I'm so fucking sick of sysmeds fucking ignoring OSDD-1. Sure they'll include us in their bullshit premise that DID/OSDD is only caused by trauma, and is the only way to be a system. But the second they start talking in anything but simple sound bites we don't fucking exist. Every fucking misguided argument and scrap of evidence they cite is about DID and only DID.
And like, there's so many mistakes they make. They act like the DSM isn't the most funded and peer reviewed document in psychology (and that it needs to be read between the lines). They ignore that there are systems out there that don't have DID/OSDD. They ignore that cause of a system and cause of a disorder aren't necessarily the same.
So it's no surprise that they also ignore the fact that none of what they ever say is about OSDD systems. We're always an afterthought or part of some asinine abbreviation that's probably only mentioned because of autocorrect/ autocomplete.
Why do neurotypical people have all these unspoken rules. Why is it considered proper social interaction to be fake. They’re so weird
Hi! I know you don't know me but my bf suffers from did and has only recently realized this and started treatment. Older alters of his say that there used to be an inner world and one even told me that they think a 'system collapse' has happened, so I guess my question is what all information can you offer me to understand and help him get his inner world back and restore any communication at all with his alters. Thanks in advance! And sorry if I'm being rude!
hi, i am in no way an expert in innerworlds so this may be a bit tough for me to answer. i can give you what i have though.
i’m also not sure about what a system collapse is, but i know innerworlds can sometimes be less accessible to certain alters or can be harder to get to when something causes an increase in dissociative barriers. i’d try to figure out if there’s something that might have triggered this lack of communication to happen and try to figure out how to deal with it or cope with what’s going on. if ur bf has a therapist, it would be good to talk to them about it, even if it’s not about the did/innerworld disappearance, but about what most likely was the cause. if it has to do with undiscovered trauma tho, he should not go digging into that.
he could try reaching out in his mind to specific alters, see if they’ll respond. he could also try to build an innerworld manually; not all innerworlds automatically exist, some are made. i have a few pictures on my phone from a post i saw maybe a year ago with some innerworld building tips. here they are:
also, i recently made a post on system communication and journaling for summer system education week. it’s got a lot of tips and resources to go with them. here’s the post
hope this helps, i wish u and ur bf good luck with this
self help comic yes i cried when i thought of this and drew it immediately
gentle reminders in case you need it:
it’s ok to start “late”
drink water if you haven’t for hours
it’s ok if u need more time than other people
it’s ok to feel what you’re feeling
you have a cute smile
you make people happy
you have plenty of good traits
you are loved
you deserve all the good things
it’s ok if you relapse, it doesn’t make u weak
bad days are just temporary
tomorrow is a new day
you can heal again
I’m proud of you
It’s tough to widdle this one down into 4 panels, but I figured I’d write about this one as well. I think “Guessing who’s out” could be a comic in its own right really.
I as a system do not expect people to always know who’s out! That’s not the point of this.
In my experience (and this may vary for others), if you think there’s been a switch, making sure the one in the front is okay before delving into who’s out is priority. That way if something was a trigger, the alter fronting can be grounded before handling the topic.
Systems are always encouraged to add input.
someone asked me about 12th house placements recently and it stuck around...'will it always feel like this? like you're walking in space without a spacesuit?'
I've let this question stay in my mind for some time and I feel like an answer is being shaped in my mind.
12th housers' main issue is knowing on some level what is going on. but when i say on some level, i mean on a very deep and hidden level. the neptunian connection to the human subconscious that we all talk about is real.
so people with 12th house placements often feel naked in front of these currents. like, there is an amount of healthy delusion people have to sustain in order to not feel constantly threatened by reality. you just need to remain centered in your own self and body, in your own abilities, because this is what protects you from disintegration. and when you're so sensitive towards other people's thoughts and motivation and intentions, to the dynamics in the world, you are forced to be the witness to a lot of cruelty. it takes you out of your own skin and you may find yourself drifting, feeling lost in life.
I've actually noticed feelings of paranoia are quite a common occurrence with 12th house people. you have to deal with this sensitivity in some way. when you listen to it too much, you get paranoid because you feel like you have no agency, nothing firm to protect you. you're out there for everyone. might sound a bit too dramatic to someone but 12th housers frequently feel like they can't shut themselves off from people's "hidden" side. and that feeling of dread somehow mixes with your intuition and makes you create haunting dark scenarios in your head. this brings you to the common dilemma: is it paranoia or intuition??
another way for 12th house people to deal with their intuition is by denying it. this is even worse because you become shut out from your most valuable source of insight and you can't make choices that are fully aligned with you. this often happens to me - i shrug off a feeling i get about something and try to use my mind instead cuz I'm like "screw this mumbo jumbo, I'm simply delusional". and then it turns out trusting this feeling would've saved me a lot of trouble.
