Guess who finished Heros of Olympus The Lost Hero.
Me.
(Also look at the tags you will get more from me there)
The Lost Hero au where everything is exactly the same except Piper never had romantic memories of Jason and Leo cause he thinks he’s joking about not remembering makes the joke that he and Jason are in love and definitely dating and then no one ever feels the need to clarify that he was joking and Jason spends the entirety of the book thinking Leo has memories of them dating and Jason’s having a crisis while Leo doesn’t even remember the joke.
read a fic the other day that talked about Leo’s fire “eating at him” and it makes sense . if you think about it . percy , he controls water , but not water he produces , water from around him . jason does the same with air . Leo doesn’t control fire around him , he takes it from his own body and manipulates it . no WONDER he isn’t all that great at using it in combat + has low stamina with it . he produces the flames , himself . Percy and Jason do half the work he does .
You know,in the Lightning Thief Annabeth takes Percy's hand for reassurance ( when they were in the Underworld)
In the same way,Jason takes Piper's hand in The Lost Hero for reassurance (when they were at Boreas' palace)
I just find interesting this coincidence
(Still is it a coincidence ?? ◡̈ )
So, some of you think that leo needed to be more ANGRY? And FERAL? And needed to go berserk AND needed to vent out on his crew mates for them being in a relationships and stuff? You know what I think? NO. A big fat NO. here's why? Leo had to see his mother DIE at the age of 8(which is why he had every right to kill Gaea and he did) had to run away from foster homes like a zillion times because, he had abandonment issues, had no friends, slept in sewers. And when he finally has a reliable group of friends, a FAMILY? you think he'd go and destroy that? Just because he doesn't have a "love interest"? NON of us would do that don't lie to me. We live on crumbs of love thrown at us and whoever says otherwise is a wretched liar. Yes, I agree most of the times he feels left out and after what nemeisis told him he started feeling even more insecure and started overthinking about pretty much everything. No life is perfect. BUT Just so you pipsqueaks know and I cannot stress this enough NOT EVERY FREAKING ONE HAS SAME REACTION TO TRAUMA sure, some of us go through anger issues, some of us turn apathetic and some of us? SOME OF US TURN INTO THIS LARGE BALL OF ANXIETY AND INSECURITY THAT HAS FORGOTTEN HOW VERBAL COMMUNICATION WORKS, HAS SELF ESTEEM RESEMBLING THE BOTTOM OF A FINISHED JUICE BOTTLE AND GETS OVERWHELMED BY SMALL THINGS. And for Hades's sake STOP fucking glorifying things like trauma makes you more "distant" or "thick skinned" blah blah blah.
I just wanted to say that It was Jason Grace who helped Nico sort out his feelings and encouraged him but we still don't know how Nico reacted to Jason's death. Since, it was yet another death of a loved one for him..
Do you know why Leo Valdez deserved every right to kill Gaea with his bare hands? (and I'm glad that he got the chance). BECAUSE, BITCH MURDERED ESPERANZA VALDEZ!! And made AN EIGHT YEAR OLD feel guilty for what he didn't do!
I always forget that Jason was to Frank what Percy was to Leo and Piper in the whole swap thing. Like legendary camp hero, fought a Titan, led an army became the leader but he literally never met him until MoA??? Like I wish we’d have got franks thoughts on Jason the way we got Piper’s on Percy
THIS! BECAUSE IT'S SO TRUE!!!
clearly there's some sort of internalised misogyny and trauma from bullies in you, because if you honestly think a teen girl who is mean to people* is worse than someone who literally tried to murder a twelve year old (percy), and lead to the deaths of several other teenagers (manhattan) you have another thing coming
*i should add that from what we see, Drew Tanaka is mean to people from what we see of her. We see her three days after the unofficial camp leader has been kidnapped from the one place everyone thought was safe and less than a year after she fought in at least one battle against her former friends and family, likely watched her sister die, and is probably dealing with PTSD from that.
Let's not forget she's Sadie Kane's age, which means at most we're seeing her when she's 13-14. 14, and in charge of at least 4 siblings. Also, the fact she's counselor means she's been at camp the longest. that means, that at the age of (likely) thirteen (possibly twelve) she was made counselor after being at camp the longest. that means she likely also fought in the battle of the labyrinth, which meant she participated in the minor skirmishes preceding manhattan that percy mentions, which means that this 14 year old is a war veteran by the time we see her for the first time.
