OP you might be onto something.
However, i'm reading the pocket as a flap, which would naturally droop downwards, but is held up by multiple snaps (for ease of access). If bombs are just held up by that flap, it would put a lot of weight on both armpit stitch and snaps, so both would tear near-immediately. Instead, i'm thinking of rubber bands keeping the loosely-pinned (you made a great point there) grenades inside while enabling their weight to be tied to his arms, using however many connection points necessary.
I started typing with the idea of a white zipper instead of a flap to hide possible bulging, and to hide opening by making it look like a stitch, but now i'm not so sure… With snaps if needed you could probably just slide anything sticking out between them to pull it apart… Does that mean Kaiji would have multiple coats, depending how much stealth is needed?
also, all of this weight basically demands a lot of core strength not to fuck up his spine long-term, and as for 'good at dodgeball'… We're both thinking of Rock Lee from Naruto, aren't we.
just realised i never posted my kajii coat design here. anyways here it is!
i tried to make it make sense, but honestly i think a more realistic explanation is that he just has a pocket dimension in his coat /j
not what you hoped for OP but it made me realise having a PoV switch right now would be 200% psych and could happen. As in: 'in the narrow room' subpart ends, as we hop to elsewhere and do plot there (Lucy team? Kenji & Tecchou? Mori movement? Atsushi getting to Fukuchi & co, even tho i keep making that call and it keeps proving wrong?) and another subpart, then in 3rd subpart resolve Meursault decisively. Thanks, i hate it.
re: topic (but still not quite): it's been grinding my gears that noone is calling this, but: regardless of DoA resolution, the optics/situation for ability users is terrible. Globally. For the average person this is a broken masquerade scenario - vampires EVERYWHERE in a way that cannot be covered up or handwaved away. If they get to know the details, it would be caused by an ability user (1) being wielded by another ability user (2) using an anomalous object created by another ability user (3!!!). Given that previously ability users weren't public knowledge, populace's 1st contact would be of "they are an existential threat". This makes them convinient scapegoats for both the actual chaos and other assorted problems, real or imagined. At this point 'removing nations'(yes i know it's a coverup, but let's be real: if it worked you could bootstrap any objective with it.) would be merely an assurance that an aggregate database of ability users would be created - which with sufficently bad PR is a very scary proposition, indeed.
as a sidenote, i've once thought myself into an interesting spot: let's take the "What is the opposite of crime?" bit from No Longer Human seriously for a moment; a 'crime' is whatever either law or society deems undesirable action. Because society is made out of smaller societies, and each will have norms that differ slightly (or even conflict with the law/norms of other societies), any given action could be declared a 'crime' by any of the above. Therefore, crime = action. Therefore, the opposite to crime would be inaction. Every living being acts (commits actions?) by the virtue of being alive (breathing, eating, sleeping). Therefore, only inanimate objects do not commit crimes. Now that we have logic'd ourselves to "The sin crime is breathing", the question remains: Do corpses count on the grounds of being alive at some point? Within these parameters, it's actually another question: Are crimes forgivable? Since multiple things can all be called 'crime', despite different severity, the answer would be a binary yes/no.
At which point, the thread splits into two:
1) From a character backstory perspective: assuming he learnt of his ability by killing family memeber(s) accidentally, who exactly could give him forgiveness for it? assuming he does not regret a kill (both in the sense of "can't logic your way out of lack of fucks to give, chief" and "doesn't go into hysterics as seen in other people"), dogma would not give him forgiveness either. Therefore, the answer is: no.
