A More In Depth Analysis Of My Theory That Peace Is From Both Taylor And Karlie’s Perspective. The

A more in depth analysis of my theory that Peace is from both Taylor and Karlie’s perspective. The bold is Taylor speaking, the normal text is Karlie and the italicized is my own interpretation. :) Hope you like it! I’ll maybe add pictures to another post later. 

Our coming-of-age has come and gone

In reference to the golden Kaylor age of glass closeting in the public eye 2014 - 2016 (I say 2016 but you could tell she was starting to want to hide then, Taylor) 

Suddenly this summer, it’s clear

Cruel Summer reference for me like the summer her gives her clarity it’s been cruel. 

I never had the courage of my convictions

and she never leaves well enough alone think of kissgate aftermath and 2016 another cruel summer mess

As long as danger is near

And it’s just around the corner, darlin’

Taylor sings “darlin’” alot on Lover so that is partially why I think she’s speaking this part. 

‘Cause it lives in me

Taylor always thinks “who could live with this” the drama of her life and the danger of not being safe to live in the closet or out of it. Dual meaning. 

No, I could never give you peace

This is what they are both saying to each other throughout the song. 

- Taylor

“But I’m a fire and I'll keep your brittle heart warm

Call it what you want ‘(s)he built a fire to keep me warm. So kk builds the fires. 

If your cascade, ocean wave blues come

Taylor speaks alot about her blues from reputation to folklore that she suffers from depression or sadness waves. Karlie is saying if your blues come again I will build the fire with my heart. I think they both suffer from this as most people do but I picture Karlie the one saying no matter what I will take care of you in sadness. 

All these people think love’s for show

But I would die for you in secret

I think this is reference to Taylor’s fans. If Karlie, God Forbid, were to die right now no one would know she’s the love of Taylors life unless Taylor said something. She would sacrifice herself in secret for Taylor. This is the deepest line to me. She (Karlie) is referencing Taylor’s fanbase they freak out over a like from a man on Instagram everyone thinks it’s for show but she would die for her in secret.

The devil’s in the details, but you got a friend in me

The details being the Easter Eggs to Kaylors and the drudgery of stunting. The devil is in the details of her public persona and Taylor’s public persona. ‘you got a friend in me’ is my favorite line! I think about Karlie’s tweet that she will always have Taylor’s back and then the line from ‘It’s Nice to Have a Friend’ - ‘have my back, yeah, everyday, it’s nice to have a friend’. Then Karlie is saying ‘you have a friend in me!’ in Peace. 

Would it be enough if I could never give you peace?”

They both are vowing this to each other it’s beautiful.

- Karlie

Your integrity makes me seem small - T

I think this line could either be T or K. Taylor in the 2015 era of Calvin and Karlie maybe wanting to be free. The opposite goes for Karlie now and Taylor. Karlie seems to be the one to feel like her ‘integrity’ is compromised because she is associated with a K*shner in America right now. Taylor can’t and won’t associate with Karlie right now in the public sphere because of this. 

You paint dreamscapes on the wall - K

Taylor has been painting dreamscapes since rep era. I think this line is like them musing about their habits when they were together in Taylor’s pre-rep phase. Taylor even painted the dreamscapes in the cardigan music video. Also Taylor is saying “you” then the next line is “I”. 

I talk shit with my friends, it’s like I’m wasting your honor -T

I think this line could apply to either of them again. They both feel like they are wasting away the other’s promise to each other because they are closeted. In the public sphere they both worry they are wasting the others honor.

And you know that I’d swing with you for the fences - K

Baseball reference Karlie loves Baseball (me too girl). 

Sit with you in the trenches - T

Ok, I think this is T because she references her grandfather in epiphany in the trenches. She is her grandfather’s granddaughter. A James to her Betty reference if you will. She would sit in the trenches with K. Which is essentially what’s happening right now. They are in the trenches. 

Give you my wild -K

This line reminds me of ‘maybe you ran with the wolves and refused to settle down’ is definitely about Karlie!!! Also the atticus book that the anon told me about, 

give you a child -T

I think this one could be either of them again. It’s a suggestion. As the song goes on I see it as they are starting to both cut to the chase and talking directly to each other like their fears are coming out one on top of the other.

Give you the silence that only comes when two people understand each other - T

Taylor sings about silence on YAIL ‘you can hear it in the silence’ the silence on Cornelia Street when you can hear it literally at the end of the song. Taylor is saying the silence is comfortable they completely understand each other and their love in the silence.

