Kylo Ren Endures Years of Being Manipulated, Mentally/physically Abused, Tormented, And Used By Snoke

Kylo Ren endures years of being manipulated, mentally/physically abused, tormented, and used by Snoke - never standing up for himself. By accepting this treatment, it’s obvious how little he values his own life. He believes this is his fate.

Rey endures 10 minutes of being teased and tortured by Snoke, which Kylo has probably experienced since day one of the dark side and kills him without hesitation. He knew what he had to do. 

Had he killed Snoke himself years ago, it would show that Kylo believed he had something worth living for - but he didn’t.

What does this tell us?

Not only does Kylo Ren value Rey’s life more than his own, but he feels that she gives his life meaning.

Here’s why.

Killing Snoke not only saves Rey but also saves himself. Rey made him feel like he was worth saving.

“You’re not alone.”

“Neither are you.”

He proceeds to ask her to join him, a desperate plea to rule the galaxy with the girl who began the transformation of Kylo Ren into Ben Solo. Let’s break down the dialogue:

“It’s time to let old things die.”

It’s time for Ben to let go of Kylo, it’s time for Rey to let go of the past. 

“Snoke, Skywalker,”

The black and white rules their mentors have taught them,

“the Sith, the Jedi,”

He realizes he can’t fully devote himself to being a Jedi because although he feels the call to the light, the anger he feels from striking down his father will always be with him. Luke says it himself. (”…anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.” - Yoda)

“the Rebels,”

With the Sith and the Jedi gone, the Rebels will have nothing to rebel against. 

“Let it all die. Rey, I want you to join me.”

Let’s both forget the past and how it has defined us up to this point, and together start a new path with clean slates.

“We can rule together and bring a new order to the galaxy.”

He never states how they will rule. To rule something can also mean to govern something, which could create a regulation and peace in the galaxy. Just because he uses the word rule does not mean his intentions were total domination.

(Rey:) “Don’t do this Ben. Please, don’t go this way.”

Like how I described above, she hears him and goes straight to the dark (just like she did with Luke’s first lesson on the force).

(Kylo:) “No, no, you’re still holding on. Let go! Do you want to know the truth about your parents, or have you always known? You’ve just hidden it away…”

This can be applied to both sides - Kylo has always known the truth about his parents and how they come from the light (”You may try, but you cannot deny the truth that is your family.” - Tekka, The Force Awakens). Rey has always known the truth about her parents and how they were no one. Both characters hid the truth away. So when he says this to her, it’s just another thing that relates them, almost as if he’s saying it to himself as well. 

We all know what happens after that. “You’re nothing, but not to me” brings us back to the point of this post. Rey isn’t nothing to him because she brings meaning and value to his existence. 

Rey may come from nothing, but to Kylo? She is everything.

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6 years ago

THROUGH A RAPIST’S EYES” (PLS TAKE TIME TO READ THIS. It may save a life, It may save your life.)

An Article from Neena Susan Thomas

“Through a rapist’s eyes. A group of rapists and date rapists in prison were interview…ed on what they look for in a potential victim and here are some interesting facts:

1] The first thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle. They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun! , braid, or other hairstyle that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair. Women with short hair are not common targets.

2] The second thing men look for is clothing. They will look for women who’s clothing is easy to remove quickly. Many of them carry scissors around to cut clothing.

3] They also look for women using their cell phone, searching through their purse or doing other activities while walking because they are off guard and can be easily overpowered.

4] The number one place women are abducted from / attacked at is grocery store parking lots.

5] Number two is office parking lots/garages.

6] Number three is public restrooms.

7] The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman and quickly move her to a second location where they don’t have to worry about getting caught.

8] If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged because it only takes a minute or two for them to realize that going after you isn’t worth it because it will be time-consuming.

9] These men said they would not pick on women who have umbrellas,or other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands.

10] Keys are not a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to use them as a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you’re not worth it.

POINTS THAT WE SHOULD REMEMBER:

1] If someone is following behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in an elevator or stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a question, like what time is it, or make general small talk: can’t believe it is so cold out here, we’re in for a bad winter. Now that you’ve seen their faces and could identify them in a line- up, you lose appeal as a target.

