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Cody

i think the reason Commander Cody’s character is often undersold is because his story isn’t ever told in any one story. his screentime in tcw is low, but meaningful, his appearances in comics are incredible, but overlooked, he isn’t touched on much in RotS, but his personality is still super obvious there, and he’s only in one episode of Bad Batch, but he quite literally changed the entire course of the season with his short amount of time. all of it is rich and shows how much he cares about the people around him and that’s what makes him such a great character. he doesn’t need hours of time to make a difference in the other characters around him, he does that naturally no matter what

Post-Order 66 Clone Thoughts

(Minor ROTS, TCW, and TBB spoilers)

I’ve been trying to wrap my brain around what canon is now showing the “inhibitor chip” actually does, and I decided to make it everyone’s problem.

In almost every fic I’ve read that portrays still-chipped clones after Order 66, the authors show the clones as losing most, if not all, of their free will. Most authors don’t have them use their names anymore, going only by designation again, which is understandable to get across the idea that they’re “droids” at that point made up only of their training.

And then we have TBB showing us chipped clones after Order 66. Crosshair is the first one that we see in an individual manner who has an activated chip. Now with season 2 we have another example we’re familiar with from the pre-Order 66 timeframe in Cody.

With both Crosshair and Cody, some of the assumptions that fanfic writers have been making fly out the window. They still go by their chosen names, at least with other clones. They still act like themselves in every regard except the Jedi. They act like individuals, not droids or a hive mind connected by the chip.

That brings up thoughts on what the chips actually do. Writers, and fandom as a whole, seem to have been assuming for years (since TCW season 6) that the chip took away all free will and critical thinking skills. Canon and fanon both infer that the transmission of the Order was near simultaneous, which is difficult but could be done with more advanced tech than what we have. Most of fandom also assumes that the chips were dormant until Order 66.

I accepted all that until TBB because yeah, why else would they fire on the Jedi, even the younglings, with absolutely no hesitation. Why else did none of the clones (except our “defective” 99s) protest the Order? It made sense.

Now that TBB is showing us that wasn’t the case, I have Thoughts and Questions related to the deployment of Order 66 how it affected the clones.

How long were the chips actually active?

We know the command “Execute Order 66” caused an automatic reaction at least within the immediate hearing range of the order. We can infer, from how clones not within hearing distance reacted to the actions of those taking down Jedi, that there was some sort of signal that transmitted from chip to chip at an insanely fast rate.

But then there’s Tup. Tup never received a verbal activation, even though the way everyone described the incident is that his chip was “activated.”

I have a degree in telecommunications and a husband with a degree in radio frequency engineering. We’ve talked it over, and even given the supposed technological advances that would allow for near-instant transmission, the chip(s) of the clone(s) who heard the order would need to be actively processing information to transmit to the others, and the receiving chips would need to be active enough to at least passively receive the transmission.

Now we also know from canon that clones with an active chip don’t really act much different than those without one in terms of remembering who they are and the decisions they make except in specific circumstances dictated by the chip. We also know, from TCW, that the clones had nightmares about what Order 66 would make them do.

To me, that added to the need to have active chips to transmit and receive Order 66, points to the chips always having been active and affecting the clones their whole lives. This brings a level of horror to things because what other orders are the clones acting under without even knowing it?

How did the chips actually work?

If we go off the assumption that the chips were always active, that rules out the “taking them over completely” and “erasing their personalities” theories. TBB shows us, between Crosshair and Cody, that just isn’t the case at all.

Crosshair is still a prickly asshole and answers to his name. He becomes a bit more “by the books” than we saw him in TCW, but that’s just in relation to the Jedi. He didn’t particularly care one way or the other about the Republic in TCW (that I remember), but he did become at least initially fanatically loyal to the Empire, similar to the other chipped clones.