Family that I chose, now that I see your brother as my brother

Is it enough? - K

Taylor in that one instagram post where she says ‘when your friends feel like family’ is with her Austin and Karlie. I’ll post it if I find it. This one line has really helped I think us see the whole song from Karlie’s perspective too. 

A More In Depth Analysis Of My Theory That Peace Is From Both Taylor And Karlie’s Perspective. The

But there’s robbers to the east, clowns to the west - T

But the people who come for us will be coming for us and I can’t guarantee the peace of all the drama. That comes with her public brand.

I’d give you my sunshine, give you my best - K

Sunshine is Karlie. Periodt. She will try her best always for T. 

But the rain is always gonna come if you’re standin’ with me - T

I like that it ends with this line before the chorus again. It started with Taylor and ended with her. It’s always a fear of hers that the rain is going to come and scare away her true love she’s so scared of it being a ‘dealbreaker’ in her relationships. At the end though it feels like they are both standing in the rain staring up. Like as long as you know the rain is going to come when you’re standing with me and you choose that for yourself, then we will be fine. I think it ends on a positive note. That is generally is a happy beautiful song sounds like vows to me. 

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4 years ago

Things I want erased from my memory:

You're the West Village

Me! Out now (on Lesbian Visibility Day)

I came straight from Rome

Female ballet dancer trying to get to Taylor in Lover performance

I want to thank my boyfriend Adam

Snuck in through the garden gate

They're all wearing these robes btw, it's like an actual fantasy

Emily, I feel like our relationship got to the next level

Our secret moments in a crowded room, they got no idea about me and you

Taylor tagged as a daisy // now I'm your daisy

I like women, particularly gay women

Your eyes are really blue... damn it, did I blink?

The number thirteen

Fell down the rabbit hole URL

I don't want you like a best friend

Got drunk and made fun of the way you talk

The Male Perspective™

My E-e-e-e, she's my friend now

You say you wanted me, but you're sleeping with him

Wear you like a necklace

Something happens when everybody finds out

She's a queen, selling dreams, selling makeup and magazines

Allegedly

I left a note on the door with a joke we made

She's a crook who got caught

Women secretly touching hands in "The Man" MV

"Honey" in Taylor's playlist

Orange Girl™

The shape of your name still spells out pain

I loved you in secret

"Breathe" = platonic friendship song

Everybody's watching her but she's looking at you

And that's the thing about illicit affairs

Thirteenth person to walk out in VSFS // thirteenth person in "Bad Blood" MV

My man and I've been through a lot together

The Eye Theory™

Glass shattered on the white cloth, everybody moved on

She's got shiny abs

You wear the same jewels that I gave you as you bury me

Middle name Joseph

Exile as single on August third

Gave me the blues and then purple-pink skies

Love locked down

When you talk to me like I'm your friend Diana, I'm not Diana

On the way home

Betty, will you kiss me?

And you can want who you want, boys and boys and girls and girls

Relax - I'll try

That she never loved me

I like a cup of Joe in the morning

My girl

I grew a beard to be taken seriously as a producer at the Grammy's

That's the price I paid for seven years in heaven

Have a great summer knowing how disgustingly beautiful you are

Gay pride is what makes me me

I'd fall from grace just to touch your face

It shouldn't be a big deal who you love

Karlie filming Taylor performing "Dress"

I wanna kiss a girl

That's fine, I'll tell mine that you're gaaaay

I've tried ×2

"She's my sunshine" in Taylor's playlist

Or hide in the closet

Kissgate

A lifetime of adventures together

Riptide cover

Fifth person in the dive bar

Every gender neutral interview (person, they/them)

Are you gonna get a beard like Taylor Swift?

Angel boyfriend of one year

Watching Karlie watch Taylor during this moment of Taylor watching Karlie was everything

Shade never made anybody less gay

That was my first girl kiss

I am obsessed with you. If you look out your window and down the street about 200 yards, you may see a big white van parked on the street. I am inside the van with a telescope and computer. Just trying to catch a glimpse of Kelsey.

Dancing in your Levi's

When I walked up to the podium I think that I forgot to say your name

We're both normal girls™

As a birthday present from the media

I get mystified by how this city screams your name

I want her midnights

Like I'm not your favorite town, I'm New York City

Your kitchen or mine?