Drew is frequently put down in Piper's mind, not only for being mean, but for being girly, for liking pink and perfume and caring about her appearance. that isn't feminism, that's internalized misogyny. That's piper in a 'not like other girls' phase. piper is an unreliable narrator but we aren't talking about that.
also, drew isn't wrong that piper knew nothing about silena. like, piper was thinking about betraying them the entire time she was at camp for her dad.
and silena was a traitor. i don't deny she was probably groomed but honestly what a slap in the face it must have been to be thirteen, returning to home, a room you share with six-ten other kids, and to know that some of your best friends are dead, in no small part to your sister who sold them out.
but nobody is talking about that, because Annabeth Chase and Percy Jackson, the heroes who are barely there, say Silena's a hero, and that means it's true, right?
It doesn't matter that her friends are dead, doesn't matter that mothers will never see their daughters again. That drew will never forget how her sister's blood felt on her skin. because if they say it, it must be true, right?
the fact luke castellan (mostly forgiven for being hot) (and angry, but drew tanaka is angry and none of you forgive her) is a goddamn tragedy and honestly she deserves a retcon or at the very least for people to understand that HOO is not black and white, and for you to look at characters that way is a detriment to analysis.
Here it is! So far it only has one chapter but I'll try to update this regularly
So there's this WebToon called "Batman: Wayne Family adventures" and I absolutely love it, I loved it so much that I sorta wanna write a crossover fanfic about it about Drew Tanaka becoming a Robin after the battle of Manhattan. I also wanna add some Drew x Leo in there if you know what I mean, not just because I like the ship but also because I wanna give my boy Leo a better life
Yes it will extend this fic to the events of TLH and I'll make Drew go on the mission instead of Piper
I already finished writing the first chapter but I'm posting this to ask if anyone would be interested in reading it because I need validation, so tell me if you wanna read it.
So there's this WebToon called "Batman: Wayne Family adventures" and I absolutely love it, I loved it so much that I sorta wanna write a crossover fanfic about it about Drew Tanaka becoming a Robin after the battle of Manhattan. I also wanna add some Drew x Leo in there if you know what I mean, not just because I like the ship but also because I wanna give my boy Leo a better life
Yes it will extend this fic to the events of TLH and I'll make Drew go on the mission instead of Piper
I already finished writing the first chapter but I'm posting this to ask if anyone would be interested in reading it because I need validation, so tell me if you wanna read it.
Leo Valdez is my new fictional crush
Thinking about Jason Grace, a kid who fought for approvl for a parent he never really knew yet still feared. Felt like he couldn’t do anything without his father, praying to him for power. Boy who died and his father barely cared, boy who DIED FOR THE GODS and ultimately died for nothing, STILL not getting tbe one thing he wanted for most of his life. Jason Grace is really a sixteen year old kid isn’t he? Because god knows I felt the same. God knows Jason Grace. I know. i know.
Am I the only one who liked The Lost Hero more than Son of Neptune?? Like I think I read through TLH in less than a day, but SON took me a good week.
The day I finished Heroes of Olympus The Lost Hero and the day after, snow started storming outside. I bet this was Khione’s doing.
Piper, Leo and Jason in the Lost Hero🩵🩵🩵
Do you think Jason and Percy's "friendship", which everyone portrays in the fandom, is overrated? Frank seems TO BE LITERALLY PRESENT HERE! And, I admit, is Jason not exactly the character that hooked me? That is, from the "lost" trio (Piper, Leo and Jason) No one got me hooked. I didn't give a damn about them, and now I don't care about them. But Frank and Percy's friendship is in the book son of Neptune.🛐 . I would like to ask you about this
I will be the first one to admit that out of all the glaring problems of HoO, the most overlooked one is that there's no proper exploration of interpersonal relationships between all the characters especially when it comes to Percy. But I swear, soN relationships were done so well. The trio of Hazel, Frank, and Percy is absolutely phenomenal. (Hot take: I like this trio more than I like Percy, Grover, and Annabeth's og trio. Go figure). Anyways, let's do this one by one. [This is going to be long cause let's admit it the entirety of SoN is just Percy, Frank and Hazel bonding and it's the best thing Rick has ever written]
Only Frank and Hazel are ever stated to be his best/good friends, and they openly interact that way throughout the books. It's the only consistent thing in all or HoO. The fact that Percy and Frank's Riordan wiki has them both in each other's family sections and labeled brotherly is one of only redeeming things about the wiki.
Up until House of Hades, Percy's interactions with Leo are practically nil, nor does he have many opinions on Leo other than the fact that he makes good inventions. Then post HoH, there's this ridiculous conflict shoved between them over Calypso that is so absurd I won't waste my breath talking about it. Leo didn't much appeal to me either because of some of his obnoxious behavior and the way he treated Frank just pissed me off. And then him blaming Percy for the Calypso thing was just the final straw. The only thing I like about Leo is his genius and loge for inventions.