Cody also apparently answers to his name. He’s still a competent commander, which I don’t think he could be if all of his independent thinking was taken away. And we see him questioning the Empire the same way he questioned some of the Republic’s decisions in TCW. That questioning leads to him defecting.

So from that I have to assume that either the control of the chip is deteriorating, which it seems a lot of authors do, or the chip’s control isn’t absolute. Maybe in the moment directly after receiving the order it is, but however it works allows the clones to question if that’s in their nature. So it hasn’t taken over all of their thought processes.

Was the immediate reaction during Order 66 a combination of chip and flash training?

We know the clones received flash training in a lot of things. Prior to TCW season 6, most of fandom was under the assumption that flash training/brain washing was what led to the clones’ apparent easy and immediate acceptance of killing the Jedi (even younglings), despite them having good working relationships and even some friendships (and fans, including me, like to assume more) with most of the Jedi. Normal, sane people don’t fight a war for three years with someone, living in ships that are basically small towns, without having at least a twinge of regret upon being ordered to execute them.

Then the chips are brought up and fandom went “Oooh, mind control. Got it.” Fandom was already assuming mind control, through the flash training, but a chip in someone’s brain that can make them do what Tup did makes a lot more sense. Chips in brain = control.

Yet now canon is establishing that the control isn’t quite that complete. Even Rex in TCW season 7 showed that, with knowledge of the chip, it could be fought off for a few moments, long enough to get a warning out. So if it’s not complete mind control, making them thoughtless, emotionless meatdroids, why didn’t anyone else fight it?

I think flash training plus the chip is the answer, and I don’t think the flash training was just “this is what to do when you receive this particular order”. Nothing Sidious did was that straightforward, and even though Dooku was the contact, this has Sidious’s oily fingerprints all over it.

The question would be, what did the flash training entail that would cause an immediate reaction to the Order 66 activation? How long was it supposed to last? Did the chip suppress emotional reactions to their actions, and did the flash training emphasize that?

Still. So. Many. Questions.

i miss cody. where is he. is he well

medieval star wars by jake bartok - scenes

i think people forget too often.

the domino twins were just as much cody's boys as they were rex's

Qui-Gon: *had to bring kiddo Kenobi to a meeting*

Obi-Wan: *squished into a chair next to Yoda and taking a light nap*

Yoda: :)

Qui-Gon: *fighting with the council over his latest mission*

Mace: You see these premature wrinkles on my forehead? That’s all cause if you and your bullshit, Jinn!

Obi-Wan: *wakes up and blinks sleepily at him* They don’t look very premature to me. *falls back asleep*

Mace: >:(

Qui-Gon: …*collects his sleeping Padawan off the Grandmaster and beats a retreat* nvm we can talk about this later I should put him to bed-

Yoda: :( took my seat warmer, he did.

Mace: Ugh, I hate both of you.

Yoda: My grandbaby, stolen.

Mace: I’ll get you a new one. That one’s trouble.

Yoda: Like that one, I do :(

Mace: I know.

i think the reason Commander Cody’s character is often undersold is because his story isn’t ever told in any one story. his screentime in tcw is low, but meaningful, his appearances in comics are incredible, but overlooked, he isn’t touched on much in RotS, but his personality is still super obvious there, and he’s only in one episode of Bad Batch, but he quite literally changed the entire course of the season with his short amount of time. all of it is rich and shows how much he cares about the people around him and that’s what makes him such a great character. he doesn’t need hours of time to make a difference in the other characters around him, he does that naturally no matter what

I'm ngl, every single person who posts abt the clones in The Clone Wars is loterally a master gaslighter, but by accident like, I started watching this series fully convinced I was going to see elaborate character arcs for all these people what do you MEAN Cody doesnt even have his own arc dedicated to him????????

