just KNOWING that you will tap into the void is enough like no trying or hoping, you will tap into the void naturally and will just be aware about it so dw
The huge confusion lies on thinking you are in the body, when in reality the body is in you. Imagination is not somewhere in the body's brain, the body is in your imagination. Everything the body does, thinks, says, sees, it is in your imagination. Not in the body. Everything that is perceived is in you, not you in it.
There is no you in a 4D or 3D (mentioning it because I got a question asking about 3D). The 3D is in you, again, not "in you" as "in the body" in you as in awareness, understand?
I think that saying something is "within you" might be interpreted as "within the body" NO! Even the body is within you. Take some time to think of it, see you, not as the body but as the dreamer of the body, because THAT is what you are.
I saw an ask @adadisciple about derealization and thought I'd add my 2 cents here as I have experienced derealization in the past and might be able to offer a bit more insight. I didn't want to reblog that ask for personal reasons and also the response is really long. Disclaimer: I am not a therapist either, my thoughts are based on personal experience alone so take whatever feels right and leave the rest. Also I can't speak from the perspective of full realization as I am not there yet but hopefully this helps in some way.
When I first found non-dualism, I also had similar concerns as someone who had experienced derealization, I thought: was this another thing that was going to induce it?
Let's start with the definition (thank you Google) for those reading who may be unclear:
Depersonalization/derealization disorder involves a persistent or recurring feeling of being detached from one's body or mental processes, like an outside observer of one's life (depersonalization), and/or a feeling of being detached from one's surroundings (derealization).
From personal (human/ego) experience, this condition is purely of the mind and body with blocked awareness (? not sure if this is correct terminology, I am not talking about pure awareness in this case but more mindfulness*) and is often just a symptom of another mental or physical condition/illness such as depression/anxiety etc. The mind and/or body are just completely detached however, there is clouded awareness (due to the mind/body) and you just feel like you are existing and floating around. You are very much still a part of the world and identify as such even if you have lost faith in everything you feel as real. It's sort of hard to put into words but if you have experienced derealization too, then hopefully you can relate and understand what I am getting at. When I experienced it, I didn't know of any truth. I just lost faith in the world and didn't know what was real anymore. So, I was completely checked out.
*Mindfulness is paying full attention to what is going on in you and outside you, moment by moment, without judgment. (thanks Google)
Ada made a really good distinction here (I suggest reading the full ask)**:
The point of this all was to let go of concepts, let go of believing in things, investigating their validity, experimenting. Disbelieving you are Vanessa and denial are not the same thing. Denial is when you deny reality to something you're already giving reality to. Disbelieving was meant as an experiment, you never thought yourselves to be anything but this body, what will happen if you did?
**Actually, re-reading that ask made me realize maybe a reblog of an exercise I recommended is not the best since it instructs denial of what ego believes to be real instead of disbelief and experimentation (eep, Vanessa is still learning and evolving!). See my edit on this post :)
Here is another relevant and helpful ask by 4dbarbie:
I don't teach to do anything to the 3D, not even deny it. Not seeing the world as it is, is an aversion to it. - Lester Levenson Your 3D is right and perfect, what you see is what you are so even if you're seeing what 'you' don't want, the 3D is not wrong in being what it is. Fearing it, trying to manipulate it, lying to yourself about it being something different - all useless and vain attempts. See it as it is and it will fix itself. And no, being delusional is not good, it leads you not to trust your own judgment OR senses. Which is not right, why shouldn't you? What is wrong with your vision? Being delusional from your ego self is really harmful, someone could be abusing you and you would go "i'm sure that's not right he loves me so much in my 4D!!!"
So lets clarify the distinction:
Derealization = denial of everything while still identifying as the ego although not wanting to => ego experiences confusion/chaos/mental condition/disorders
Self-realization = disbelief of current reality concepts => letting go of such concepts and quieting the mind => experiencing the true Self (the creator of the mind) => permanent identification with Self, not imaginary concepts (including the ego) => Knowing Reality, and therefore realizing full peace and freedom
Now let's move onto practicing non-dualism. The basis of the practice is let go of thoughts, quiet the mind and focus on being awareness/I AM. It is all about letting go, not denial.