2) From what i vaguely remember of C&P, the entire thing is a setup to do a redemption arc. For a redemption to happen (as opposed to what TvT poetically calls Heel-Face Door Slam), there has to be an underlying assumption - on both the repenter's and the judge's ends - that a crime can be forgiven, with enough work. For Dostoyevsky - you know, the terrorist? - to line up with both C&P and Dostoyevsky - you know, the writer? - or rather, what hazy picture i have of his body of work. For a change to happen, the implicit assumption has to, as well. Therefore, the answer is: no. (as of right now, circa ch107)
…i recall randomly going "wouldn't it be really lulzy if the endgame was NGE's Instrumentality?" but between writing out the above step-by-step, and DoA's objective having to be something to shook Atsushi outside of black-and-white thinking backed by DoA being a treat to ADA… and it's infuriatingly self-defending against that quote you have provided; "define: death"
If we hinge on ability user != ability, and 'ability as an analogy for having thoughts deep/insistent enough to write them down and publish', it circles back to the above, tho without an in-universe explanation. …when is an ability not tied to a user? When it's a singularity. This is the part where once again i suddenly remember i haven't read a single LN and just absorb spoilers like a sea sponge, but: is there some mention (in Stormbringer?) that singularities do not change? In the sense of 'do not adapt to stimuli'? If yes, it would not be a complete sweep as elaborated above, but would still line up with "not acting" in a way. If we tie this to the whole 'god likes order' we breach straight into an entire memeplex of "perfect order = no change" (see also: Shin Megami Tensei's law - aka christian god and angels - factions)
Everyone is in full conspiracy mode since (a little before) the last chapter with the Fyodor ability theories and I'm loving that. That got me thinking:
What was Fyodor's objective again?
Disclaimer, I fully rely on translations, but I cross-checked with two of them so...
special thanks to @ticklinglady for finding these pages!
"... a world free of sin and skill users."
1. A world free of sin
He says he wants to spill the blood of the sinners like 3 times but doesn't really give an explanation of who, what or why.
His definition of "sin" is quite vague, but could be the usual catholic/christian stuff. The one time he identified a specific behaviour as a sin was when the Agency and Port Mafia were killing each other "even though they knew they were being set up to do so" (though he also said Ace breathing and thinking was a crime and said killing Karma was freeing him).
In the Dead Apple novelization (not written, but edited by Asagiri, who came up with the original idea for the movie and gave a whole speech on Fyodor to the writing team), Fyodor does make a speech about the post-dragon red fog surrounding the Earth, transforming it into a "dead apple" by essentially killing everyone and "washing away the original sin of man". The apple motif was a sort of poetic irony.
According to the novelization, this was his true objective at the time and he never mentions the Book, not even in the epilogue, as opposed to doing so in the movie.
This scenario is kind of a contradiction, since the fog would have erased everyone except ability users, though most would have suffered at the hands of their abilities before dying. Said abilities would have then been kept in a collection maintained by Shibusawa, an ability singularity himself, which brings us to...
2. A world free of ability users
I went through the manga and never did find an instance of Fyodor speaking ill of abilities, only ability users. That doesn't mean there is a difference to him in the first place, but it's interesting.
The Dead Apple scenario is to be taken with a grain of salt, but killing everyone doesn't seem to be a problem for him (he kills nearly everyone he interacts with anyway), and this implies that to him every single human is sinful beyond redemption and can only be saved through death. Why he is singling out ability users in that case? seems redundant.
Other instances of him talking about his objective included talking about "the will of the hand of God and Demon", doing this "for the sake of a better world", and saying the death he gives is a form of salvation by severing the influence of sins from the soul. He also talks a big game about God and his intentions (order and stuff), and Dazai likes to point and laugh at him when he does so.
As a bonus, in Dead Apple, Fyodor answered Dazai's question of why he accepted to join forces with him by saying it was "simply to see the world as it ought to be" (and because he wanted entertainment, with Dazai turning out to be that entertainment, as Fyodor was in fact using him the whole time for his own agenda).
now go and apply that knowledge to your theories
@lu-is-not-ok
i read lu-is-not-okay's sin analysis guide and it made me think about outis some more (mainly base outis)
TL;DR for the guide: Each sin's meaning is likely different from the mainstream interpretation of them (e.g. Lust does not necessarily mean being horny), and an identity's skills represent the layers of their psyche (With s1 being the surface layer and s3 being the deepest layer of the mind)
I should note that this draws from my previous theory of Outis's story so it might be needed to check that out to clear any confusion. Also, since Outis's story isn't going to be released for a very long time, this is really just conjecture.