2] If someone is coming toward you, hold out your hands in front of you and yell Stop or Stay back! Most of the rapists this man talked to said they’d leave a woman alone if she yelled or showed that she would not be afraid to fight back. Again, they are looking for an EASY target.

3] If you carry pepper spray (this instructor was a huge advocate of it and carries it with him wherever he goes,) yelling I HAVE PEPPER SPRAY and holding it out will be a deterrent.

4] If someone grabs you, you can’t beat them with strength but you can do it by outsmarting them. If you are grabbed around the waist from behind, pinch the attacker either under the arm between the elbow and armpit or in the upper inner thigh – HARD. One woman in a class this guy taught told him she used the underarm pinch on a guy who was trying to date rape her and was so upset she broke through the skin and tore out muscle strands the guy needed stitches. Try pinching yourself in those places as hard as you can stand it; it really hurts.

5] After the initial hit, always go for the groin. I know from a particularly unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy’s parts it is extremely painful. You might think that you’ll anger the guy and make him want to hurt you more, but the thing these rapists told our instructor is that they want a woman who will not cause him a lot of trouble. Start causing trouble, and he’s out of there.

6] When the guy puts his hands up to you, grab his first two fingers and bend them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on them as possible. The instructor did it to me without using much pressure, and I ended up on my knees and both knuckles cracked audibly.

7] Of course the things we always hear still apply. Always be aware of your surroundings, take someone with you if you can and if you see any odd behavior, don’t dismiss it, go with your instincts. You may feel little silly at the time, but you’d feel much worse if the guy really was trouble.

FINALLY, PLEASE REMEMBER THESE AS WELL ….

1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do it.

2. Learned this from a tourist guide to New Orleans : if a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you…. chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car: Kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won’t see you but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping,eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc. DON’T DO THIS! The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side,put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU CLOSE the DOORS , LEAVE.

5. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage:

a. Be aware: look around your car as someone may be hiding at the passenger side , peek into your car, inside the passenger side floor, and in the back seat. ( DO THIS TOO BEFORE RIDING A TAXI CAB) .

b. If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.

c. Look at the car parked on the driver’s side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)

6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot).

7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!

8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP IT! It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked “for help” into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

Send this to any woman you know that may need to be reminded that the world we live in has a lot of crazies in it and it’s better safe than sorry.

If u have compassion reblog this post. ‘Helping hands are better than Praying Lips’ – give us your helping hand.

REBLOG THIS AND LET EVERY GIRL KNOW AT LEAST PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHATS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD. So please reblog this….Your one reblog can Help to spread this information.

THIS COULD ACTUALLY SAVE A LIFE.”

6 years ago
The Very Air Between Them Bent And Wavered As Snoke Harnessed The Force And Made It His Weapon. Rey Thrashed
The Very Air Between Them Bent And Wavered As Snoke Harnessed The Force And Made It His Weapon. Rey Thrashed

The very air between them bent and wavered as Snoke harnessed the Force and made it his weapon. Rey thrashed in pain, screaming and seeking an escape that didn’t exist. Kylo could feel Rey’s pain and panic, a bright roar in the Force that overwhelmed all else—even the dark presence of Snoke.

5 years ago
Change Into These.
Change Into These.
Change Into These.
Change Into These.

Change into these.

5 years ago

Rian Johnson,

Years ago you served our fandom in The Last Jedi. Now we beg you to help us in our struggle against tragic ending of The Rise of Skywalker. I regret that I am unable to present our request to you in person, but my ship has fallen under attack, and I’m afraid Kathy’s mission to bring you back on board has failed. 

We have placed information vital to the survival of Ben Solo into your hands. You must see this boy safely delivered back to his soul mate. This is our most desperate hour. 

Help us, Rian Johnson. You’re our only hope.

6 years ago
Can You See My Surroundings? I Can’t See Yours, Just You.
Can You See My Surroundings? I Can’t See Yours, Just You.

Can you see my surroundings? I can’t see yours, just you.