From a non-dualist perspective, derealization is just another mental concept/creation. When the mind is completely silent (and sustained) and pure awareness is realized and embodied, when Self is your permanent identification, when you (Self) know you are not your body not Vanessa feeling dissassociated from mind & body or just intellectually knowing it from learning concepts (important distinction!), it is not derealization, in fact it is the only reality, the only truth.
I have experienced short moments of experiencing myself as the pure witness where the mind was completely quiet and those short moments felt so peaceful, whole and true. There were no feelings of derealization in that moment because there was no active mind then. Right now, I do think my ego feels a bit derealized at times but this is because I have not fully identified with Self yet and it is also because my sense and understanding of reality is in the process of being recalibrated on this journey. When this happens, I sit in silence and go back to the one truth 'I Am' and feel myself into it and everything else melts away. The more you do this, the more you will feel the truth and peace until it becomes permanent (when you realize Self).
But no one can give you the whole truth but yourself.
Lester: Yes. However, knowing what you're telling me helps one let go of that obstacle of intellectual knowledge. I prod you in this direction, don It I? I say: “Don't believe anything. Start from scratch. Build up your knowledge on the solid foundation of proof, step by step.” Everyone must do this. Q: You can't take someone else's experience? Lester: Right, you would be working on hearsay, on what they have said, and the only useful thing is that which you experience. I relate it to driving a car. If I say I know how to drive a car after reading a book that directs you to turn the key on, start the motor, shift into drive and step on the gas, do I know how to drive a car? No, not until I experience it can I drive a car. It's the same thing on the path; we must experience everything. We must, of course, adopt the attitude that what the Great Ones say is so, that they have experienced it. However, you must check it out and prove it for yourself. And the basic Truth is that there’s only one Reality; there's only one absolute Truth, and that is that this whole world or universe is nothing but God, but better than that, is nothing but my very own Self. God could be far away; He could be miles and miles away in cosmic space, but my very own Self is right here, is something I know about, is something I can perceive, it is my very own Self! So, using Self as God is far more practical than putting Him out there, putting Him apart from us. But each one must start from the bottom and prove this whole thing for himself. As the proofs come, the more they come the more we accept until we experience the whole thing. - Lester Levenson, Session 11: Meditation with Quest - Keys to Ultimate Freedom
"And the basic Truth is that there’s only one Reality; there's only one absolute Truth" I literally didn't even read this excerpt before sharing it (searched the book for the keyword 'proof' because I was looking for another excerpt) but came to the conclusion after practicing and experiencing it for myself. And that is what you must do if you want the truth too. Experience and then decide for yourself.
This perceived and experienced knowledge is the only knowledge that does us any good. We can read everything on the subject, but it doesn’t help. Our life doesn’t change much, and it doesn’t because we don’t integrate the knowledge into our beingness through realization. Realized knowledge is nonintellectual, although the means we use are intellectual. We use our mind, we direct our mind toward the answer, but you will discover that the answer does not come from the mind. It comes from a place just behind the mind. It comes from the realm of knowingness, the realm of omniscience. By quieting the mind through stilling our thoughts, each and every one of us has access to this realm of knowingness. Then and there you realize, you make real. You know and you know that you know. - Lester Levenson, Session 6: Realization - Keys to Ultimate Freedom
If you want to understand more about the process of realizing Self, I recommend reading my 4dbarbie remix post. If you have already read it, reread it, maybe even read some of the referenced posts/asks and see if you get any new understanding. Or better yet, just sit in silence and stillness, quiet the mind and focus on 'I Am'.
I must emphasise that in non-duality, letting go of the ego is the basic foundation of practice as it is very much a journey of self-transformation (this is just another concept to help the ego understand, but you are always and have always been Self, you just do not see it as you are currently identified as the ego).
If you (the ego) are not willing to do that, then come back when you are ready. It is not up to anyone to convince you to adopt this practice and way of life.
