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possible spoiler alert ig idk
So like I think it's not made yet they must be creating the concept and finishing the details rn, cause otherwise they wouldn't be doing all this obvious stuff. So since we still got time left here's some themes I want to be in the album
Siren vibes, but they can also add in beach vibes as well like tropical
there can be a reverse little mermaid story for the shortfilm
orr more aqua marine upbeat vibes
or like a fusion and make it sci fi
Honestly idk I have a bunch of theories cause it can also be more like beyonce's photoshoot
I just think they should go more indie and artsy and leave out the huge dance numbers that don't fit
What if the album cover is like 2005 blue crush vibes
I think the mv can be filmed more scenic
I have this huge marine spirit theory I made but it's like..eh nobody even knows what that is. Apparently people think it's all based off of some freaking manga. When that's total b.s mermaid legends exist globally I highly doubt over a literal decade of water symbology since his DEBUT, is based off a manga, please. Specifically in africa, I would like to just post all my theories but I don't really want to. But I would love to tie in the south american catholic symbolism in rover, cause there's so much, and it honestly goes perfectly with this beach theme, but I really don't have anything to prove so.
There is also pirates of the caribbean influence in peaches and years ago he said that was his favorite movie and they had mermaids in one film.
At the same times there's also a lot of atlantis references in peaches so I'm curious if it will be a red herring or it will actually tie into the mythos. Because in rover and mhmm he was in a dry desert but there were hints of him being locked in some type of water tank? in mhmm. But that could be a reference to them using him as a power source because water is a conductor. Idc what the internet says oceanic water has lots of salt and can respond to electricity. Also lightning in the sky is possible due to clouds. It's science somewhere in there, the ions and water and air creates energy.
Again it's still dealing with the four elements and creation energy so they are almost treating him like the creator deities in ancient egypt.
Though I am interested in how they are going to pull off the siren theme because mermen aren't usually seen in the media.
Although he's had the symbolism for years.
But I would love to at least get a legit analysis out before the album. I was supposed to do one years ago but it's like idk how people would react to it.
his teasers were more or less based off the four elements well five including the ether and /or electricity.
But water and sea life was the most prominent symbol for him and it's seen in almost every project that he has
in reality he's mostly portraying a creation god which is why he's in so many teasers and the others are usually in the teasers with him. His time stopping powers begin from debut also.
So it's clear he's a primordial diety not a simple one. Which is why in rover he kept switching identities because they recreate themselves over and over again.
Honestly I think their was so much attention on him having so many teasers no one actually considered that there was an actual purpose behind them or the exo mythos. Due to the fact that a majority of the concepts became intertwined with so many pop cultural moments at the time. Particularly when they began reenacting twilight and it was seen as cringe, I think the mythos became a running gag rather than something people actually paid attention to. Also there's so many cross references with other pop cultural works in kji's albums and things they were trying to recreate it got all muddled up so now people don't tie things together.
Like after peaches era they took a break and let him perform and tour. They still were continuing the mythos. There was tons of little easter eggs. I don't think I was psychic when I kept predicting what his next album was going to be it's just common sense. They always made sure his projects lined up with one another. They just also cover it up with so much drama and mess most people forget about it cause it "doesn't matter" the gossip matters even though it disappears after like few months.
Andante 2017 he had a love interest named Bom
Bom in Korean means spring
He volunteers at a hospice and frequently gets involved in their lives. He becomes emotionally attached to them and fixes varies issues for other people. In the show he acts like a guardian angel of sorts.
In the end of the show Bom "dies" of a brain disease but he still imagines her as being there.
2017
Kokobop
In the music video he has a tattoo of an angel on his neck
January 13, 2018
He was in a drama called spring has come
The female main character was called Naoko which in japanese means
In the show Naoko was innocent and easily tricked by Jiwon and was deceived by his charming and innocent appearance, frequently helping him out and loaning him money in hopes of him creating a life with her. She did all of it in hopes that he would marry her, but emotionally he was traumatized by his mother trying to murder him.
The show is a metaphor for death and birth shown by the visualizations of marriage and intimacy. Spring representing rebirth and creation.
Jiwon acted as the director of the family and was able to "fix them" and make them perfect just like he does his subject in the first episode.
Due to his interference the family goes from disgruntled to happy. Although his motives remain unknown.