The girl in my story has always been you

August slipped away

You're so gorgeous, it's hard to talk to you

IMPo0RtaNt™

The skeletons in both our closets plotted hard to fuck this up

Let's show our pride

Staying friends would iron it out so nice

Josh's playlist

If that's you, pad yourself on the back, I love you so much

(Pisces) (Male) (Producer)

I don't like a gold rush

I can't dare to dream about you anymore

Now you try on calling me baby like trying on clothes

Sorry for not making you my center fold

Gay texan picture

It's new, the shape of your body

Now she's hiding in a closet. Now she's locked in that closet.

3 years ago

taylor isn’t stupid

taylor swift is famous for the easter eggs, hidden codes, and secret symbology she leaves for fans, giving them clues as to who her songs are about (or supposed to be about), when new music or content is coming, and other insights into her life and what her art represents.

she posted red shoes on her 22nd birthday in 2011 as a clue to let people know the title of her next album - red:

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she posted a picture of herself playing scrabble in the fall of 2018 as a clue that the count down to her new single would start on national scrabble day six months later:

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so this brings us to the lover era

taylor hid so many clues in this era that she was not straight and we know taylor hides clues because of examples like the ones i provided.  she’s maniacal and unhinged but it is 100% what she does.

the first big thing is she released her single me! on LESBIAN VISIBILITY DAY:

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i don’t even think taylor is a lesbian 😭i think she’s some brand of bisexual but this still feels like a signal that she isn’t straight.  we know taylor knows about which national days are what because she keeps up with it all enough to easter egg national scrabble day plus this is her big “lgbt ally era” (🙄) so you would think she would be keeping up with the days of awareness for members of the lgbt community.

and whether you think taylor was trying to come out that way or not, a lot of the internet did, and they went and wrote articles about it (lots of articles) (more on that later).

then there was the bi flag colored “proud” bracelet she pictured on her wrist and posted to ig:

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turns out a fan made this for her because they were bi and proud about it but i don’t understand why she pictured that bracelet, she didn’t have to, she could have turned it so you couldn’t see the word proud.  regardless more articles got written about how people thought taylor was coming out as not straight.

then there was the straightest gayest clusterfuck that was the yntcd music video in which taylor basically made herself the center of a gay pride riot in a gay trailer part.  in the music video she represented all the gay pride flags and she posed with two herself:

the bi pride flag (yeah some people say there’s green at the top of her hair, i don’t care the colors are there):

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and the pansexual pride flag:

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both these pride flags were not represented anywhere else in the music video - just those scenes with taylor.

this prompted more people to wonder if taylor came out

it also prompted a lot of people to accuse taylor of queerbaiting, appropriating and infringing on gay culture, and overstepping her bounds as an ally.  all responses to yntcd were loud 

are you noticing a pattern? the lover era was just: taylor does something gay.  people write articles about how they think she just came out/otherwise comment on her sexuality.

now you know taylor, who is obsessed with the media’s perception of her would have known about this.  you know her publicist would have been duty bound to let her know, “hey taylor, all this gay stuff you’re doing? it’s making people speculate that you’re gay.”

and you would think that maybe if taylor didn’t like or appreciate this speculation around her she would have toned down the gay for her next project.  instead she aired miss americana in which she listed gay pride as one of the things that made her, her.

as if that weren’t enough the next album she dropped was extraordinarily gay:

in folklore you have betty in which taylor sings about wanting to kiss a girl and yeah maybe it’s “from a male perspective” but 1. that’s a gay thing to do anyway and 2. the character that is the supposed male is named after an irl girl.  we also get seven in which taylor sings to a childhood love who is a girl and she says they’ll have to hide in the closet.  taylor isn’t stupid.  she knows what being “in the closet” means.  she is a writer and a brilliant one at that.  she could have said anything- hide in the corner, hide in the cabinet, she very specifically chose the phrase that means to hide the truth about your sexuality.

and lest we forget about illicit affairs in which taylor sings to a lover who is cheating on a man with her.

and that’s just the explicit stuff, the entire album is laced with queer themes and coding other than just those songs.

many people wrote about and commented on how gay folklore was.

so the next thing taylor does?  drops another super gay album including another love song canonically about a woman.

so antis, take note.  taylor is not stupid.  she doesn’t mind the speculation about her sexuality.  i’m not saying she’s for sure gay.  but if she’s not she absolutely is leaning into stirring on speculation anyway.  and tbh if she’s ok with baiting this heavily and she’s not gay she might just be a terrible person? so reconsider your hetlor stance because a straight taylor = a baiting and unhinged taylor.  so you don’t need to keep policing gaylors and telling them not to speculate about taylor’s sexuality.  she is signalling to us that she is not straight which she 100% does not have to do.  no one made her pose with the pan flag,  no one made her write seven, no one made her include gay pride in a list of traits that define her in a documentary that she produced.  this is purposeful on her part.  it doesn’t mean she’s for sure gay but it does mean she wants people to wonder if she’s not straight.

