First time watching RTTE and this is something I noticed.
I think one of my favorite things about Hiccup is that he’s such a good leader. And while he has the trademark charm, charisma, and intelligence that every leader needs. He has the essential thing known as respect. Yes the gang respects him as does Berk but what stands out is the respect he gives the others.
His best ideas come from the twins chaos, his strength comes from Astrid, his knowledge comes from Fishlegs, and weirdly, his lack of ego comes from Snotlout. He respects who they are all as people and listens to them and cares for them. Making them all feel important. And that’s why he works so well as a leader. He’s kind and compassionate but he’s also open minded and willing to change and admit defeat. That’s why he was the one to change Berk for the better and be able to end two wars.
That’s why he is SUCH a good leader.
Hiccup I love you, you’re so well written.
oogh. augh
“He thinks he has to lead alone… because his father had to”
That scene left me somewhat sour when I first saw it, and it still does. Valka is trying to give Astrid advice as she was the woman married to the Chief. As Chieftess one would assume Valka had responsibilities as well, and her first duty was to her husband.
But like, I don’t think Valka had the right to be coaching Astrid? First of all, the reason Stoick was left alone was because of YOU, Valka. Hiccup has this impression of his father because Valka was never there. Hiccup figures that if his father, who would always be mourning the death of his wife, could do it, so could he. And honestly, I think Hiccup doesn’t like to mess up, not necessarily that he thinks he has to lead alone. He can be in his head sometimes, but we’ve seen him incorporate other’s ideas (in RTTE which was totally not taken into account in THW) and I don’t think Hiccup has ever admitted that he thinks he has to lead alone anyway. So I’m not sure why Valka thinks she’s right. Unless it was said offscreen, but what would that matter if the audience didn’t see it.
The movie lacked any real scenes between Valka and Hiccup imo.
And then Valka suggests Astrid console him, as though Valka knows Hiccup all that well. I know she means well, and had known Hiccup for a year, but I don’t think she had the right to play parent when he’s a grown adult who’s leading the village.
I get Valka is the voice of reason like Stoick was to Hiccup and Astrid (we see that mainly in RTTE between him and Astrid), but personally, she didn’t earn the right to give advice regarding the son she left behind for twenty years.
You wanna play wise parent now? Too late.
Again, I know she means well and is able to recognize her husband’s challenges in her son, but I just think the conversation was unnecessary. Astrid already KNOWS what to do with Hiccup. Astrid’s really the only person that can get Hiccup to spill and he’s always honest with her. Astrid knows how to handle him, and she knows how to communicate. Heck, Astrid knows Hiccup better than Valka does.
I’m sure the writers must’ve realized too late that there weren’t any scenes between Valka and Astrid (which sucks because I feel like Astrid would hold some resentment towards her on Hiccup’s behalf, and that would’ve been an interesting conversation) and they needed to come up with a scene. I don’t see Valka as wise as Stoick was. She’s cool yeah, and this post wasn’t made to bash her, but her character overall was just not handled right from the start.
Tuffnut: Okay, here's where things get a bit weird.
Hiccup: Things have been bit weird for a while.
Tuffnut: Here's where things continue in that general direction.
httyd 2: "you have the heart of a chief and the soul of a dragon, only you can bring our worlds together."
httyd 3: whelp, not true, too many humans who want dragons dead and so they're all gonna go back in a hole in the ground now sorry!
I’m on S5 Ep1, and right after they established that they’ve won and have to go back to Berk, Johann shows up.
I know it’s not confirmed but HES SO A VILLAIN. I made an a post about this but I KEEP GAINING EVIDENCE.
Do you think the reason Hiccup is so good at listening and understanding others is because he never got that growing up.
Like Stoick and Valka put their expectations and views on him and never really listened to who he was both as a kid and an adult.
Maybe that’s why he has such an easy acceptance of the twins chaos, of Snotlout need to be important, Fishlegs anxiety, and Astrid’s anger issues and he works through it with them.
Because no one did that for him.
I love dadcup and Zephyr they are my pookies, my sweetie pies.
Me when I wanna be a hairy cis looking non binary person
When I say nonbinary people can look like anything I am aggressively including nonbinary people who have beards, body hair, and who are assumed to be cis guys, firstly because that’s also me and secondly because we’re always overlooked or subjected to cringe culture. Nonbinary doesn’t just mean skinny, pale and absent of gender signifiers.
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Massive fan of a lot of rtte just being Hiccup giving people unimpressed looks
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