THE VOID IS WITHIN YOU, you aren't going outside of your body to space or some magical place you are just going deep inside within you and being your truest form you already have it inside you it's not going anywhere, you can be in your void state anytime or anywhere :))
you don't have to impress your subconscious mind. It just simply accept what you are conscious about and reflect that in your 3D. so be conscious about that you have your desires, you have what you want!!
OMGGGG it just made sense. i was reading Lester Levenson's guide to ultimate freedom just now and he mentioned this
Q: The desire is, “I haven't got.” Lester: Yes! You create an artificial lack, you create a lie when you say, “I haven't got.” Desire, causing you to feel “I have not,” will cause you to have not! Let go of desire and you feel “I have.” This causes things to come to you.
desires are just illusions, they aren't real. that's why everyone says to let them go. because it's ironic to say that we don't have what we want WHEN WE ALR HAVE IT. self is perfect, self has everything. we just "can't see it" because we are too attached to the thought of "not having it". i remember Ada said something like this too. like in order "to have" we must let go of the thought that we don't have it. so every time we feel desire, JUST LET GO. ITS NOT YOU FEELING THE DESIRE. ITS EGO. ego isn't real, so is the desire.
GUYS READ THE BOOK
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Accepting the present moment does not mean accepting whatever story you've attached to the present moment. Look at your surroundings without labeling or judging them.
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one of the greatest discoveries i made in my journey for me was realizing that the 3d isn’t something separate from me. my 3d isn’t “out there”. my 3d doesn’t need to be changed.
i’m literally within myself. think of your 3d as your mind. you’re IN this 3d world. that means you’re INSIDE your own mind. you’re within yourself lol.
your mind isn’t in your body, your body is in your mind.
jesus said he is in father and father is in him(john 14:10). william blake said god is in us and we in him.
this is why there is nothing to change but self because self is the only thing there is. you’re within yourself. the world is truly your own simulation. you’re within the mind of god. you’re inside your own self.
think of a blue butterfly. you don’t even have to “manifest” it. just think of it. whenever it comes to your mind, just think of a blue butterfly. you’ll somehow end up seeing a blue butterfly in the 3d even though you didn’t “manifest” it.
why? because you’re literally within yourself. this is why it’s absurd to want to change the 3d or seek results from in the 3d.
you’re literally inside yourself………
i hope you get what i’m trying to get across here because i want you to know that you’re NOT changing the 3d, you’re changing yourself, your consciousness. your 3d exists WITHIN you.
stop trying to change the physical. it cannot be changed. there is nothing outside of you that needs to change. it's simply impossible to try to mold it to your liking — with or without effort. your reality will forever remain the same if your state remains the same. because how can you change a thing and still maintain it from within you ?
the 3D works as a mirror. the same way you cannot change if you only change yourself in the mirror, you cannot change your physical world if you don't change your mental world. you can't change anything or anyone, not even yourself if you only aim at the 3D. you can never force a change, manifest "through circumstances", urge things to happen or try to fix them.
talking about circumstances, you need to keep in mind that those are parts of the state you are currently experiencing. as you cannot change the state itself but only occupy a new one by leaving the old one, you cannot get rid of the so called "circumstances" which happen to be the very contents of that reality. they will forever exist for they are one of the infinite realities/states you can experience and are simply attached to that reality/state.
as i have mentioned before, the reason why you cannot change reality is the same as why you cannot create reality on your own. it's because creation is finished. it already exists. there is nothing left to do, nothing left to create. your desires exist the moment you desire them. that's when you become aware of their existence. and as your awareness creates reality — or in other words — as consciousness is the only reality, you can choose and select your desires and therefore your desired reality. remember, all states and thus all realities exist. anything you can think of is (quite literally) out there and obtainable for you.
but how do you "change" reality then? by choosing and selecting your desired reality, aka by shifting realities. see, you leave your reality aka your state of consciousness the way it is and decide to occupy the one you want, leading it to its materialisation.
by "changing" your state aka shifting it, you naturally "change" your reality aka shift to it. that's because consciousness creates reality. your 4D "creates" your 3D and your 3D shows you exactly that. a change in state equals a change in consciousness which then has to result in a change of reality. so, in conclusion, you can never change, but only shift.