3 years ago

nonono she said “I LOVE YOU KARLIE” on her bday then she said “can’t wait for a lifetime of adventures together” and now we have “I’m never gonna love again” and “ forever is the sweetest con” im just going through it today, sorry maddy

happy first anniversary of exile being released as a single for karlie's birthday. i could go into the whole "you're the west village" -> "you were my town" .. "we rule the kingdom inside my room" -> "you were my crown" ... "stay here honey i don't wanna share" -> "i can see you staring honey, with his arms around your body" .. "cruelty wins in the movies" -> "i think i've seen this film before and i didn't like the ending" ... "salute to me like the american dream/i'm your american queen" -> "you're not my homeland anymore" .. "fighting with a true love is boxing with no gloves" -> " i can see you staring like you'd get your knuckles bloody for me/those eyes add insult to injury" ... "we were crazy to think that this could work" -> "we always walked a very thin line" .. "remember how i said i'd die for you/i'd marry you with paper rings/you know for me it's always you/i stay when it's hard or it's wrong or we're making mistakes/at every table i'll save you a seat/baby all at once this is enough" -> "i gave so many signs/you didn't even see the signs" thing but it might b too much for a tuesday morning 😑🚬

3 years ago

TO UKRAINIAN FRIENDS

If you are looking for an emergency exit from Ukraine, Poland will open EIGHT safety points on the border with Ukraine (you will get warm food, medical help and from there you will be guided to safety) in two of our voivodeships: lubelskie and podkarpackie. It is confirmed by the Polish Secretary of State in the Chancellery of the Prime Minister, Paweł Szefernaker.

SOURCES:

https://www.rp.pl/konflikty-zbrojne/art35748991-szefernaker-na-granicy-z-ukraina-powstaja-punkty-recepcyjne-dla-uchodzcow

https://www.wprost.pl/polityka/10633681/polska-reaguje-na-agresje-rosji-na-ukraine-powstana-punkty-dla-uchodzcow.html

TO UKRAINIAN FRIENDS

I've marked those voivodeships on the map!

Please share because it can save lives!!!!!!

3 years ago

What are the top three things that happened in the last year or so that make you so confident they are still together? No “sources”. No small coincidences. Real things that make sense. No eye theory allowed! Go!

What Are The Top Three Things That Happened In The Last Year Or So That Make You So Confident They Are

ok anon, i’ll bite!

-taylor’s sudden and sustained use of baby, child, and father imagery and language from lover era through folklore and evermore and now. karlie has done some of it too.

i could list it all up but this post would get very long and it’s, you know, a touchy subject. but i think it’s been pretty noticeable if you’ve been open to it. plus idk, taylor creates a whole album about a secret love and talks about wanting to be her lover’s end game but somehow it’s not supposed to include starting a family? and if it does it needs to be done publicly?

-taylor’s continued use of the crest symbol (something kaylors identified far earlier than swifties)

beyond the Lover music video, we see it in the evermore album photos, and she’s now used it on The Vault. it’s the snake looking like an S and the butterfly looking like a K, for me. plus.. crests are made for *families*

-social interactions with mutual acquaintances.

for example, cara delevigne going to see taylors SNL performance and also publicly sending karlie bottles of wine. misty copeland dancing for taylor’s AMA performance and then also posting a pic wearing a LIKE A KLOSS tshirt to instagram. lily aldridge wishing karlie a happy birthday using a pic where taylor’s right there in the frame. the haim sisters hanging out both with taylor and with karlie on multiple occasions. etc. and then brandon maxwell adding taylor swift songs to his runway shows, and christian siriano often featuring pics on instagram of taylor in dresses he’s designed. all this while karlie hosted project runway with them as judge and mentor. if you believe taylor and karlie were ever together, these kinds of sustained moments should give you pause because they just wouldn’t happen if there was a breakup.

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honorable mentions:

-taylor making the noticeable public pivot towards “fictitious songwriting” with folklore and evermore.

this isn’t so much a proof as something that i think really sets her up well for the future. for me, trying to wean the public off of searching for connections between lyrics and her real life is a way of protecting what she has. plus it has allowed her to write about a greater variety of things.

