Hello Chicken!

Hello chicken!

I come to you today with a question I've had for a long time, and I read a post a while ago where you gave tips on entering the astral for people who struggle with it. In this, you mentioned, if I remember correctly, that people who day dream a lot should find a way to tell apart their spiritual travels from daydreams.

The thing is—I'm not only a maladaptive daydreamer since I can remember but also a fiction writer. Meaning my mind comes up with random places and people and story fractures all the time. And when prompted with something, it can run pretty far. I have no way of determining wether or not my spiritual encounters with familiar spirits have been legit or a complete result of my own imagination.

I really wanna know if there's a way to determine if my experience are "real" or made up and how I can go about differentiating them. If you have anything that could help with that I'd be super grateful.

Have a wonderful day and thank you already

We're in reference to this, I think?

This is one of those situations where there are IME never any blanket tips, because everyone has their own needs.

"Real astral travel is fatiguing whereas daydreaming is not" is not a rule of thumb that is helpful to people that don't really get tired astral traveling, or who are exhausted by racing thoughts.

I believe it's vital to experiment for oneself to build up a system of checks and balances that works for you.

That being said here are some ways that travel can be tested (again, consider how these checks may be inadequate depending on the areas you travel, your innate skills, etc).

If you have tips or thoughts to add, please feel free!

You have valid experiences with your spirits if they pan out - if your spirits give you information, spells, techniques, etc., that work. A lot of valid techniques and lore aren't written down, so comparing it to other sources doesn't always work - you have to put it to the test. You can also ask spirits to do things for you - things that should be easily doable - and see if it happens (like, asking them to visit you at a certain time and setting a reminder after the fact).

You can't really control spirits in the astral the way you control daydream characters. Your daydream character can say or do whatever you think even on the slightest of whims. Spirits do not, and if you try to force them to say or do things they can become very upset.

In the astral, there is no story to fracture. It's not a story, there is no narrative. It's a lived experience.

Astral realms are causal, just like our normal physical reality. In a daydream if you realize a character has on the wrong outfit for this scene, based on that mere idea the story might retroactively correct to suddenly have the character be in the right outfit. But in the astral, for a spirit to have on different clothes, they have to go change clothes. And that takes time. They have to leave that location, go to where they keep their clothes, change their clothes, and come back.

There is no fracturing the story into two versions, one where the spirit has on the right outfit from the start, and one where they don't. There is no story.

In a daydream, you control the experience. At the perfect moment, it starts raining in the graveyard for the dramatic reveal. In the astral, you are experiencing something external. You can imagine it's raining, try to force it to rain, or project rain. You might even see rain for a few moments. But your perception will tend to snap back to the actual experience. And then the spirits might be looking at you weird, asking what you're doing. You can't restart the scene because there is no scene.

In a daydream if there is a locked door, that doesn't necessarily stop you in any way. You can know what's behind the locked door, where the key is, how difficult it is to open the door, if there are alternate routes, and so on. You can even know who made the door and the forest the wood came from. The characters might be stuck on one side but you are the omnipotent creator god of that reality and you have all the information you want.

In the astral if you encounter a locked door, you don't automatically know what's behind it. If you don't have the key, you can use magic to unlock it or you can try to break it down. But if you can't, then you can't. If your path is blocked, you won't automatically know any alternative paths forward. The narrative isn't going to be rewritten to account for plot holes; there is no plot. Do you want to know who made the door? Well, how do you intend to find out? Because that information isn't up to you; it exists externally from you.

The characters are at a gorge. The next part of the story is on the other side. Figuring out how to cross the gorge isn't interesting right now, the emotional energy is ready to carry us deeper into the plot. Let's just put a pin in the crossing and figure it out later. For now, we teleport into the future. The characters are on the other side of the gorge, ready to travel into the city.

In the astral, you are stuck on that side of the gorge until you figure out how to cross it. You can imagine or pretend you're on the other side, but eventually you will be bounced back to where you are actually standing.

Daydreams remain static unless you are there to change them. The changes may be sprawling and nigh instantaneous, but they come from you; you are making it up. You are never going to come back to a daydream and realized the fundamental reality of the daydream changed since monday and is irreversible to its prior state.

Astral realms will change on their own whether or not you're there for it. One day a new path appears that was never there before. You can't "switch back" to the other version because there is not more than one version, it's a living area. One day there is a blockage and you can't go to that location. The next day the blockage disappears, or it remains until you resolve it.