The same goes for Percy and Piper. Percy practically has no opinion on her aside from the fact that she is an ally of his. Piper, on the contrary, has MANY opinions on Percy, most of them wrong. Especially the part where she says Percy needs to be leashed and Annabeth's the one to do it and Annabeth just fucking agrees? But never mind, let's move on. My thoughts on Piper are complicated and she is one of the characters I can say I actively disliked. But that could be a whole separate post.
Then there's Percy and Jason. They are paralleled a lot, but their differences are quite prominent as well. There's a two-way insecurity/envy there, and it is never properly resolved. Percy has decent information about Jason's past. Jason has little to no information on Percy's past, just like everyone else. Aside from that moment underwater in BoO there's little positive interaction between Jason and Percy; their one or two prior conversations are either neutral or combative due to them being pit against each other either by the narrative or their own conflicting opinions. But their relationship has the most potential; Jason I do like a lot and the things he could have been. He and Percy could have been very good friends if they had shown any such inclinations but the way Jason was left un-nuanced in terms of his buildup and depth at times and their relationship being left underdeveloped and raw really got in the way of any developments. But the fandom's reason for hyping them likely has to do with the unexplored depths of their paralles and their contrast in choices, motivations and end results of their struggle. That and they are a recently popular ship so their's your answer for the hype.
So, to sum it up, Percy considers the lost trio to be allies/friends at best or, at worst, he has no much opinion of them. But there's more of a link between Percy and Jason than there's between Percy and the other two members of the Lost Trio. Which is that Jason is Thalia's brother. Thalia is one of Percy's close friends and his cousin and Jason is HER younger brother which makes Percy slightly more inclined to think of Jason as a closer friend than the other two, not necessarily because of his own relationship with Jason but because of who he means to Thalia. Percy "fatal flaw loyalty" Jackson taking it up on himself to keep Thalia's brother safe is something extremely plausible and very in character for him despite barely knowing Jason.
Now to the main point: I love love Percy and Frank's relationship. Like they are so fucking iconic as best friends and no one even talks about it. And I have been wanting to make a post on this for ages. Thanks for giving me the extra push for it, Anon.
The way Frank and Percy meet and just immediately have each other's back; chefs kiss. To me Frank and Hazel are the two people who immediately return Percy's loyalty while Percy's first meeting with anyone else is always about them being suspicious of Percy. Percy saves both Frank and Hazel from the monsters soon after their introduction. Frank is absolutely in awe of Percy and grateful to him for saving his life. For the first time ever, Percy's good act is instantly rewarded when Frank offers to vouch for Percy in Camp Jupiter before Reyna cuts him down. Percy, despite learning of Frank's low rank and not so good reputation, is completely unbothered and fully supportive of Frank.
1]Now, if you remember, Frank takes the vials of gorgon's blood that technically are Percy's by right because Frank thinks one of them might help with his curse. He is so guilty about it from the start. He doesn't think Percy noticed that he took them, but obviously Percy did, and he later brings it up with Frank not to criticize him but to ask him to keep it safe for him. Frank is so completely moved. Because he believes no Roman given the chance to have these vials for themselves would give it up and especially with Percy's mind and memories being in the state that they are, he definitely needs them more and yet he willingly gives those up.
I just love that interaction. Cause for once, someone doesn't think the worst of Frank or look down on him, despite how powerful Percy is. In fact, Percy even actively believes Frank did it to protect Percy, showing Frank that he thinks the best of him. Frank is so extremely guilty, and he immediately makes sure that he won't use the vials for himself or for anything else until he has Percy's say-so.
2]Just before that interaction is the one where Frank confides in Percy about his mother. His first instinct is to lie, but then he looks at Percy and is unable to [its practically canon that people just divulge their secrets and innermost insecurities when Percy is looking at them and it's the absolute funniest thing everytime.] He tells Percy the truth of what happened to his mother Emily and how she died in the war. And is immediately relieved cause Percy doesn't offer any platitudes or words of consolation. He just listens and nods, and knowing Frank doesn't want to linger on the subject, he immediately changes it.
3]Frank is the one to base their whole plan on Percy. When even Percy, because of his memory loss, isn't sure he could control the cannon, Frank believes in him, and Percy immediately backs up Frank. And when Percy does succeed in exploding the cannons and Frank looks at him to lead, Percy immediately tells Frank that it was his plan and that he should be leading the attack and gives Frank all the credit. The trust these two have in each other is insane. To have a friendship like these two.