April 2, 2018
he played an angel in miracle that we met that accidentally takes the wrong life and must try to fix the situation. It's a mix of guardian angel/ greek gods messing with the affairs of humans. He tries to reunite the original husband and wife but can't. Throughout the show he tries to make it up to her and they develop and emotional bond.
It reminds me of the concept of the film the preacher's wife where dudly is supposed to be helping the married couple but ends up falling for the wife himself. To be fair he only began getting entangled with the wife after the husband abandoned her but still
I do find it interesting that most gifs are of him and the female character that he dances with at the end of the show, but that "female character" is actually his male shapeshifting boss Mao and there was no romance there. I believe they are actually spiritual brothers.
The only "romance" or emotional subplot he had on the show is with the wife character
But I think cause of the age gap it went over people's head, even though his character is most likely older than her but whatever.
I think people don't understand subtlety in romance drama's like he picked out her clothes it's kinda obvious.
This angel who doesn't follow instructions character also coincidentally would align with his rover symbolism where he "played" a fallen angel.
It's especially interesting because Mao was known as the one with 10,000 faces or identities
the writing on the portal is also not korean, I couldn't find out exactly but it looks thai or arabic or based off that type of script? Enochian? Idk
It's almost like they like maybe pushed to get him roles that tied into the exo mythos. They apparently have a binder all the way from the 80s or 90s from lsm.
In the show the kids who encountered Ato and saw his powers in person join a forum called miracle that we met, which is where the title of the show comes from. The forum is a place where people trade stories about seeing supernatural beings like angels and aliens.
One of the kids in the show theorized that Ato was just a model that nasa had created--- some type of a.r model characters to roam around the earth and mess with people. Which is really interesting cause at the time nobody really knew about that. This came out after the space force began to publicize more information about their projects.
But this show was in 2018...interesting.
Even more interesting is that Kai had an Augmented reality type concert film.
Like they're getting a little too sloppy. So I'm pretty sure I can figure out the theme or at least I can try.
end of pt 1
to be honest at this point I'm convinced they were live action role playing to practice for a romance movie but both of them ended up not getting the part so they just stayed in character for a few years cause this is so funny. Honestly he lowkey highkey needed camila to be a replacement mom for him cause he clearly needs that in his life, but it's so interested how they ended up doing so much pda but never even tried to get engaged or even a reality special.
Saw another one of those videos and they were doing all that stuff in front of someone who was cleaning the table 🙄
They need to give that worker a raise :(
I love how they were all in each others space and ty stopped and turned away when bk said that and then Kai busted out laughing and vehemently denied it and they put all the blame on bk and gets closer with him again. Ty just let kji handle it cause he's not a good liar. "Like real brothers"..................... just what could he be referring to???????????
Lmao he said even "real brothers don't do that" and then hit ty on the back. It's so funny cause people will lie and their body language tells on them. Lmao he hit him so hard on the back cause his laughing was giving the truth away.
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I'm patiently waiting for the day sean lew does his big one and finally choreographs for sm and saves the company from mediocrity cause southern hip hop does not go like how they've been doing it or teaching it.
Back in the day they used to have a good medium of american choreographers to assist the trainee's and idols and clean up their faults now it's like they don't' have that and it's soo evident.
I don't care the minute they got rid of that bald british or american dude they companies dancing went down hill. It became a weird oligarchy. Like I noticed kai's main teacher started recommending people he trained and they eventually ended up replacing most of the western choreographers. They brought in bailey sok
for peaches, the asian american southern swag hip hop extraordinaire that she is and it was way better than Mmmh.
It actually had so many different elements in it, but most don't really focus on the dancing. But for rover they settled on bada lee
who is mainly a krump battle dancer, it lacked authenticity. Not to get all so you think you can dance, but Jongin cannot do that and at sm they make no effort to really teach everyone learns on their own and they aren't really pushed to be at a certain standard.
Kasper and all those other choreographers and that studio they get most of the dancers from have a very specific skill sets.
They've been with sm for quite some time and I get that, loyalty but like the art world don't work like that they're gonna get left behind.
they got clout about 2013 from america's best dance crew made it to the quarter finals cool. We back to Korea with prestige
Did the olympics alongside exo.
I get sm always wants people with lots of prestige and clout but they tend to keep the same people for so long the creative image of sm gets stifled and left behind, now sm is desperately trying all the trends and fads to get their artists relevant to the youth again. Like it's a little late they should have been letting young creative directors in.