Daydreams tend to be low-energy. You can go through the epic history of an empire in 30 minutes. Astral travel tends to be energy-intensive. You can hang out for 15 minutes and talk to one fish in a fountain before you get tired and sleepy.

Similarly, changes in daydreams can be done with nothing more than the energy of a thought; you can raise up houses, neighborhoods, cities, empires, and solar systems with the blink of an eye. In the astral, if you want a bucket of water, you have to pick up the bucket, go to the well, get the water, and walk back. And if it takes you 15 actual IRL minutes, then that's how long it takes you.

My tl;dr is that if it feels like you're an omnipotent multiversal creator god having adventures in endless stories with clear narratives, side-quests, and character arcs, then I'd be more likely to hazard that you're daydreaming. If it feels like you are a person trying to live your got dang life, if you run into problems that require real time and energy to resolve, and if you drop the ball and the world moves on without you - it's more likely you're traveling.

(The only thing I will say is that time in the astral generally doesn't work like how it does here - time can scroll forward very quickly. But if you have time-god powers like editing the past, jumping around from past to present and into alternate timelines, or flash-freezing the universe to walk around in it, I'd be suspicious.

In addition, what worlds you're going to can have a huge impact - personal astral spaces you're fully in control over are, well, much easier to control than external spaces where you're a visitor.)

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I love reading your posts! Im proud of your work so far with your concept and journey!

You seem really cool i hope you have a sweet day!

- @radicallymagickal

hii !! thank youu :D you seem cool too, and i hope you have a sweet day as well :3


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Magius garden🌹 a new tumblr community for magical heroes/irl magical girls.

I decided to start this group for other magical heroes to use to ask questions, meet one another, help each other, ect.

If you want to ask something feel free! I or perhaps other community members will gladly help!

We also happily welcome new irl magical heroes or those interested in it!

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2 weeks ago

(note; this is not roleplay, delusion, or fictionkin, but those who are rping, delusional, or fictionkin can interact. please do not call me delusional / psychotic, as this can cause me to doubt my own experiences and reality, which can send me into psychosis.)

im gonna take an energy cleansing shower later and then try and communicate with kyubey / an incubator willing to talk to me !! :D im gonna write down a list of questions i have for kyubey / the incubator.

before i do this though, do any puella magi's / more experienced pop culture pagans have any advice for confirming whether the being you're talking to is kyubey / a real / trustworthy incubator ? any specific questions i should ask ? any warning signs / red flags i should be aware of that signal that i'm not actually speaking with kyubey / a real and/or trustworthy incubator ?

also, i plan on using a pendulum and tarot to communicate with kyubey / the incubator, but are there any better methods / methods that kyubey / incubators prefer ? and is there anything i should do before trying to speak with them (a ritual, offering, etc) ?

any and all advice is super appreciated !!! tysm :D

(note; This Is Not Roleplay, Delusion, Or Fictionkin, But Those Who Are Rping, Delusional, Or Fictionkin

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2 weeks ago

Please listen carefully Please listen carefully🙏 I need you to read this..🥹

On the seventh of October I am teacher Mahmoud Atta. I work as a teacher teaching secondary school students.

Please Listen Carefully Please Listen Carefully🙏 I Need You To Read This..🥹

On October 7th, I was getting ready to go to school. On October 7th, while I was getting ready to go to school, my life was completely turned upside down. Israel declared war on Gaza. After that, they announced their entry into the roads and cities and forced us to leave the city from Khan Yunis to Rafah

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We passed through a road called the Road of Death. Tanks were everywhere. Bullets were raining down. We passed through a road called the Road of Death. Tanks were everywhere. Bullets were raining down. If you survived, your brother would not.

We've all seen the end of the world movies on the big screen. We have all seen end of the world movies on cinema screens, but what we saw was real and not imaginary. I wish it was imaginary.

We finally arrived in Rafah Finally we arrived in Rafah, the safe city as it is called, but where to go? The sea is behind us, the weather is freezing, and the borders are closed with Egypt on the other side and Israel on the third and fourth sides. I found myself making a tent out of nylon for myself and my family.

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No water, no electricity, no food, no place to go to the bathroom, no life. I wish I had died sooner.

We returned after a long time to our city.After a long time, we returned to our city. The first sight was that a giant monster had entered the city and left it in ruins, so much so that I did not recognize my house or my neighborhood. Oh my God, is this Khan Yunis?