4]Later on, when Mars arrives, everyone but Percy kneels and only and only when Frank asks him to kneel does Percy kneel. The whole segment of Mars talking and Percy being snippy and Frank's entire inner monologue about not wanting Mars to kill Percy and being so fucking worried about Percy and confused as to why Mars isn't immediately furious was just so hilarious.
And the way Frank just asks Percy if Riptide can do a grenade form after he sees Mars turn his grenade into a ball point pen and Percy is just so fucking offended and asks Frank to shut up has to be one of the funniest interactions in the book. Like look at this; Frank is so hopeful and Percy is so insulted that he would have anything in common with Mars. I don't know why but I absolutely love this interaction.
5]Percy doesn't want to go on the quest, but he doesn't want to leave Frank and Hazel alone, so he tags along immediately. Not because Mars asked but for Frank. Despite receiving the message in his dreams about Annabeth asking him to stay put, he immediately prioritizes his their safety over his own reunion and memory recollection and if that isn't Percy being Percy then I don't know what is.
The way all three of the SoN trio just completely hit it off almost immediately and the way they mesh together so well for such a treat to read. The whole book is just all of them being iconic individually and then as a trio. The best book in HoO by a landslide no questions asked. Some parts of HoH come close but overall it's the best book, in terms of writing as well as character consistency.
6]The way Percy hates Spartus monsters, but when Frank is the one controlling them, he is okay with them after one assurance from Frank. Percy is also completely amazed when it beats the Laistrogonyans. My point being that even before Frank got his gift, Percy completely respected him and his judgement and was completely supportive of Frank's plans and his leadership.
There are so many subtle as well as obvious signs. Percy being proud of Frank for making centurion, worrying if Frank got hurt when he got his mural, being concerned for Frank's grandmother and consistently bolstering Frank's self-confidence. He makes sure Frank understands how much he and Hazel need Frank and appreciate his leadership. And the way Percy is so proud of being related to Frank.
"You singlehandedly took out three basilisks while I was sipping green tea and wheat germ. You held off an army of Laistrygonians so that our plane could take off in Vancouver. You saved my life by shooting down that gryphon. And you gave up the last charge on your magic spear to help some defenseless mortals. You are, hands down, the nicest child of the war god I've ever met… Maybe the only nice one."
-Percy to Frank, SoN, pg.348
Coming from Percy who hates war gods especially Ares/Mars enough for it to overpower Hera's memory curse, this is extremely high praise. The way Percy is absolutely ready to throw hands with death to protect Hazel and Frank is just so important to me.
Frank being absolutely in awe of Percy, and having full faith in Percy's power even when Percy doesn't have it and Percy mirroring this behavior back is my Roman Empire. They are both the most suicidal characters in the book. I don't think we talk about how often Frank thought of dying and Percy is almost always suicidal (since 12 years old) but the way they both make sure the other won't die on their watch...it's the best written relationship in the entirety of HoO and you won't tell me otherwise.
The way Frank and Hazel both look up to Percy, how Frank was absolutely against Percy gambling is life and the fact that he is so proud of Percy that Frank points out the way Percy beat his father Mars to Mar's face with just so much sass is like the only proof you need. My guy was ready to back Percy till the end no matter what.
7]Obviously there's a reason why only Hazel and Percy know about Frank's curse initially and the fact that Frank trusts Percy so naturally and explicitly. Percy asks him to turn into a dolphin for the sake of his plan? Frank turns into a dolphin, no hesitation. Frank looking to Percy for silent acknowledgement whenever he tries something new with his powers and the fact that we know Frank wants to make Percy proud is just so fucking gut wrenching. These two are absolutely the inseparable best friends and I will forever hate Rick for not doing them justice.
8]Frank has seen Percy at his low when he is panicking and suffocating in the aquarium when they are captured and how he immediately does what he can to comfort Percy. He doesn't judge Percy for being so shaken by the whole situation, he completely understands and is so fully on Percy's side. The whole of SoN at times Frank was the one more fixated on returning Percy's memories than Percy was. The absolute devastated state that Hazel and Frank are in after Percy falls into Tartarus and Frank focusing on what Percy would want them to do. No one is doing it like them in the whole pjo series.
9]Also the whole Percy being slightly jealous and so in awe of Frank's ability and Frank just gaping at him cause to him, his gift is nothing compared to Percy's and that whole conversation is so hilarious. Percy calling Frank beast yet again but this time to tease him about how on the nose he was and Frank being flattered and embarrassed and immediately shutting it down gives me life. It's one of my favorite interactions ever.