Anyway...
Outis has a sloth s1 (Pulled Blade), a pride s2 (Backslash), and a gloom s3 (Piercing Thrust), right?
Going by the guide, Sloth S1 represents Outis's resignation to her circumstances. She's given up on hopes of ever returning home after the Smoke War, believing it to be totally impossible.
Pride S2 likely alludes to a fatal mistake Outis made out of hubris during the Smoke War, one that could possibly even be the reason why she cannot return home. Since we don't have her story yet, this is more based off of Outis's source material.
In The Iliad, the protagonist Odysseus had been captured by a giant called Polyphemus. When he demanded his name, Odysseus told him his name was "Ουτις" (Outis), which means 'nothing' in Greek. Odysseus later blinded the giant, who screamed "Outis (nobody) is killing me!" (and thus leading the other giants to ignore his pleas) and allowed them to escape.
However, before leaving, Odysseus revealed his true name to Polyphemus in an act of hubris, taunting him. As a result, Polyphemus was able to pray to his father Poseidon to curse Odysseus to “[never] reach his native land, to [never] come once more to his own house and see his friends again” and to “let him come late, in evil plight, with all his comrades dead, in someone else's ship, and find troubles in his household."
Sounds pretty familiar to Outis's predicament, right?
Afterwards, gaining a grudge against Odysseus, Poseidon began sabotaging Odysseus's journey. All of which would have been prevented had Odysseus's arrogance not gotten the best of him.
Returning to Limbus Company Outis, I feel like Pride S2 would represent her invoking catastrophe the same way as Odysseus -- in an act of arrogance, she will make a huge mistake with terrible consequences (perhaps being the reason why she cannot return home?). Could be her revealing her identity to the enemy to brag -> said enemy pulls a few strings and finds a way to prevent her from returning home, or it could be something less 1-to-1 with The Iliad. Either way, the skill would allude to her ignoring the consequences of her actions in that one moment.
Alternatively, it could refer to her participating in the Smoke War, not quite aware of the potential consequences that could result from leaving her home.
Finally, Gloom S3. This one is a bit hard to pin down with actual evidence because, again, we know very little about Outis's actual past. Additionally, nothing really suggests that Outis is "overwhelmed" with negative emotions at the time of this post. In fact, she's known for being the most rational and collected sinner, despite her obsequious attitude towards Dante. (There's probably something from The Iliad that I could connect to here, but I honestly don't know that much about the epic.)
That being said, I imagine it'd have something to do with regret. Whatever conceited mistake Outis made came back to bite her in the ass, and now she can never return home to those that wait for her. Indeed, she would definitely dwell on her unfortunate circumstances even if she is resigned to them. "If only I hadn't let my hubris get the better of me."
As for appearing rational and seeming the exact opposite of "overwhelmed with negative emotions"...
I have nothing to support this, but it's possible that Outis's implied duplicity through her sycophantic behavior towards Dante is a front. She's well aware that all of the other Sinners and Vergil think she's going to backstab them at any moment -- that's the point of it. It's a smokescreen to cover up how she actually feels, which is intense lament due to being unable to see her loved ones ever again.
That doesn't necessarily mean said treachery is "fake", since she could still backstab them (although you could argue that if she really did want to betray them, she wouldn't make it so obvious). It's just that she intentionally uses said sycophancy and hints of disloyalty, however genuine they may be, to mask her actual issues and her past.
Desire (lust) to wait (sloth) so that curses (gloom) accumulate to cause more damage (wrath)? Nonsense straight out of Persona 5, with biding one's time specifically so that revenge will be sweeter. Also lol that mechanically he's what is labeled as buddha murti but what looks like khakkhara. Imagery of Heathcliff looking like a guy but being merely a staff to bonk the deserving(?).
