J0233 - Reylo

Same Energy

— or, two (2) emotionally constipated idiots on their way to get the girl

Bendemption Evidence (gifs & commentary) pt 2b

Tl;dr - Poe and Rey’s interrogation scenes are direct mirrors of each other. The contrast allows us to see the beginning of Kylo’s redemption as part of the Reylo story. While with Poe, we’re meant to see Kylo as an unfeeling villain (like how Vader started), by the end we’re supposed to see him as a conflicted human being (like redeemed Vader).

There is a reason why they’re so similar yet opposite. (There’s also Vader-demption parallels here.)

This is split up into two parts - 2a is the capture, 2b is the interrogation. Part 2a -> x

A/N: This didn’t end up being as detailed as I wanted because I realized a lot of the pieces I could use in other, smaller comparisons. And this was already WAY out of control length-wise.

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Imagine thinking Adam Driver is ugly

I may not ship reylo but DAMN I can see why people do this MANS holy FUCK

Kylo Ren endures years of being manipulated, mentally/physically abused, tormented, and used by Snoke - never standing up for himself. By accepting this treatment, it’s obvious how little he values his own life. He believes this is his fate.

Rey endures 10 minutes of being teased and tortured by Snoke, which Kylo has probably experienced since day one of the dark side and kills him without hesitation. He knew what he had to do. 

Had he killed Snoke himself years ago, it would show that Kylo believed he had something worth living for - but he didn’t.

What does this tell us?

Not only does Kylo Ren value Rey’s life more than his own, but he feels that she gives his life meaning.

Here’s why.

Killing Snoke not only saves Rey but also saves himself. Rey made him feel like he was worth saving.

“You’re not alone.”

“Neither are you.”

He proceeds to ask her to join him, a desperate plea to rule the galaxy with the girl who began the transformation of Kylo Ren into Ben Solo. Let’s break down the dialogue:

“It’s time to let old things die.”

It’s time for Ben to let go of Kylo, it’s time for Rey to let go of the past. 

“Snoke, Skywalker,”

The black and white rules their mentors have taught them,

“the Sith, the Jedi,”

He realizes he can’t fully devote himself to being a Jedi because although he feels the call to the light, the anger he feels from striking down his father will always be with him. Luke says it himself. (”…anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.” - Yoda)

“the Rebels,”

With the Sith and the Jedi gone, the Rebels will have nothing to rebel against. 

“Let it all die. Rey, I want you to join me.”

Let’s both forget the past and how it has defined us up to this point, and together start a new path with clean slates.

“We can rule together and bring a new order to the galaxy.”

He never states how they will rule. To rule something can also mean to govern something, which could create a regulation and peace in the galaxy. Just because he uses the word rule does not mean his intentions were total domination.

(Rey:) “Don’t do this Ben. Please, don’t go this way.”

Like how I described above, she hears him and goes straight to the dark (just like she did with Luke’s first lesson on the force).

(Kylo:) “No, no, you’re still holding on. Let go! Do you want to know the truth about your parents, or have you always known? You’ve just hidden it away…”

This can be applied to both sides - Kylo has always known the truth about his parents and how they come from the light (”You may try, but you cannot deny the truth that is your family.” - Tekka, The Force Awakens). Rey has always known the truth about her parents and how they were no one. Both characters hid the truth away. So when he says this to her, it’s just another thing that relates them, almost as if he’s saying it to himself as well. 

We all know what happens after that. “You’re nothing, but not to me” brings us back to the point of this post. Rey isn’t nothing to him because she brings meaning and value to his existence. 

Rey may come from nothing, but to Kylo? She is everything.

Wow, in that last gif it really looks like kylo is about to kiss rey. didn’t adam asked rian something about a kiss?

He does!

And my baby girl Rey wants it too.

And Adam did asked Rian if Kylo has ever kissed a girl:

Interviewer: So … is this the first time Kylo has ever held hands with a girl?

Rian: I actually talked about that with Adam [Driver]. Adam was like, “So … have I actually kissed a girl before?” I would think maybe he has. Maybe after hours in the Jedi camp, there was a game of spin the bottle — “spin the lightsaber…”

(source)

Why would Adam (a very methodic actor) ever ask this question to the director and writer of the film if it wasn’t relevant to the story and his character? Maybe they thought about including a kiss during this scene but decided it was best to wait for the next installment and make it a “almost kiss” moment instead. Personally,I think it was the right decision because they kissing and then Kylo saying “Rey,I saw who your parents are” would be very awkward. 

my only star wars commentary is that i want adam driver to know he’s doing a good job. you’re a very good tall goth space man adam you’re doing great

Eh, I do think dark Rey is a vision, too, but those people telling you to shut up about it, are just rude.

Thank you for defending my honor, Anon. Usually I just delete hostile asks, and I honestly probably should have done the same with those, but I felt the need to draw a line I guess.

I’ve been really put off by the infighting I’ve noticed creep into the fandom and it’s frankly ridiculous. If you don’t like a blog or a post, don’t interact. PERIOD. Debating a point is fine if you’re being civil about it, but don’t go onto other people’s blogs and harass them. It’s seriously just anti behavior within the fandom itself (as if Reylo’s needed that).

I’m telling ya, we’re being trolled and trolled hard by a fandom troll. But everyone is inclined to their own beliefs.

What a dick!

Are you really reducing women’s (and men’s as there are men who are Reylos and are upset by Ben’s death) investment in a character down to their own attraction to their appearance? Do you really think that we would have the same reaction if Ben Solo was a cardboard cutout of a character?