But not resolving a romance with a Big Damn Kiss isn’t a non-ending, not necessarily. Ben and Rey’s relationship could have a resolution that isn’t explicitly romantic, and it would still be a resolution. It’s possible to redeem Kylo, bring closure to his relationship to his family, give Rey fulfillment of her heroic arc, give her a happy ending where she’s gotten rid of her bad blood with Kylo, has her friends and has completed her coming-of-age, but not have a kiss or w/e be part of it.
Not when their relationship is the main thrust of the conflict, not when their arcs are married. The romantic tension is already there, their relationship cannot be resolved without addressing it. This is the ‘business partners’ take on TLJ and it is, imo, nonsense.
What is a happy ending for Rey? Belonging, family, open-eyed unconditional love. Can’t it be with friends and the Resistance? No, she was given that instantly without effort and it gave her no clarity or fulfilment. What pushed her to growth and acceptance? Ben. What does she want? Ben.
It isn’t a ship thing, okay, this is a plot thing. A really big, huge plot thing. It’s not on a ‘will Our Hero and the Tough Spunky Gal kiss at the end or nah?’ level. The relationship between Rey and Kylo Ren is formative to the fabric of the story regardless of what kind of relationship it is and the filmmakers had to decide what it was going to be before moving forward. On the brainstorming whiteboard you’d have: ‘what is the story about (hope, compassion)’, ‘who is the protagonist, why her’, ‘what does she want’, and ‘how does she relate to the Skywalker saga’, ‘what are the stakes’? The answers are all closely related. If the answer to ‘what does our protagonist have at stake with the villain/legacy/thematic lynchpin?’ wasn’t ‘she falls in love with him’, it would have to be something equally melodramatic.
As for Ben, his purpose as a character is to ‘finish what [Anakin] started’. He is the Skywalker so he is there to raise questions about identity and destiny, but as the Skywalker he is also the personification of the moral conflict at issue in the story and has a Fisherking relationship to the entire galaxy. To break the cycle of generational tragedy and to vindicate the faith and hope of all the heroic characters that healing is possible and the galaxy can be renewed, Ben has to be in a position to have children and be equipped to raise them. The implication of children to carry on and renew is necessary for a happy ending.
@benperorsolo has a great post on this and @fluffycakesistainted has some good ones on the Skywalkers. My tag ‘the legacy’ has an extensive, if disorganised, catalogue of how I think this stuff works and why I think that.
But the place of the romance is pivotal. This is the salvific, unconditional love of this trilogy. This is why our protagonist is not a Skywalker, because it’s not platonic. Rey Nobody only makes sense because platonic love has failed and an outsider was needed to get the galactic royal family back on track. Anyone can be a hero in SW, but the divine mandate to balance the Force is a burden still attached to Anakin Skywalker and will be accomplished by healing his legacy. If the generational trauma is healed, the mythic purpose of the Skywalkers is fulfilled and we can move on to other stories.
You have that look in your eyes, from the forest. When you called me a monster.
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You have compassion for her.
I wrote twitter meta about the one good thing about this film (Adam Driver’s acting, the PURE character work he did with zero dialogue) because I finally figured out what he was talking about when he said he was using “mask work” with Kylo Ren. He wasn’t playing through a mask only when he wore the helmet, he was acting as if his very FACE was a stoic blank mask he was looking through. That’s why Kylo Ren as a character has such a specific feeling to him, and why the audience instantly responded to Ben Solo, who could show his emotions.
This character was always 100% a young boy hiding behind a mask that hid and disallowed every emotion except for his anger, the only emotion that men are allowed to feel. This character is an exploration of how toxic masculinity harms men. And what miracles can happen for men internally when they embrace emotionality and forgive themselves and use their energy to do good. (I’m crying about him again.)
This man makes me really uncomfortable with his weird obsession with Daisy Ridley and her character….this picture is quite much telling.
• In a recent interview JJ admitted he cannot separate Daisy Ridley from Rey, like can’t make any difference between the two of them.
• He took away Ben Solo’s legacy arc and gave it to Rey. He separated these characters who were set up as destinied lovers, and destroyed their romance plot
• He’s obsessed with the OT nostalgia shit. He destroyed and completely rewrote Rey’s characterization to make her OT Luke 2.0 self insert for the degenerate fanbros, to fulfill these men’s fantasy of Rey..
I don’t know, what to say…but there’s something wrong with this guy for sure
One thing I am both grateful for and…. really upset over is that for like 10 minutes, we get Ben Solo as free as he’s ever been. And just from the like, 3 clips I’ve seen, the difference in his physicality, his expressions and his energy is so completely opposite from Kylo’s… I just want to applaud Adam for giving us that. Kylo’s every movement looked so… restrained and stiff in comparison? Like he was holding in everything that he is, putting it all away. And he looked so pained most of the time. Tried to stay as stoic as he possibly could. Seething. But Ben? Fuckin’ wild XD. The determination, the confidence, the sass, the absolute badassery… Always grateful that we got to see that. But upset that that’s all we got… Just when we started seeing who he really is, they ripped him away. But what we did get was fucking beautiful. As this tweet so elegantly put it:
Everybody say “Thank You Adam Driver”, Who brought his A-game even in this mess.
someone check on george lucas to see if he’s okay
“but how could Palpatine be in Episode IX if he died???”
I don’t think Disney actually gets why everyone is so upset about Ben Solo.
He was the first non-toxically masculine and emotionally vulnerable male character in a big movie franchise. He was a byronic hero and was a character that was written incorporating the female and queer audience. Also incorporated the men who were relentlessly ridiculed for having any amount of emotional intelligence and vulnerability growing up. He cried. He held the hand of his lover and told her that she wasn’t alone. He begged her for companionship. He was human and loving. He wasn’t a caricature “villain,” just a broken boy who was hiding behind a mask to protect himself.
And then you kept the pew pew flyboy alive to satisfy the dudebros and killed off the actually complex and well-rounded male character.
That is sickening.