The corrosion line kind of reinforces the 'playing the long game' take: "The wheel of samsara turns once." As in, it turns and the target is dead - but with it, there is no long game to play anymore, so (the reason to continue) Heathcliff is not more as well.
"I have not broken your heart - you have broken it; and in breaking it, you have broken mine."
is the quote that comes to mind, tho i'm sure someone who actually read it can pull out something much better ;^) Does that mean the quote is/will be a feather Cathy?
as for resistances: the pattern of weak-to-envy continues, in that someone else would have to sit his ass down and explain that this notion makes the world worse (instead of being to the point about it). Lust resist because it's the sort of harebrained plan that's less do-gooding and more feel-good (partially about one's inaction/inability to act). Light sloth resist as most of the time this mindset is in snooze mode ;D ...and also, why are they're equal? balancing aside maybe because if proportions are off, the behavior/vibe changes? Gloom it up too hard and it's just whining without doing anything at all. Wrath it up and retaliation is immediate. Lust it up and it's less karma themed and more just pummeling the target. Sloth it up and one ignores the opportunity to take revenge, blinded by despondency?
Oh this Sin Cost for Heathcliff's Ya Śūnyatā Tad Rūpam is juicy. I don't have the brainpower for in-depth analysis right now but.
The pairs of opposites in Wrath-Sloth and Lust-Gloom. The sheer addition of Wrath and Gloom compared to Outis's. The lack of Pride compared to Outis's. It's just so.
Did someone say RANT ABOUT THE BEST MECHANIC IN YU-GI-OH!?
If one really wants to practice weaponising game mechanics - chain beat is the way to go, even if Black Garden might not be the optimal variant for it. But if you want to start small (with a chain burn), you should make a point to count Chain Links in chat/out loud anytime you do anything. This will force your opponent to keep explictly passing over their priority (right to activate stuff). Either they'll do that every single time (against chain burn it should intimidate too, as there are only two things they count up to ;D), or they'll just state for everyone to see that they'll giving you a free reign to do whatever the hell you want. Outside of chain-dependent decks, try not to use it on people who aren't trying to be cute. Once we're done with you, you should be able to out-ruleshark them. So pay attention. There will be a test later. One could argue that it's actually continuous effects that are the fastest, since they can apply in the middle of a chain (Counter Fairies are made of this and so is placing Spell Counters) For example:
P1 activates Reinforcement of the Army, thus creating Chain Link 1.
P2 (in response to Rota's activation) chains Call of the Haunted, targeting Thunder King Rai-Oh.
P1 does not chain anything.
P2 does not chain anything.
Because both players passed, chain closes and proceeds to resolve backwards (codeheads may recognise it as a LIFO stack).
First, Rai Oh is summoned.
Then, RotA 'resolves', but due to Rai Oh being on the field, the effect fizzles without doing anything. This can stop more than a single part of an effect, if the rest of it involved the word "then")
If an effect fizzles without doing anything, it's still considered to have been activated. If one attempts to make a Grand Unifying Rulebook, a trigger effect can be chained if the last thing that happened was the activation condition. And there are plenty of them so get ready to see that phrase a billion times.
Simplified example, ie. what happens in practice:
P1 tributes Treeborn Frog, summons Caius the Shadow Monarch and activates his effect, targeting Blaze Accelerator Magazine.
P2 chains BAM's effect. If P1 doesn't do anything, P2 will proceed to discard Volcanic Scattershot and draw a card
both players do the following roughly in this order:
banish BAM
mill two Scattershots
destroy Caius
subtract 1500 points from P1's LP
If they know what they are doing, this is not a problem. If they don't, it becomes a complete Clusterfuck.