I'm not saying you shouldn't think things through as well. it's just that suppressing your intuition cuz you're afraid of this insight has never led anywhere good and you're signing up for a half life like this.
the keys to using the potential of 12th house placements instead of denying it or being consumed by it are two:
first, you need to stop shrugging off your insights. more often than not, you're going to be in situations where you sense that people say things they don't mean or that they feel something they won't admit or sometimes aren't even aware of. and you're going to question yourself:
how can i possibly know what this person feels better than they do? how is my authority on them bigger than their own?
i think these are proper concerns and it's good to not jump to conclusions or force others into conversations they're not ready to be a part of.
but trusting your senses over what others want you to believe is the right course of action. i feel somehow audacious even writing this down. because this approach takes a lot of adjusting in order to not turn into a self serving monster or into someone who just can't listen to anyone else's point of view.
but still, faith in yourself is the way to go. it's the ultimate piscean gift. when you're armed with patience and trust in the process and your place in it, it gets easier to trust your intuition. you stop being triggered by it. you stop trying to draw a "confession" out of people. you stop feeling sad and rejected without being able to explain why. you stop trying to convince yourself in things that seem reasonable but don't quite make sense to you. you stop living by the rules people expect you to follow but never made you feel whole.
second, embodiment is the next step. your body is what stands between you and getting lost in the collective, in everyone else. you need to be able to withdraw back into your own autonomy.
work out. try to sharpen your senses and to stay in touch with them. make a ritual out of listening to the needs of your body just like you listen to everyone else.
don't stay working just a tad bit more or listening to a friend's problems when your body wants food or to pee rn. don't put your body second. make it a priority. by showing it you hear it and value it you're going to be more aware of it and it's going to serve you better as a protection between you and the world. you need to be able to trust your feet and feel grounded to cross the waters of the collection subconscious. the 12th house rules feet for a reason.
All of this.
We knew we had ADHDbrain *long* before diagnosis.
We knew we had BPD *long* before even all the symptoms were showing.
We knew we even were Multiple v. early on (but were gaslit by psychiatry).
You know you better than anyone else.
Gatekeeping culture is like: “don’t get your information online it’s too easy😡!!!” Then offer “find research papers online it’s really easy🙄”
Then block you.
Self diagnosing isn’t TikTok videos and random blogs. It’s literally months to years of research. There’s a lot of reasons why someone can’t get professionally diagnosed.
Misdiagnoses happen a lot
People aren’t taken seriously
It’s expensive asf
Its inaccessible
People want to adopt
People want the right to their bodily autonomy
I’m disappointed when I go online and see my bullies are now nurses. That’s kinda the same thing when I go on here and see professionally diagnosed people who shit on undiagnosed for posting coping mechanisms.
Stop calling people “the problem” for coping. The real issue is people who post any “if you have these… you might have” THATS DANGEROUS. what isn’t dangerous is:
Finding coping mechanisms
Find organization tools to function
Therapy
Talking about experiences
Researching extensively on traits
Documenting
Unmasking
Printing off quizzes or research articles from well established resources (Embracing Autism, ASAN, AIM, awn network, A4A)
Stimming (if it isn’t harming)
Advocating for diagnosis is one thing. Being a bully online is another. It’s a disability not a quirk, a lot of self diagnosed people know it’s a disability. We can identify the actual problems in the self diagnosing community but a lot of us aren’t those.
We’re valid
HAPPY ACE AWARENESS WEEK FROM AUSTRALIA!!!
Is there any evidence beyond anecdotal that systems with ADHD/autistic systems are more likely to be "fictive-heavy" due to having special interests? I've seen that claim floating around tumblr as if its medical fact, and it feels very strangely infantilizing, as if having ADHD/autism makes one inherently more fantasy-prone. Have professionals even written about "fictive-heavy" systems? Most literature I've read mentions fictional introjects in general as, maybe, a footnote at best.
Anon, I feel like you're coming at this from the wrong angle. Being autistic or having ADHD does lend to hyperfixations, including fiction. This is not the same as being fantasy prone, nor does it negate the legitimacy of DID or introjects. MANY aspects of DID/OSDD are still underresearched. Lack of more documentation of fictives in professional literature does not make them any less real or prevalent.
As to whether this is more common in autistic/ADHD systems, I don't know for sure. It's not something I could prove to you with stats; though the logic and reasoning follows.
I don't think it is at ALL infantalizing to note that fictives seem more common in these systems due to hyperfixations on fiction/media. To say so would indicate that fictives in general have a negative connotation or are something to be looked down upon which is simply not true.
Input and discussion on any/all questions is encouraged.
TERFS, don't interact. Transfeminine system.
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