What are the top three things that happened in the last year or so that make you so confident they are still together? No “sources”. No small coincidences. Real things that make sense. No eye theory allowed! Go!
ok anon, i’ll bite!
-taylor’s sudden and sustained use of baby, child, and father imagery and language from lover era through folklore and evermore and now. karlie has done some of it too.
i could list it all up but this post would get very long and it’s, you know, a touchy subject. but i think it’s been pretty noticeable if you’ve been open to it. plus idk, taylor creates a whole album about a secret love and talks about wanting to be her lover’s end game but somehow it’s not supposed to include starting a family? and if it does it needs to be done publicly?
-taylor’s continued use of the crest symbol (something kaylors identified far earlier than swifties)
beyond the Lover music video, we see it in the evermore album photos, and she’s now used it on The Vault. it’s the snake looking like an S and the butterfly looking like a K, for me. plus.. crests are made for *families*
-social interactions with mutual acquaintances.
for example, cara delevigne going to see taylors SNL performance and also publicly sending karlie bottles of wine. misty copeland dancing for taylor’s AMA performance and then also posting a pic wearing a LIKE A KLOSS tshirt to instagram. lily aldridge wishing karlie a happy birthday using a pic where taylor’s right there in the frame. the haim sisters hanging out both with taylor and with karlie on multiple occasions. etc. and then brandon maxwell adding taylor swift songs to his runway shows, and christian siriano often featuring pics on instagram of taylor in dresses he’s designed. all this while karlie hosted project runway with them as judge and mentor. if you believe taylor and karlie were ever together, these kinds of sustained moments should give you pause because they just wouldn’t happen if there was a breakup.
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-taylor making the noticeable public pivot towards “fictitious songwriting” with folklore and evermore.
this isn’t so much a proof as something that i think really sets her up well for the future. for me, trying to wean the public off of searching for connections between lyrics and her real life is a way of protecting what she has. plus it has allowed her to write about a greater variety of things.
-the red rose dresses
i’m sorry say what you will about twinning being abstract (yes sometimes it is) but, this kind of thing is just obvious. what’s more, we can deduce that taylor started working on that video before karlie started designing her dress, and karlie then designed hers, debuted it, and taylor then went and did the video without change. to a similar extent you could argue a similar pattern with the yellow dresses in 2019 (elle cover/off-white runway) and the orange thing (yntcd/carolina herrera vogue cover/adidas/match.com) that went into 2020. there’s a pattern of one of them debuting a look, the other puts out a similar look, then it gets revealed the other was working on it earlier, etc… plenty of opportunities to course correct these bold primary color twinning moments if they didn’t want anything to do with one another.
-taylor continuing to wear the vsfs ring (which is undeniably a kaylor bat signal)
on significant days such as kissgate anniversary in 2019, while accepting an award in 2021, and at her birthday party just this month. honestly i could write a dissertation on other jewelry things (karlie wearing the cartier necklace through the pandemic onset and her pregnancy, the alison lou of it all… or the awe le duo necklace lolol, but the angel wing ring takes the cake)
moreover, it’s just all this and every other thing, in aggregate. they’ve both maintained my attention!
The visuals in this scene are clear references to a moment in Frozen 2 where Elsa makes a major transformation.
Elsa is singing the song "Show Yourself." The lyrics are very reminiscent of Taylor's "meet me at midnight" sentiment.
I have always been a fortress
Cold secrets deep inside
You have secrets, too
But you don't have to hide
The song builds and builds with the theme of meeting your true self.
The scene shows Elsa aligning all the jewels just right while singing "don't make me wait one moment more!"
And the entire world opens up
It is at this point that she transforms.
Show yourself
Step into the power
Grow yourself
Into something new
You are the one you've been waiting for
All of my life
All of your life
Oh, show yourself
So let's assume the sparkle represents Taylor's true self (as she's shown us again and again in other mvs) and the cloak references reputation (using a self made shield to hide your true self), then on floor 3 she removes the cloak and affixes larger colorful jewels directly to her body. When she enters floor 5, she's already super confident and dripping in diamonds.