Same example, once more with clarity:
Open game state: P1's MP1
it doesn't matter for the following details, but keeping track of it is makes rulesharkers knock themselves out on your SUPERIOR RULE-FU
this means that Turn player has priority
P1 tributes Treeborn Frog to tribute summon Caius the Shadow Monarch. The last thing that happened was an attempt to summon a monster (because this window of opportunity is limited pretty much exclusively to negating summons that do not start a chain, like Horn of Heaven or Koa'ki Meiru Overdose, they are usually lumped together with summon responses)
Since P2 doesn't respond, P1's Caius arrives to the field. The last thing that happened was Caius' tribute (=normal) summon. Tributing Treeborn Frog is a cost and thus promptly ignored.
Due to the fact that his effect is a trigger (responding to his own summon) and the one declaring it's activation is the turn player, it is a Chain Link 1 (CL1 for short - this notation is incredibly useful) targeting Blaze Accelerator Magazine. The last thing that happened was:
Caius was tribute=normal summoned
Caius' effect was activated, targeting Blaze Accelerator Magazine.
yes, both are consiedered "things you can respond to".
P2 activates the effect of Blaze Accelerator Magazine, thus creating CL2: BAM. The last thing that happened was:
Caius was tribute=normal summoned
BAM's effect is activated.
P1 in retalliation chains... nothing at all.
P2 passes right to chain as well, thus both players move into resolving the chain that formed.
2nd Chain Link is resolved (R2 for short): Volcanic Scattershot is discarded (at resolution, since it's not a cost), P2 draws a card.
R1: Caius banishes Blaze Accelerator Magazine.
You'd think that the turn moves back to an open state, but NOT SO FAST! In the middle of resolving that chain, Scattershot's effect trigger happened. Since you can't shove another Chain Link in the middle of an ongoing chain, trigger effects patiently wait for the current chain to finish to either politely ask if it can activate (In case it "If~, you can~" and "When~, you can~") or rudely do the thing at the first opportunity (in this example, this happens with the -500lp effect). As a result, after Caius-BAM chain resolves, a second chain is immediately created, bypassing turn players priority. Thus the example continues with a rather tame case of SEGOC, just so you'll have a taste of what's to come.
CL1: Scattershot -500LP effect activates.
CL2: Scattershot mill themselves as a cost with the intention to nuke the field.
Now that trigger effects stated their business, players can meddle some more. The last thing that happened was:
Blaze Accelerator Magazine was banished.
Volcanic Scattershot's mill'n'nuke effect was activated.
P1 doesn't chain anything.
P2 doesn't chain anything.
R2: field is nuked.
R1: 500lp worth of effect damage is dealt.
Since two other Scattershots were sent to the graveyard, yet another chain is formed.
CL1: Scattershot-A -500LP effect activates.
CL2: Scattershot-B -500LP effect activates.
P1 doesn't chain anything.
P2 doesn't chain anything.
R2: 500 points of damage are dealt.
R1: 500 points of damage are dealt.
and finally - FINALLY - the game moves to an open state (It's still P1′s MP1. If you forgot - this is why explictly asking for responses to specific things is important ;D)
...i can already tell you're internally whining "but why should caaareee?", glad you asked, buster ;> This is where a lot of hidden power/weaknesses of a lot of cards come into play.
People usually gloss over the fact that 1500 comes in three hits, so to speak. This means that Dark Room of Nightmare will deal 900 points of damage and Gorz will retalliate with whooping... -500LP.
Since Caius always activates before BAM, in a void BAM's effect will always go through.
Because BAM can destroy Caius post-mortem, it becomes sort of a mind game - especially if you throw a stray MST into the mix.
If you aim Caius at BAM, they WILL activate it (if they don't it means they do not have Volcanic Shell and that they most likely don't have Volcanic Scattershot - enjoy the free knowledge)
Say you suspect to the point of acting on it that they DO have a Scattershot. You could do the above to pave the way for something nastier. If you have a MST and they have another card, you could aim the Monarch Spite Cannon at that, instead.
If they chain BAM, you can chain MST to destroy it. That way, Scattershot stays in their hand, Caius prevails AND they do not get to draw a card. Oh, and BAM both was activated and destroyed (which means that although this turn they are completely locked out of BAM-shenanigans, they will be able to both retrieve it with volcanic Rocket and use it's 3rd effect next turn).