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fI searched to find my home, to find my apartment, which contained my memories and my most beautiful days, destroyed. I searched to find my home, to find my apartment, which contained my memories and my most beautiful days, destroyed.

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Today I stand before you to search for Today I stand in your hands to search for any help to restore myself again thanks to you.. I am waiting for your help

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2 weeks ago

┈─★ GOD PROFILE : MADOKAMI ❤︎

┈─★ GOD PROFILE : MADOKAMI ❤︎

(note ; this is not roleplay, fictionkin, or delusion, though roleplayers, fictionkin, and delusional people are allowed to interact. this is pop culture paganism. please do not call me delusional, as this can cause me to doubt my experiences and reality, which can send me into pyschosis.)

before this post starts, i just want to say that this post isnt meant to be taken as "absolute truth". take what resonates with your own personal practice, and leave behind what does not.

who is Madokami ?

Madokami is a character from the anime Puella Magi Madoka Magica. Canonically known as "Ultimate Madoka", she is a canon god character, and is the law of cycles.

domains

love, the law of cycles, karmic destiny / potential, salvation, life and death, wishes, magic / magical heroes, protection, time (past, present, future), hope, purity / innocence, generosity, compassion

associations

The colors red, pink, white, gold, and galaxy colors, love / symbols representing love, sticks or twigs, bow and arrows, bows and ribbons, flowers, stars, soul gems, feathers

titles

The law of cycles, the savior of magical girls / heroes, protector of magical girls / heroes, she who keeps away witches

offering ideas

Flowers, sweet foods, drinks, or candies, heart shaped objects, crystals or gems, shiny objects, star shaped objects, acts of love or compassion, good deeds, self care, making people or yourself happy, objects that are colored red, pink, white, gold, or galaxy colors, art,

altar decoration ideas

Flowers, sticks or twigs, heart shaped objects, crystals or gems, shiny objects, objects that are colored red, pink, white, gold, or galaxy colors, star shaped objects, art, bows or ribbons


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2 weeks ago

⁺🎸◞ samuels labyrinth

⁺🎸◞ Samuels Labyrinth

disclaimer: this is not roleplay, fictionkin, or delusion, but those who are roleplaying, fictionkin, and/or delusional are allowed to follow and interact. please do not call me delusional, as this can trigger my paranoia and cause me to spiral into not believing my own experiences / reality, which could send me into psychosis.

⁺🎸◞ Samuels Labyrinth

🂭 ,,, hello ! my name is samuel, i use he/it, im 16, an im an aspiring irl magical boy !!

my concept is puella magi madoka magica, but that might change as i am very new to this community.

i have been practicing chaos magick on and off for a few years now, and while i am not new to the concept of pop culture magick / pop culture paganism, i am new to the practice of it. same thing w/ astral projection as well. im also a shifter ! i knew about and was a shifter back in 2020, but forgot about shifting until recently, where i got back into it.

im the host of a did system, am nonhuman (mentally, will identify as physically once i make my contract), queer, trans (genderqueer + ftm), and am physically and mentally disabled.

my main / biggest kin is grey wolf (though i do have others), and this aspect of who i am impacts me greatly. tldr; beware of wolf posting

i worship both "traditional" gods and pce/d's. i currently worship Loki, Gaia / Mother Earth, Dionysus (causally, dont work w/ Him at all atm), Madokami / Ultimate Madoka, Homucifer / Devil Homura, and may start worshipping Ho-Oh (pokemon) and Hekate as well.

⁺🎸◞ Samuels Labyrinth
⁺🎸◞ Samuels Labyrinth

🂭 ,,, dni / dnf

bigots, right wing / maga, queer exclus, anti endo, harass ppl, anti shifter, anti irl magical heroes, anti pop culture paganism, anti chaos magick, against self dx, fakeclaim ppl, ableist, reality check ppl w/o their consent, force recovery on those who aren't ready / dont want to recover, think fiction ALWAYS or NEVER affects reality (theres nuance !!!), think fiction can make someone into a pedo / zoo / etc, equate fictional stories and drawings of characters that dont exist to the real harm of real people (esp equating that fictional content to the harm of real children, as a survivor of grooming, csa, csem, and underage... work, its insanely offensive to say a drawing is just as bad as the photos of child me that are still out there), terf / radfem, zionists / pro israel, supports a two state solution, "cluster b abuse" believers and similar ideas of mental illness specific abuse

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🂭 ,,, tags

#𝄞 maybe its a dream - maybe nothing else is real .. // this tag is for all posts related to irl magical girl stuff !!