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destroyed by Commander Cody and how he had a mind control chip in his brain and yet he stayed soft. he lost every single thing that ever mattered to him in one fell swoop and he didn’t stop caring about his brothers or the citizens he’s supposed to protect.

he thinks he did Order 66 on purpose and he still chooses every single day to be a good person and to be better than that because that’s who he is. he’s good to the bone and he always has been and always will be. no matter what. it’s his core trait. and nothing can take that away no matter how hard someone tries. i’m in pain

It’s here. It’s yours, it’s mine, it’s ours. It’s an album I wrote alone about the whims, fantasies, heartaches, dramas and tragedies I lived out as a young woman between 18 and 20. I remember making tracklist after tracklist, obsessing over the right way to tell the story. I had to be ruthless with my choices, and I left behind some songs I am still unfailingly proud of now. Therefore, you have 6 From The Vault tracks! I recorded this album when I was 32 (and still growing up, now) and the memories it brought back filled me with nostalgia and appreciation. For life, for you, for the fact that I get to reclaim my work. Thank you a million times, for the memories that break our fall. 💥🐉🏰  Speak Now (MY VERSION!) is out now. 

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PC: Beth Garrabrant 

leia and her uncle cody would be the most powerful team up in Star Wars history, change my mind

Waxer and Boil were so criminally underutilized.

what do you mean you’re going to introduce me to the two funniest guys in the GAR (thinking about “…i guess we’re the best!”) who also have a healthy dose of fear but also completely love their Commander and General but just fucking hate their jobs as a silly + grumpy duo and then barely ever show them again. what the fuck Dave Filoni.

Rex calls out for Cody when he’s waking up in The Last Battle and it’s never mentioned again this is a crime.

Waxer and Boil were so criminally underutilized.

what do you mean you’re going to introduce me to the two funniest guys in the GAR (thinking about “…i guess we’re the best!”) who also have a healthy dose of fear but also completely love their Commander and General but just fucking hate their jobs as a silly + grumpy duo and then barely ever show them again. what the fuck Dave Filoni.

It is my self-appointed duty to put this loveliness on tumblr.

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the thing about Commander Cody that makes me so absolutely insane is not just how shockingly kind he is- it’s the fact that he’s so kind and tender even though he was never afforded that growing up.

like, none of the clones were, obviously, but Cody even as an Imperial does nothing but talk in gentle tones to citizens and reassured them that he’s only trying to help and does every single thing he POSSIBLY can to avoid bloodshed.

Even With Separatists.

he was never demonstrated with that level of kindness until far, far into his life, and yet it’s his core trait. he’s a good person to the bone and he did that by himself. it’s incredible. he truly does embody the Sun despite growing up on a planet that always rains.

the hill I will die on is that the most tragic story in star wars is the clones' story

I want to get this off my chest regarding the Star Wars fandom, especially the Clone Wars and Bad Batch fans, because it's something that's been bothering me for a bit. This may come across as controversial to some and fall upon deaf ears, but I want to address this in the nicest, most encouraging, smartest way possible. This also isn't a callout to anyone, it's just something I've observed!

Everyone in the fandom (specifically TCW and TBB people) is all for clone individuality and advocacy until they aren't. When it comes to a particular clone they don't like, it's no longer convenient for them to love all clones, and then all bets are off.

Take the fandom's treatment of Cody and Bly, for example.

Cody and Bly's worths and personalities have been reduced to solely their Jedi Generals to a disgusting degree. Whenever I look for Cody content specifically (and I've checked the "commander bly" tag too for confirmation), it's just oversaturated with Codywan content. Even in the non-Codywan-specific posts, you can't find a sentence with Commander Cody that doesn't also mention Obi-Wan Kenobi. Not to mention male characters (especially) portrayed platonically in media can't *just* be friends anymore, but that's a whole other issue for another day 😅 Bly is the same way; whenever there's a sentence with Commander Bly in it, Aayla Secura just happens to *magically* appear. That's so unfair to Cody and Bly.