If they don't, you went +1 in card advantage and still can do the abovementioned later.
No trying to use Solemn Warning after your Bottomless Trap Hole spectatularly failed (or is slated to fail). This also means that summon negation stops the continuous effects of monsters-that-would-have-been (and if you gloss things over, one could even joke that they do so retroactively.)
Costs cannot be chained to. EVER. This is also the reason why Lonefire Blossom works under Skill Drain (by the time it's effect resolves, Skill Drain has already stopped applying to it.)
Volcanic player is perfectly capable of drawing into a Scattershot, which they'll have to discard.
If you want to save Caius with Forbidden Lance/etc, chain it to the second chain. If you do it do it too early, your opponent might troll you by yarding a Shell. If you do it too late you won't even have a target anymore. This also means that if you are using The Monarchs Awaken, you can both have your cake and eat it.
No matter what, doing shenanigans with Escalation of the Monarchs will end with you losing that monster to Scattershots. Whether or not you really needed that Raiza to go off is another matter.
Both players can chain Call of the Haunted to the 3rd chain - and it will ensure that the summoned monster will not fall into a BTH (since the only window of opportunity after that chain opens up only for "dealt/took damage" and "monster effect resolved")
If you are willing into "what are you doing STAHP" territory: if you can read that their only valid discard is a Scattershot - you could chain Torrential Tribute to BAM. Because they activated it, they would have to discard the little guy (as you can't activate cards if you don't have valid targets). However, they wouldn't be able to mill two others, which would be rendered mostly useless, ticking time bombs as you have to discard/mill all of them to get the nuke effect.
As a collorary, every effect that negates an activation, has to be chained directly to what it wants to stop. Negated chain links still exist for the purpose of reading the potential triggers left by the resolution of a chain. There is also a SECRET RULE-FU TECHNIQUE that never ceases to blow my mind. I've mentioned effect fizzling, i've mentioned activating fun things at fun times for fun results. Effect Veiler-Fiendish Chain interaction is what combines those two aspects. Say you have a monster with an ignition effect that tributes it as a cost. For this example, let's take Cardcar D for a joyride. But before that, a few things to keep in mind before we jump in:
Monster effects that tribute themselves for cost activate on the field.
Effect Veiler can and will negate abovementioned effect.
Fiendish Chain only negates things that activate and resolve on the field, just like Skill Drain.
The only window of opportunity to activate Effect Veiler to negate CCD is when it's summoned. Once that moment passes, it'll vroom away.
Do you see where this is going? You have CCD and a Fiendish Chain, your ornery opponent has Effect Veiler. What can happen? Go on, try to figure it out yourself.
The answer is: In response to CCD's summon a chain is formed: CL1: Effect Veiler, targeting CCD. If the turn player adds CL2: Fiendish Chain (targeting CCD), durning resolution Fiendish will negate CCD. As a result Veiler's effect will not affect CCD. After that, you can activate CCD'e effect and it will go through, because Fiendish affects only face-up monsters!
If something is done by the players 'at the same time', like with Dark World Dealings
Rule- trigger-wise, it's resolution opens up trigger conditions:
"a (normal) spell card was resolved"
"you added a card from your deck by drawing it"
"your opponent added a card from your deck by drawing it"
Physically, opponent of the person who activated it is the one to do it 1st (tho i do not have a sauce. It should be either a single-card ruling or in one of the posts of tcgplayer's resident judge).
See also: "events that do not start a chain" (=that do not form a chain link) in the rulebook. The thing that screws over sharks and what i strongly insist on doing: if you activate something in a window of opportunity for triggers as a CL1 (like activating Bottomless Trap Hole because a monster was normal summoned), you are RESPONDING TO *AN ACTION* (here, to the normal summon of a monster). If you are activating something as a CL2 or higher - you are CHAINING TO THE ACTIVATION OF *A CARD (EFFECT)*. And continuous effects APPLY. If you have aaaaaaaall this knowledge nicely sorted out in your head, the only way they could bend the rules would be to confuse you first by muddling what is really happening. Insistent, rigid terminology also point to what they don't know. Even corrected by a judge, they might operate under their old assumptions. Enjoy free knowledge=power ;>
Hey guys, I’m back with a new post!