#𖤐 even though i was born from a colored star .. // this tag is for all posts related to pcp, chaos magick, astral projection, shifting, manifestation, and general paganism / magick as well !

#✞ misfortune is a gift - really - like a bouquet of splendid flowers .. // this tag is for all vent posts !!!

#☆ it feels like somethings gonna happen ; a premonition .. // this tag is for informational posts about pcp, chaos magick, and irl magical hero topics !

#✘ long pointed wings with scars run beneath the skin .. // this tag is for any asks i answer !!!

#𖦹 dig deep beneath your filling - theres an animal waiting that must come out .. // this tag is for journal entries !!

#❤︎ a large queue was formed at it - where everyone continues on with a smile .. // this tag is for queued posts !!!

#꒰੭ i wake up to a call - put my frilly outfit on now .. // this tag is for reblogs !

#✦ my ribs opened up - made room for beating hearts .. // this tag is for my questions about irl magical heroing, pop culture paganism and magick, chaos magick, astral projection, shifting, manifestation, general paganism / magick, etc etc. !!!

#ꔫ are you going to curse the blue sky - and wish for stormy weather ? .. // this tag is for my witch logs, aka posts about witches i'll fight once i contract !

#🃜 if i were any older i would act my age .. // this tag is on all of my posts !!

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2 weeks ago

"teens are prone to tantrums and are emotionally unstable" - okay, yeah, puberty is real, and emotional regulation is a difficult skill to learn. but also. any adult person would be pissed if their opinions were disregarded, they had no say in what happens to them, their emotions and feelings were downplayed and their privacy were intruded on.


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1 week ago

A Voice from Beneath the Rubble: We Do Not Want to Die of Hunger

The war has returned to us in a criminal and inhumane way, without any rules or restraint. Camps and hospitals are being bombed, children and medics are being killed in cold blood, and all international prohibitions have been violated.

Death rains down from the sky, and hunger consumes us from the ground.

We are trapped between two fires, there is no escape from the bombing, and no salvation from starvation.

A Voice From Beneath The Rubble: We Do Not Want To Die Of Hunger

My little child cries out from unbearable hunger, and I am powerless to comfort him, We have nothing left to eat except some green herbs I boil, hoping they will ease our hunger. 💔

A Voice From Beneath The Rubble: We Do Not Want To Die Of Hunger
A Voice From Beneath The Rubble: We Do Not Want To Die Of Hunger

In the past five days, we have received only 5 dollars, not even enough to buy bread for my child for a single day, Donations have tragically declined, and we can no longer afford even the bare minimum of necessities. 😥

Entire families have been forced to flee their homes under the relentless bombardment. Even the area they push us to, claiming it is "safe" (Al-Mawasi), is bombed daily without mercy.

The crossings are closed, aid is blocked, and escaping to a safe country is impossible.

It is a systematic plan of slow genocide, by missiles and by hunger.

From the heart of the siege, from amidst the destruction, from beneath the rubble…

I plead with you through the tears of a mother fighting to protect her child, with a body weakened by pregnancy and hunger, with a soul that holds on only to the hope in your compassionate hearts. 🥹

Please, help us. Save my child, my unborn baby, and my family from this hell.

Every donation—even the smallest—is a lifeline in a sea of fire.

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1 week ago

Hello everyone, I hope you are fine 🌹🤎

I am Mayson Hamada. I will tell you my story. Imagine this: It was a night like any other night. My children laugh at the house, and our hearts were beating with love and hope. We were going out with our friends and spent a fun time with my family, but suddenly the earth was shaken under our feet 💥💣, and we heard a thunder -like voice. . . Then silence. scary. it's all over! 😱💔 The shells exploded everywhere, the walls of our house collapsed over our heads 🏠💣, and the deaf sounds mixed with the screams of my children 😢😢. We crawled from under the rubble with exhausted bodies and terrifying hearts, we run between smoke and debris in search of safety 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♀️. Our house, which was full of life, is now a pile of ash. 💔

We live in a dilapidated and worn-out tent that is not suitable for winter or summer. 💔

Hello Everyone, I Hope You Are Fine 🌹🤎

Now we live in a very high cost of living.

There is no money to buy anything, and there is no work because of the war and the difficulty of the situation. I hope you will support me and my family until this difficult war ends.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart to everyone who supports us in these difficult humanitarian circumstances. May God bless you. 🌹🍉🇵🇸

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