Then take Fox, for example. Fox has less screen time than Cody, but he is still given an entire multifaceted personality, and even a fan-created face to a name. It makes no sense that Cody and Bly aren't given the same kind of care and attention. Obviously you can make fanon personalities (because that's part of the fun of participating in fandoms!), but they shouldn't be reductive, insult the character, and not do the character justice. Thanks to TBB S2, more light is shed on Cody's personality (and hopefully, fingers crossed, we see more Cody and Bly in another season of TBB, so Bly's definitive personality is addressed and developed more. It's what he deserves 😌). Cody is so much more than just Obi-Wan's sidekick: he's stern and by-the-book (however, his orthodoxy has its limits, and he uses his own judgment in various situations), but he's very caring, loyal, kind, intelligent, and courageous!

Clones fought tirelessly in both the Republic and Empire eras (albeit the beginning of the Empire era when the clones were still serving in the military) to distinguish themselves from their fellow brothers in order to make themselves more human. Personal selections and preferences for their hairstyles, armor paint, tattoos, names, and even scars obtained in battle tried to convey to the general public that they were more than mere copies of Jango Fett. They were always human, but because they all share the same face, the GAR was then made faceless. To natborns, a faceless army wasn't as tragic to see refused basic human rights, be victims of bigotry, and then physically suffer and die in combat, because with facelessness comes a lack of identity, and with a lack of identity comes neglect.

Support all the clones, not just your favorites! They are some of the most tragic characters, if not the most tragic characters, in all of Star Wars. If the writers won't give them the love they deserve from the natborn characters (because seeing a named clone we just met die within the same episode is so upsetting 😩...ahem, I'm talking to you Dave and Jen lol!), the least we can do is give them that much-needed love from a fan's standpoint! 🥰

// TBB SPOILERS //

Cody isn’t dying truthers after watching TBB S2 finale:

Also in all this mess, where’s COMMANDER FUCKING CODY

i love Commander Cody. he’s gay. he’s beautiful. he’s strong. he’s insanely smart. he crushes droids with his thighs. he’s the kindest man you’ve ever met. he’s extremely competent. he puts up with more bullshit than what should be possible. he’s a feminist. he’s never met a woman.

i’m trying to like s2 but i swear it’s so bad story and plot wise, the whole crow part is a mess… i’m living for kaz’s backstory so far tho

I just feel like since they went all topsy-turvy with the plot lines they could've at least kept David alive maybe

wow so this season of shadow and bone is the same in that each individual actor is killing it in embodying their character but the plot is nonsense!!!

Like we’re not going to get the not just girls soft wesper scene, jasper is outed as grisha, the darkling didn’t dramatically interrupt the sea whip hunt and there was no flying Nikolai dramatic act yet :’)

And I’m only through episode two but I guess we are skipping all the apparat religious plot which honestly was looking forward to with the creepy priest in season one, and the interesting play that would have had with Tamar and tolya…. And missing hungry for power Alina it’s like oops she has two now and almost destroyed the boat! No like in the books she looks terribly ill from the fold encounter and not using her ability, she has the scary choker she has to hide and is desperate to find another amplifier

And again it’s jarring the cuts between the two plots - six of crows should have been it’s own show stand-alone. And now it feels like we are in the crooked kingdom plot without ever getting the ice court heist or the outing of parents. Like the editing is really awkward.

I guess I’m just disappointed because the costumes and sets are PERFECT the characters have the right edge for each of them, but they’ve been dropped in a fanfic where the plot bones and the pacing that make each character and relationship feel earned and put together are missing!!!

Although I think the bit we’ve had of malina has been very well done, the Kanej is pushing it for more because .. they shouldn’t be here yet. And Nina calling Matthias the love of her life right when they meet? Opposite the book UGH

I will finish this season to see Ben Barnes go full villain but really am sad that we waited so long for this and as a fan of both series feel we realllllly got jipped

I take back everything I said about season 1. It was a masterpiece actually. Season 2 made me realize it's worth 🥲