Today’s article is pretty hard to understand; it’s usually one of those things that new and average players don’t understand or apply in the wrong way. And it’s probably one of the most important things to know to play the game. So, today I’m gonna write about...
Ever think - most of that last bit in Muersault didn't need to happen? Because if Chuuya is never a vampire and Dazai knows that, then once Chuuya's THERE, the rest is a pantomime. Chuuya had more than enough power to hail bullets into Fyodor the moment Gogol's 'game' began.
So why didn't they?
I think they had to be really afraid of Fyodor's power. All they know is that it works by touch, and it's lethal. Chuuya's power also requires him to touch things to exert control over them. They must've been afraid that the powers would cancel each other out if used directly that way, which would introduce too many unknowns to 'can we kill fyodor now'.
I think that's why they saved the finishing blow for "when we have control of the vampires". Because then, if it was an always-on kind of power like Dazai's, whatever it was would activate when the Random Vampire Mook attacked.
Of course, they couldn't KNOW they'd get control of the vampires, but really, if they didn't they were screwed anyway? So I guess they figured eh, in that event we leave Chuuya around as some kind of secret double agent and wait for the next clear shot. Or something.
YES BUT WHAT ABOUT VIRTUAL, TRACKED POSSESSIONS
tbh i did mull this over some more and it gets weirder. because if - for instance - you set your paper national bonds on fire, then you lose the right for the government to buy them back from you. comparatively, if people don’t stalk what you’re doing (an actual thing!) and you torch your rights-to-dividend this shouldn’t change the value because noone knows about it (the percieved value of the company doesn’t change). But if they do? the companies’ value would drop only when the rest of the pack would learn about it, thus lowering the current monetary value of any other stock he has.
Great scott, does his ability account for that? And if so, can you circumvent it by having your loyal (which is a quality that the great fitzgerald implictly makes measurable) underlings play stocks under your direction, without question? would that change their value (since it would be on their names), or could fitz use them ad hoc, bc he’s the one calling the shots? How do you put a price tag on them? Do their connections and skills qualify? That would open the possibility of inducing memory erasure.
And how would it work in, say, medieval times? Would the monetary value be counted from where he is, or where his goods are? What about the monetary value of ash? sure, he can’t use it again, but what if it’s made into soap? Can he torch it for it’s full value or is it lowered, accounting ability-created ash? If it lowers, then how precisely and can we ship-of-agronauts this shit? If we return to modernity then the change should be neglible, b/c value has to be agreed upon between parties thus he would profit from immaterial aspects of the product, like brand - without using them up, too!
If we go with something more material - like owning majority of the company assets (less in the sense of instruments etc, but a bit more direct i-paid-for-the-chairs sense), what happens to the company’s assets? can he turn whole buildings into ash? if he doesn’t own everything and it’s regulated with papers, what happens to other shareholders? if they can’t extract even what they put in to get the mess of the ground, does that mean he torches their stuff too?
going back to stocks, there are instruments that do not give the right to dividend. As a trade good, when torched in large qualtities they could swing the percieved value (since there are less of them) but only, again, if the world at large knows about it. I do recall a strat of following sb prolific, which is doable bc stocks are virtual. For instance, main stock market opens and closes at specific hours. Assuming he wrecks shit using stocks durning it’s downtime, and is prolific enough to be followed - do the stocks flop and if so, there are actual, imposed limits on how much a stock’s value can change within a single opening/hour/day. Does that mean the-stock-exchange-as-an-institution caps what he can do with it? Did he throw a whole stack into the air but only some of them disintegrated?