-the red rose dresses

i’m sorry say what you will about twinning being abstract (yes sometimes it is) but, this kind of thing is just obvious. what’s more, we can deduce that taylor started working on that video before karlie started designing her dress, and karlie then designed hers, debuted it, and taylor then went and did the video without change. to a similar extent you could argue a similar pattern with the yellow dresses in 2019 (elle cover/off-white runway) and the orange thing (yntcd/carolina herrera vogue cover/adidas/match.com) that went into 2020. there’s a pattern of one of them debuting a look, the other puts out a similar look, then it gets revealed the other was working on it earlier, etc… plenty of opportunities to course correct these bold primary color twinning moments if they didn’t want anything to do with one another.

-taylor continuing to wear the vsfs ring (which is undeniably a kaylor bat signal)

on significant days such as kissgate anniversary in 2019, while accepting an award in 2021, and at her birthday party just this month. honestly i could write a dissertation on other jewelry things (karlie wearing the cartier necklace through the pandemic onset and her pregnancy, the alison lou of it all… or the awe le duo necklace lolol, but the angel wing ring takes the cake)

moreover, it’s just all this and every other thing, in aggregate. they’ve both maintained my attention!

3 years ago

“Up on YOUR Roof with a Schoolgirl Crush”

In the Making of a Song video for “King of My Heart” Taylor sings the lyrics as “with all these nights we’re spending up on YOUR roof with a schoolgirl crush.”

“Up On YOUR Roof With A Schoolgirl Crush”
“Up On YOUR Roof With A Schoolgirl Crush”
“Up On YOUR Roof With A Schoolgirl Crush”

Video - at 6:30.

So who had a rooftop in 2016 when this song was being written?

Lily’s and Karlie’s addresses were public info.

Lily’s Building

Lily’s building had a rooftop for hanging out.

“Up On YOUR Roof With A Schoolgirl Crush”

In a photoshoot she did for Cass Bird and Telegraph magazine, they used Lily’s East Village neighborhood for the shoot, including up on the roof.

“Up On YOUR Roof With A Schoolgirl Crush”

Karlie’s Building

Karlie’s two-story building had a garden, garden gate, and balcony but no rooftop to hang out on.

“Up On YOUR Roof With A Schoolgirl Crush”
“Up On YOUR Roof With A Schoolgirl Crush”
“Up On YOUR Roof With A Schoolgirl Crush”

Joe’s Building

Articles report that Joe was living in Crouch End when he met Taylor. I don’t think his place had a rooftop to hang out on from photos of the area.

The Bridge

I’ve written about the “King of My Heart” lyrics in other posts, including the British, model, and wlw references, so let’s just look at the bridge here after the roof lyric.

“Drinking beer out of plastic cups”

Is this a reference to Taylor and Karlie at the Knicks game in 2014? Maybe. But the 2014 era doesn’t seem to match the rest of the song, especially since this line is after “my broken bones are mending.”

“Up On YOUR Roof With A Schoolgirl Crush”

“Say you fancy me not fancy stuff”

Another British 🇬🇧 reference in a song with many British references. So this line could fit Lily or Joe.

The Making of a Song video was recorded in September 2016. The Nashville and LA scenes, including the rooftop lyric scene, were filmed September 19-21. (Link) The song appears to have been started in early September from the Cornelia Street scene at the beginning of the video and some people think it may have been started as early as August. All of this is before September 28.

4 years ago
Taylor Swift - Lover
Taylor Swift - Lover
Taylor Swift - Lover
Taylor Swift - Lover
Taylor Swift - Lover
Taylor Swift - Lover
Taylor Swift - Lover

Taylor Swift - Lover

2 years ago

I'm genT13 on twitter!!!

2 years ago

y’all really weren’t listening when taylor said so i wander through these nights, i prefer hiding in plain sight, my fourth drink in my hand these desperate prayers of a cursed man, spilling out to you for free, but darling, darling, please, you wouldn't take my word for it if you knew who was talking, if you knew where i was walking, to a house, not a home, all alone 'cause nobody's there, where i pace in my pen and my friends found friends who care, no one sees when you lose when you're playing solitaire.

2 years ago

Jaw dropping......🤯🤯

Lover house hallway is freaking similar to Victoria secret fashion show where Taylor meet Karlie..

Jaw Dropping......🤯🤯
Jaw Dropping......🤯🤯
Jaw Dropping......🤯🤯

Bye..... 😭

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