My theory is that Taylor will transform herself in the public's eye during the Speak Now tv, to allow her to fully step into 1989 tv era with confidence, and as her true self.
hey for the life of me i can’t find the pants but i’m pretty darn sure that’s an adidas track suit
don’t you think it works with this top?
like, same color same white piping
plus, the three stripes
so not only is it the same color scheme as this,
it’s also, you know, adidas brand 🙈🙈🙈
I'm new here so not quite sure if these ideas had been discussed before... just to write down and share. Happy reading!
On top of the LGBTQ+ related Easter Eggs hidden everywhere of the video, I think Tay also gave us lots of hints about the songs in the Lover album.
Devil roll the dice
He got my heart beat skipping down 16th avenue
https://forkloevermore.tumblr.com/post/652397567631572992/new-thoughts-about-yncd-video-part-2
I don’t like a gold rush, gold rush
I don’t like anticipating my face in a red flush
I don’t like that anyone would die to feel your touch
Everybody wants you, everybody wonders what it would be like to love you
Walk past
Quick brush
I don’t like slow motion, double vision in rose blush
I don’t like that falling feels like flying
‘Til the bone crush
Everybody wants you
But I don’t like a gold rush
may 3rd 2016: taylor “”“"meets”“”“ buzz cut joe, falls for his ”“”“"gorgeous”“”“ face instantly, only to dance w / tom hiddleston - all while having a boyfriend
june 1st 2016: tayvin ENDS and the heavens open up on this glorious day!!!!
june 15th 2016: taylor and tom snog oh so privately on the beach. thus implying the start of their relationship. (despite being secretly in love w/ joe all along i guess??)
all summer long the two fly around the world together. totally a love that’s a “secret im hoping dreaming dying to keep”. joe is apparently her friend throughout all of this - emotional cheating, anyone????
august 3rd 2016: karlie’s 24th birthday
she posts a picture of taylor wearing this outfit:
and later on an “”“unkown”“”“ date, taylor just happens to be recording the back up vocals (implying the vocals are almost done, and thus implying taylor was trying to finish up a demo for SOME REASON on THIS date) wearing the same outfit:
but wait you say: ISN’T SHE STILL WITH TOM????
you right fam. which leaves three choices:
the song is for tom - despite dumping him a month later and having absolutely NO secrecy to hope and dream and die to keep about the relationship, and having met three months ago not “a few weeks ago”
the song is for joe - while she’s with tom. um cheater cheater pumpkin eater miss swift!!!!! do we really want to believe this is the option over her having a beard???
the song (’s demo) is a birthday present for miss kloss
september 7th 2016: hiddlestunt ends. shouldve known she’d be the first to leave!
september 17th 2016: taylor is spotted in nashville wearing this outfit:
which we later see on an “”“"unknown”“”“ date during what sounds like the final production of komh:
(she is wearing a sweater over the shirt, same hat, hair, and makeup doe!!!!!)
sure her and joe could have been ”“”“secretly seeing”“”“ each other romantically a mere ten days after her last relationship ended. sure she decided he was the king of her heart a mere ten days or less into the relationship. or she was cheating long before.
but!!!!!
“we met a few weeks ago”
the met gala was four months and two weeks ago. um. not really a few weeks. (this also seems the most likely as dress says “flashback when you met me / your buzzcut my hair bleached”)
OR if they met on october 12th 2016:
which implies the song to have been written after late november of 2016 (“i recall late november”) which would place their meeting at “a few weeks ago”
OR
implies their meeting was september 28th 2016 (“do you remember the 28th night of september”), widely assumed to be their anniversary, and would place the writing of the song to be in october/november 2016…..(both options which would require us to ignore the meeting lyrics in dress)
What are the top three things that happened in the last year or so that make you so confident they are still together? No “sources”. No small coincidences. Real things that make sense. No eye theory allowed! Go!
ok anon, i’ll bite!
-taylor’s sudden and sustained use of baby, child, and father imagery and language from lover era through folklore and evermore and now. karlie has done some of it too.
i could list it all up but this post would get very long and it’s, you know, a touchy subject. but i think it’s been pretty noticeable if you’ve been open to it. plus idk, taylor creates a whole album about a secret love and talks about wanting to be her lover’s end game but somehow it’s not supposed to include starting a family? and if it does it needs to be done publicly?