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀love and light, ella.
can you stop intellectualising everytime something 'bad' happens?
When unpleasant things happen in life, in an effort to understand it and find peace, we (our egos) often either try to find reason and understand why something happened/is so or immediately jump to conclusions and label it, often linking it to our identity like "oh it's because I am _____" or "it's because I did/thought/felt _____ which caused this, I shouldn't have done that!" or "This always happens to me ugh!!!" yet I find this habit ends up causing more harm than good and it is this self-identification that then ends up causing further spiralling and a pattern of similar events later in the future. - 4dkellysworld
maybe, it's all just happening. all you can do is deal with the problem or move on. you can leave things as they are and move on
thinking thoughts about the problem is not helping you, is it? so what do you have to lose if you stop thinking about it?
Fear is your roadblock. You're afraid that if you drop the body — you'll stop existing. You're afraid that if you drop your problem — the problem won't get fixed and you'll regret not having tried to control the situation. When you finally surrender to the realisation that things only exist as long as you are conscious of them, the idea of problems will become alien to you. - realisophie
please watch this. you are all making yourself insane and spiraling because you make everything about yourself.
ego is a bunch of memories held together by attachment. ego is a thought.
so you are relating everything to a memory. you are having thoughts, and are identifying as the mind, so you get swept along with them. and sometimes you think you're feelings are at fault too!
why? this is torture. please stop
if you're confused on where to start, then start by detaching from the past and future. stop relating every mishap or great day to some thing that you did 2 weeks ago. there's only now.
No need to identify with what happened yesterday or may happen tomorrow. Stand upright simply as you are today. -Nisargadatta Maharaj
just try and see what would happen if you stopped taking on the burden of the WORLD.
just stop taking it all on. aren't you tired. so please rest. be silent.
"how am i supposed to do all of egos activities??"
no one said to stop physically doing anything. it's a mental detachment that we're talking about.
do what you need to do. stay in the present moment. take things one step at a time.
it is hard detaching. but you won't get anywhere if you do not have basic mindfulness to see what you are doing to yourself right now
People try so hard to get rid of their negative behaviors and thoughts, and it doesn't work, or it only works for a short time. I didn't let go of my negative thoughts; I questioned them, and then they let go of me, and so did my addictions and depression. - Byron Katie
Because failure is much more validating. Failure will pat you on the back and say, "maybe next time, hun", it will feed you anticipation and that flutter of trepidation in your chest when you think of success, it will make you feel comfortable in that bog you settled in.
The illusion of productivity keeps you in that mindset and prevents you from facing this fear. It keeps you feeling busy so you don't feel bad about being stagnant. It tells you you're walking in strides while you actually stand still, avoiding the discomfort of fully committing to success. Just like buying a dozen of fancy pens and notebooks instead of writing a book, you busy yourself with useless tasks that keep you from actually applying.
You can shift and manifest with just an intention and without any effort, but some of you are afraid of accepting even that. Just another script for my another DR, just another playlist with dozens of subliminals (do you even listen to them more than twice before creating a new one?), just another small "check" before a big manifestation, just another hour of reading through Tumblr/Pinterest/Reddit/TikTok posts and success stories, just another pile of photographed and screenshotted angel numbers. Are you not tired?
Shifting and manifesting are mundane and trivial to the point of being innate to you. If you have an apple in your hand, do you daydream about it? Do you create playlists named "🐁 🎀 𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝒶𝓃 𝒶𝓅𝓅𝓁𝑒 🎀 🐁"? Do you buy a special knife that you proudly call "my apple knife"? Do you create moodboards for this apple? No, if you want an apple and you have it, you bite it.
You already have and know everything there is to know, and nothing will happen unless you actually start applying. You may know that only intention works, but did you internalize this knowledge? A lot of you throw fancy manifesting lingo while still persisting in the state of lack. Remembering and knowing is not the same as applying. Don't let this mistake keep you on Shiftblr until 2030.