. The mirror shows him his beloved just dining with his brother, and it infuriates him. He doesn't know if the vision is real, nor if she has really chosen his brother as a romantic partner. The goat then creates a whole fantasy world where she loves him. As Mithrun's dungeon deteriorates, she is the only person that continues to exist. Mithrun continues to have control over her. And that is the strongest desire the demon is eating, isn't it? There's something interesting there, but I don't know what to say about it.

In conclusion, I think Mithrun's story is an explicit analogue for sexual assault-- though, certainly, among other things! The way the scene plays out and is composed explicitly references sexual violation and invasion of the body. His condition mirrors common trauma responses to sexual violence. And, at the end, he finally realizes he can recover.

Mithrun's Desire As An SA Analogue

Let's end on a happy Mithrun, after taking the first step on his journey to recovery :) You aren't vegetable scraps Mithrun. But even if you were-- every single thing in this world has value. Even vegetable scraps.

1 year ago

One of my main problems with Honey I'm Home and its lore is: We get these gorgeous designs, many of them diverse and interesting and fun to look at... and then they get sidelined by both fans and Ghost themself for yet another edgy white boy. I'm not saying that any of Ghost's stories are bad just because they have white protagonists, but it just seems so frequent that they direct the most attention to their white characters and make them either protagonists or the 'Cool Bad Guys'- (1/2)

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That’s an interesting take, anon! I hate HIH for different reasons than yours, but hearing your perspective on it was definitely something I hadn’t considered about the lore and characters

And yeah I’m with you on the whole diversity thing. It’s like, take a look at all of GHOST’s characters pre-HIH:

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(And this isn’t even counting the mascots for their other songs)

Then there’s the Honey I’m Home cast:

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And boy, now you’ve got me wondering how many fans of HIH saw this cast of characters and thought, “Wow! A lot of POC characters in one of GHOST’s new stories, finally!” only for literally most of the attention to be drawn to Norman and Charon

Just... wow. That’s gotta suck. I’m sorry to hear that you feel left out because of that, anon.

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