-taylor’s continued use of the crest symbol (something kaylors identified far earlier than swifties)
beyond the Lover music video, we see it in the evermore album photos, and she’s now used it on The Vault. it’s the snake looking like an S and the butterfly looking like a K, for me. plus.. crests are made for *families*
-social interactions with mutual acquaintances.
for example, cara delevigne going to see taylors SNL performance and also publicly sending karlie bottles of wine. misty copeland dancing for taylor’s AMA performance and then also posting a pic wearing a LIKE A KLOSS tshirt to instagram. lily aldridge wishing karlie a happy birthday using a pic where taylor’s right there in the frame. the haim sisters hanging out both with taylor and with karlie on multiple occasions. etc. and then brandon maxwell adding taylor swift songs to his runway shows, and christian siriano often featuring pics on instagram of taylor in dresses he’s designed. all this while karlie hosted project runway with them as judge and mentor. if you believe taylor and karlie were ever together, these kinds of sustained moments should give you pause because they just wouldn’t happen if there was a breakup.
***
-taylor making the noticeable public pivot towards “fictitious songwriting” with folklore and evermore.
this isn’t so much a proof as something that i think really sets her up well for the future. for me, trying to wean the public off of searching for connections between lyrics and her real life is a way of protecting what she has. plus it has allowed her to write about a greater variety of things.
-the red rose dresses
i’m sorry say what you will about twinning being abstract (yes sometimes it is) but, this kind of thing is just obvious. what’s more, we can deduce that taylor started working on that video before karlie started designing her dress, and karlie then designed hers, debuted it, and taylor then went and did the video without change. to a similar extent you could argue a similar pattern with the yellow dresses in 2019 (elle cover/off-white runway) and the orange thing (yntcd/carolina herrera vogue cover/adidas/match.com) that went into 2020. there’s a pattern of one of them debuting a look, the other puts out a similar look, then it gets revealed the other was working on it earlier, etc… plenty of opportunities to course correct these bold primary color twinning moments if they didn’t want anything to do with one another.
-taylor continuing to wear the vsfs ring (which is undeniably a kaylor bat signal)
on significant days such as kissgate anniversary in 2019, while accepting an award in 2021, and at her birthday party just this month. honestly i could write a dissertation on other jewelry things (karlie wearing the cartier necklace through the pandemic onset and her pregnancy, the alison lou of it all… or the awe le duo necklace lolol, but the angel wing ring takes the cake)
moreover, it’s just all this and every other thing, in aggregate. they’ve both maintained my attention!
I'M WATCHING MISS AMERICANA AGAIN AND CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME? SHE IS SO LOUD
“So with Phoebe I reached out and I sent her this song called Nothing New which I wrote when I was 22, and it’s really really special to me because it was the first time I was not a shiny new artist. I was on my fourth album and I felt like — I think this happens a lot of artists where they have their breakthrough moment and then the moment after that is really hard for them because they’re just not getting the same [attention].” —Taylor Swift on Nothing New (x)
“I just was thinking, “Okay, so we have mirrorballs in the middle of a dance floor because they reflect light. They are broken a million times, and that’s what makes them so shiny. We have people like that in society. They hang there, and every time they break, it entertains us.” And when you shine a light on them, it’s this glittering, fantastic thing, but then a lot of the time when the spotlight isn’t on them they’re just still there, up on a pedestal, but nobody’s watching them.” —Taylor Swift talking about mirrorball on lpss
Taylor Swift x Fame
Lions, Tigers, and Bears
Taylor’s current tiktok profile pic is the bear photo
And 2022 is the year of the Tiger
Did anyone else think it was weird that Karlie was asked about what's in her bag and started talking about suitcases instead? Weren't we just talking about the suitcase in the WTNY Taymoji pack? And how WTNY was a love story hidden in a song about NY? It's funny because it's a suitcase Taymoji but Taylor actually sings "bags", not "suitcases". Maybe this was Karlie's way of confirming that anon was right, and the "we" and "our" in the song are Kaylor. I always thought it was a cute take!
@9w1ft is queen of Taymojis! Love that pack too. We were just talking about it!