5 years ago

but can you actually imagine ben & rey meeting up for the first time after who knows how long in TROS and they’re both so on EDGE — rey‘s been blocking the bond and struggling to connect with the Force and ben’s been out looking for her and trying to reach out only to hit a wall every single time — so they’re both angry and frustrated and out of balance and now that they’re finally face to face the bond snaps open and everything comes pouring out and they’re both like, “FIGHT ME” except it quickly turns into “KISS ME” because let’s be real, all this aggression is simply a very serious case of pent up UST

tldr; ANGRY RAIN KISS RIGHTS

5 years ago
Out Of Context, This Looks…..uh….😳
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Out of context, this looks…..uh….😳

5 years ago
Hey Everyone, I Just Wanted To Share This In Case You Were As Touched By Adam Driver's Performance As

Hey everyone, I just wanted to share this in case you were as touched by Adam Driver's performance as I was. Someone from r/starwarsleaks on Reddit started a fundraiser for Adam Driver's non-profit Arts in the Armed Forces. It's meant to honor Ben Solo's legacy and Adam Driver's incredible portrayal of Kylo/Ben.

Here's the fundraiser mission statement :

"The latest Star Wars trilogy has been divisive among the fandom. Regardless of that, it would not be an exaggeration to say most fans agree Adam Driver's portrayal of Kylo Ren/Ben Solo has been one of the greatest things to ever happen in the last three movies of the saga. As a way of showing gratitude and appreciation for his hard work, we at /r/starwarsleaks have decided to set up this fundraiser. We know how passionate Adam is about AITAF and hope this feels like a "thank you" hug to him. "

I will never be able to express just how much Kylo/Ben meant to me. I've never been so invested in a fictional character and my brain is currently incapable of recognizing that he wasn't real... I'm going through true grief as I know so many of us are. Ben Solo deserved so much more. I hope Adam sees this fundraiser and understands what an impact he has had on so many people. I just thought this was a beautiful idea and it made me feel really good to donate. I'll never forget Ben, he will always live in our hearts 💜

5 years ago

(SPOILER) I DID SOMETHING BAD I AM SO SORRY (x)

6 years ago

If you are a Reylo and you are afraid of what may happen in EPIX, NEVER EVER forget this:

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“Then they should have no problem retrieving the droid. Unharmed.

I want that map. For your sake, I suggest you get it”.  

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“Forget the droid. We have what we need”.

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Tchaikovsky’s Romeo and Juliet Fantasy  sounds

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*I am a creature in a mask, fear me*

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*I’ am not a creature in a mask*

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“don’t be afraid i feel it too”

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The map, where is it.     WHERE   IS   IT    

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*Not extracting the map*

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*Not extracting the map*

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*Not extracting the map*

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*Not extracting the map*

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*Not extracting the map*

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*Not extracting the map*

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*Still not extracting the map*

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*nope…*

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*Definitely not extracting the map* 

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Not only the prisoner escaped, a stormtrooper helped him to escape, a Tie Fighter  was stolen and the destruction of the base is quite important.

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Reaction -Calm and clear :“The one from the village. FN-2187″.

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The girl (who is collaborating with the resistance for the first time in her life , is not even a soldier,and is still in the base  ) escaped. Reaction:

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“She’s just beginning to test her powers. The longer it takes to find her, the more dangerous she becomes”. “Put every hangar on lock-down. She’s going to try to steal a ship”

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“ The longer it takes the more dangerous she becomes”

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The longer it takes…

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“  the more dangerous she becomes”

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dangerous

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“The longer it takes”…

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“The longer it takes”…

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“The longer it takes”…

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  she’s completely cornered…   Just stop her right?

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I guess when he sees her again he will be furious…

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right?

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*Runs towards her completely unarmed*

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Furious?Mad?: Not -even -a -little

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Let’s not forget Rey last name:“I’m not giving you anything”

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And Rey last name: “I ship Myself to him”

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And Rey last name: “I don’t know what personal space is”

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“No. The Supreme leader is wise”.

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You know what? You don’t need your grandfather’s lightsaber right now.You have your own red  lightsaber in your waist…

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Just grab it and fight..

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Except that you don’t want to fight, right?

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You just want her to stay with you

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Okay this time, he’s really furious…

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You should inform your army that she’s running away…

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Boy…

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You should inform your army that she’s running away…

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she’s running away… inform your army

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No?Okey… 

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Do you still have doubts about what will happen in IX?

In my boys I trust, always …

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