So when fitz uses his ability, does it create glitches in the system that relies on having it’s stuff written down in multiple places - can it even happen, given that the servers aren’t his to play with? if we go by power-from-the-money-he-would-have-gotten-if-he-sold-it it’s taking what isn’t his and what has… unagreed upon monetary value to fuel his punches - in other words, HOW MUCH IS THE FUTURE FINANCIAL STABILITY OF THE WORLD WORTH? The world would let him go scott-free, ala the last crisis. If it works multilaterally, it *could* create a situation where his meddling lowers the monetary value of someone ELSE - for instance, lowering the value of something could also lower it’s value for the purpose of hedging bets.
Or he’s just rapidly selling his virtual stuff (which would go against the whole “objects turn into dust”, bc the buyer has 100% usable toys) and it’s chalked up to …this?
FITZGERALD: ROBOT OR NOT? Find out in the next episode!
Or maybe he’s just a misshapen refugee somehow fused with his asset from [C]-Control universe.
@your post on twitter about fitz: HOLY SHIT THAT IS SO BROKEN. you aren't thinking big enough. get this: you sell a metric fuckton of forward/future contracts, go beat up someone nosediving the stock market value, then profit from the difference. with leverage, this could theoretically give him more that he spent, not including the advantage gained from beating sb up. (also where all these things disappear to. hm.)
…hell, depending on the fine details it should work as well with normal stocks of smaller companies. do the virtual papers disappear (how does that work with taxes, for that matter?), or do everyone gets deluded that they aren’t worth as much? b/c drop of stock value doesn’t mean the business magically produces/sells/etc less, it’s just a representation in the market’s current belief in it’s money-making capabilities. also insider trading. so much potential for insider trading.
(these asks are a reference to my short rant about bsd Fitzgerald’s ability, which apparently allows him to convert the monetary value of literally ANYTHING (including money, items, jewelry, and even people) into super strength and invincibility - the bigger amount of monetary value at hand, the stronger he becomes)
YEAH EXACTLY….like this man could literally belong to Hirohiko Araki of Jojo Bizarre Adventure’s fame because his power is just THAT effed up and broken. Like, as far as we know, Fitzgerald’s ability works like this:
a) something has monetary valueb) Fitzgerald’s ability can convert the monetary value into strengthc) objects and items get degraded into dust upon use, people do notd) it can only be used once per object/persone) Fitzgerald has to OWN the thing/person (for the latter, not in a slavery way, but in a more “I’m loyal to you and will follow you for the rest of my life” kind of way?)
Like you said, the potentials of abusing this ability are endless, especially considering stocks because like paper bills, those also can be converted into monetary worth….like, about using stocks in general, I imagine he could make it so that they disappear, that the amount of stocks actually goes down because the ones he used ceased to exist, but WHO KNOWS??? How much does this man know about abusing his ability in relation to the stock market? I mean, I could imagine he’d get in trouble re: stock fraud if they find out stocks are mysteriously disappearing under his nose but if they don’t disappear than this man can’t be stopped?? Just the potentials are endless and this man’s ability seems like the most ridiculous thing in the world but it’s also the most terrifying in the world if he knows how to use it correctly.
SOMEONE STOP F SCOTT FITZGERALD BEFORE HE ABSORBS MONEY AGAIN
good enough to boost.
i don't even think that the example is a death threat, but go off, i guess.
(also TIL extra details for context, so thanks for that)
its dope how the CEO of this website can casually drop the fact that he had at least one content moderator on payroll who was accepting bribes to take down blogs on request, without revealing who was affected by this or what actions were taken to reverse the damage, and were all just supposed to be like oh ok thanks for taking care of that :D
Right, I made this blog specifically to analyze her sins… and promptly forgot to do that!
For the meanings of each sin, I’ll be largely referring to this post from @lu-is-not-ok (its a very good post, do check it out!)
I originally meant to do her base ID and EGO in the same post, but, the EGO alone goes on for a while. (I’ll probably write up the base ID tomorrow)
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