I don't care I'm always gonna advocate for new and upcoming artist with lots of passion. They make the world turn, they start the trends, they bring the most energy with their ideas.
Ignoring the performative style an artist specializes in and getting choreographers that make lite hood tik tok mashup dances is ruining the game. But if one must do it I think letting the western choreographers they bring in for ideas have some real creative freedom. It typically never fails I feel like they bring in these choreographers for a blueprint then let a korean choreographer twist it up a little bit so they never have to really give somebody credit. They never say western names hardly if ever only thank you team who contributed to the success but the korean choreographers get to show their face, do interviews, and idols basically have them as a part of the crew.
Like they are NOT slick. At all. I know the western choreographers get inspo from southern hip hop but at least they are transparent. They'll say this is inspired by this dance, two step, crank that, etc but it never is even a topic of discussion. Only full credit going to the k choreographers and yeah yeah some other people helped...like people forget why exo's choreo was so on point when they started
I really don't wanna make it seem like it's just black creators they try to shelve and ignore it's basically anyone non korean.
Tony Testa I remember him from back in the day but when I wanted to search him up to my surprise nobody really talked about him and the only choreographer people talk about training Kai is mainly Mihawk and Kasper...which is somewhat true.
Cause they're choreo is...like it's okay.. but Kai himself went into how Mihawk trained Exo and it was basically sm style, yelling, you're terrible, quit now, emotional abuse... wow you're famous I love you let's take pictures.. I don't care they gaslight them kids idc idc idc. Now that's trauma bonding.
But then there's the actual full truth that they and many other sm performers who have been praised for their dances around that time, were in fact trained by a real deal professional at one point, one of their staple choreographers was Tony Testa and he choreographed for Britney Spears(circus) and Michael Jackson(Testa was hired by director Kenny Ortega as an associate choreographer for Michael Jackson's final tour This Is It which obviously never got to happen but still)
This was dance on sunset? I think?
and suddenly the quality makes all the sense in the world
But again try and find it without knowing about it before hand you'd be like yeah no they never really had any western choreographers. There's no history books in Kpop if you were there you remember but if you weren't woops doesn't exist.
except it does.
Anyway too many people have this weird odd narrative Mihawk did it all and thank God for him like....how? He's just one of the only one's still there. Everybody else left cause Korea is trash to artists and creatives.
Like Kai cannot do that hood stuff, he wasn't trained for that at all. Now if sm invested more in there artists fine blame him but everybody knows these kids would dance in that basement for hours by themselves cause be honest they probably paid the teachers for a certain amount of time and then it's all on the kids. They absorb as much as they can but then it's up to them. He couldn't just learn such an advanced style like krumping from watching, you either grow up in the culture or you learn from someone who grew up in the culture. This is why you can't expect these Korean teachers to teach krumping. They know it but only cause they most likely learned from someone close to the source, it's not just something that can spread so easily.
sm has always like historically done this like it's just something they do they will never stop taking these itsy bitsy pieces of black culture and recycling it they can't help it. They've worked with tons of black artist to make the actual music and tend to get some western or black influenced people to try and create some type of instant quick success. But it's so subtle one could say it's not related at all.
I would say its a coincidence but knowing who trained shotaro like uhm no it's not,
Sm knows exactly what company trained Shotaro and they are known to specialize in krumping and hip hop. The little time he spent at sm most likely taught him barely anything he was already trained when they got him. They fib so much and never let their artists go into detail. He trained for years with a company that trains people in the top boy groups in japan.
EXPG is a studio connected with the iconic Japanese boy group exile tribe where most of their members train.
I just get tired of people saying 'studio from japan or studio in america' like if it was Korean people would give the entire name...like what's wrong with giving people credit who deserve it.
They typically sometimes get sent to new york for 2 years I think? But that was in the old days it may be different now. This is because the japanese always understood if you want your artist to do black music they should not just sing black music but be under the cultural american influence in some sort of way.
I don't know what they aren't getting, Kai isn't perfect at every style. They just don't plan on ever investing any more money into him or really any of their artists.
He was more in his comfort zone at the beginning of exo with a heavy emphasis on jazz and contemporary style dance.
If there isn't jazz or contemporary at least in the basis of the dance that's where Kai starts to falter. Broadway theater style is what he's most comfortable in. But because of appearance they push urban dance on him.
They didn't even try with bomba
Rover was a soul crushing mix between crank that soulja boi and the macarena.
I was watching the video like nooo that's every viral black/ethnic dance in one and I already knew that tagged choreographer was korean. I wanna analyze rover later but I might get upset it's pretty like a big major 106 in park style mv/music video and dance but like that fact just got
Everything he specializes in sm is like nah they also make anyone with sm have this weird loyalty to where the artist never get to express and cultivate themselves as a human. They are stuck in some sort of child/star hybrid.
I don't know why in the world they didn't send exo or at least super m to millenium they literally rented out the studio where so many talented dancers choreograph and just flew out they korean choreographer so ignorant. They were so stubborn with that group.
I feel like if they were trained by young vibrant artist close to their age they could of gotten so much inspiration. Freedom is really a virus and why would a kpop company want them to have freedom
Like hire the boy he just traveling around asia in his spare time making some of the best choreography of his career and they're like lalalala let's hire other people he's worked and trained with but not him. If anyone could actually help fill in the gaps with some of sm's main dancers I think he could.
Anyway I just feel definitely by 2025 either super m is gonna be somewhat active or sm will be out of business but I still think sean and kai should at least meet up once at a dance conference they become friends and post jazzy contemporary dances online with the occasional obligatory bff's cooking in the kitchen youtube channel, like so many of the peebles do now and days. They both do the same artsy triple threat yet auditioning to be a stay at home husband type of thing, cooking, yoga, self care. Like it can be good for the brand I swear. I just have a thing for artsy people with the same vibes clicking up. It's not so far fetched cause he already worked with Jackson. I just want the two balls of sunshine to meet
I really wish i could be as chill and fun when discussing jongin but the reality is the origins of my kpop journey never called for that. I only liked eggsos music for a very short period of my life and once I heard the demo tracks that ended. For some reason knowing they didnt make their hits or even contribute past one line or two just makes me feel icky. I never liked the others past the bullying years of 2012 to 2016. I also cut off kji when I felt like he was also very inauthentic. I returned out of curiosity for my research of the entertainment industry. Most artists in korea act like they are in some hybrid between the military and a gang. I just cant take it seriously. Its a hybrid between american hollywood and a dictatorship. The industry still rubs me the wrong way as apparently child protection laws and human rights in south korea are a suggestion.
In the end I comment on jongin 1 because i still do see some ...potential is the wrong word ...life maybe. He seems to have more of a soul than most in the industry. So I still check for him. Yet I wont lie or be fake. His recent projects have been god awful. Sm has ran him into the ground and dont seem like they will be stopping anytime soon. He is the most obvious case of "industry mistreatment programming" that I have ever seen. I still cringe at times seeing the toll the industry has taken on him.
I do however understand many fans are either very quiet because they just want to enjoy and relax. And others want community and friendship.
I get it. That was never my intention. I have a lot of perspectives on jongin and his career and I feel like sometimes I should keep them to myself..but then other times I feel like thats very unfair.
Online their are people that write very objectifying, dirty vile things about him but that is okay cause they are being quirky...
But if you talk about sprituality, souls, diets, genetics, chi magic, face yoga, spritual contracts ect or connecting things to the occult thats too far.
No its not. The lies are too far.
I just don't vibe with the lies anymore. And what is going on all over the internet about him the group, kpop and the entire entertainment industry is a lie.
So in my opinion as long as I have evidence for what Im saying anybody can choose whether or not they want to read or believe what Im saying. But the dumb fake arguements about literally nothing. Its a distraction. They plan things out for people to argue over so nobody every holds the company or artists or infrastructure accounatble. I cant just waste time like that anymore. I will write and make content from my perspective. Because there is nothing wrong with the truth. 99 percent of whats on the net about exo and jongin is a lie. I just cant anymore. They really take advantage of the language gap. So many people literally lying about things. Almost nothing they say is true.
I think its only fair to be transparent. I thought about creating another blog to post that stuff on but again that would just be more secrecy. There is no point. But I understand most people dont like that so at this point its just best I be honest. I like being chill but with kpop my conspiracy and investigative journalism side cant rest. I will post things of that nature from now on.
Its not all completely serious some things are simply opinions and research but those things help understand the larger picture.
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I’m currently reading Eleanor & Park and there was this song, so I had to hear it and omg, it’s really good song!