All in all, Frank and Percy have similar issues and the way they mirror each other's positive and encouraging behavior to dispel each other's insecurities and the innate protectiveness for each other and the fact that they are both so proud they are related. The peak of brotherhood. The best friendship in the pjoverse to me. You cannot get better than this. Not to mention they both care so much for Hazel and are so protective of her and the way Hazel looks upto Percy always and relies on Frank for support. The best trio that ever trioed (could only be beaten by Lockwood, George and Lucy from Lockwood and Co.). There's not enough acknowledgement for these guys and the fandom really is missing out on the awesomeness of Frank Zhang.
I hate Rick for butchering Frank's character development in HoH that way. Frank so absolutely deserved to be Praetor but it should have been on his own merit, not because the blessing of Mars changed him the way it did. It's shit writing and just an awful message to give in general. The way Rick is fucked up all these golden opportunities and character potentials. To me everything after HoH is mostly non-canon anyway.
This is one of my many gripes with HoO. Rick should have really not included Percy in the main plot if he wanted others to shine. Or just done the whole "Romans were involved in the Titan War, and they fought against Kronos by assaulting his stronghold at Mt. Othrys" thing but with Percy and Annabeth. Because realistically, when everyone meets up for the first time, the Lost Trio should have absolutely known all of Percy's exploits. I refuse to believe that the campers at CHB didn't absolutely rave on about Percy. And the whole who should be the leader situation shouldn't have been a question at all. I mean the Savior of Olympus and the Commander of the Demigod Army of Olympus is among you, but by all means, fight about who to pick as leader. It's not like it's self-explanatory.
Plus, most of the time, they traveled by the sea routes. And it's hard not to make it all about Percy when they are literally in his domain. Plus, the whole Tartarus situation obviously highlighted Percy as well since he was the only realistic choice for someone who could survive Tartarus and fight his way through the pit.
And then some stans have the audacity to blame people who were hyped for Percy the most over the new characters arguing that they are the main characters not Percy. Come on you can't expect all the people who grew up with Percy Jackson books and absolutely love Percy to not be more hyped about his return.
Plus it would have been manageable if Percy was in only one or two books but Percy is 4 of the 5 major books and not just as cameos but literally a main character. So it is natural that he would overshadow the newer characters in comparison no matter what. Because at that point, no one in the Seven had anything that even remotely compared to Percy's feats.
Rick realized how much he fucked up by adding Percy into the story and had to change things up last minute. That's why BoO is such a shit finale. Percy didn’t even have a pov for the entirety of Blood of Olympus but he still he was the one whose blood Gaea awoke to and he was the key player in the last fight at Camp Half Blood. If Rick had been actually consistent throughout HoO and had the balls to continue with the story as is, then Percy would have been the Storm part of "To Storm or Fire the world must fall." Obviously, Percy can summon storms, hurricanes, and so on, but more importantly, we have clear information on which God is associated with storms. Poseidon is literally called Stormbringer multiple times throughout the original series, and Percy is his son so lore wise, logically, and also keeping with plot consistency. The Storm part should have been Percy.
Now, not only does it ruin the entire buildup leading up to the finale, but it also undermines the other characters who were almsot hastily shoveled into their roles in the finale. Jason deserved more and should have ended up in Octavian's position or higher. The Pontifex and so on. Frank should have made Praetor anyway, but I hate that all of his insecurity was resolved by giving him Mar's blessing and pulling a magical transformation. He deserved his own arc and to shine through his own strength and mindset. Leo's was decently done save for the whole Calypso Leo situation. Hazel was awesome in the last two books, but we totally needed more of her. Piper’s arc, I am not really sure about her. Feel free to reblog with your own ideas.
Don't even get me started on the whole Gaea being put back to sleep thing. That's an entire conversation in itself but the point is Rick chose not to exclude Percy or limit Percy's appearances in HoO then realized his monumental mistake and fucked it up at the last second.
when you get kidnapped and get your memories wiped by the queen of the gods for six months, have to trek across california, find this new camp of demigods, go on a quest to find their legion standard, get your memories back by gambling your life, fight off an army to defend this new camp of demigods, reunite with your girlfriend, get chased across the country by the demigods you fought to defend, fight your way through the deadly mediterranean, arrive in rome, send your girlfriend off for a suicide quest, fall into tartarus with said girlfriend, fight your way to the doors of death, escape tartarus, fight giants, get slapped back to camp half-blood, and then you get sidelined for the big fight because apparently you need to "take a step back"
As it should be. And who's to say they had a choice in the first place.
Some character: "Oh, you need the pegasi for your very important quest to save Hera? Can't do. The Savior of Olympus himself is missing, so it's all hands on deck, really, so we will leave this minor task to you . And frankly, Blackjack's rallied all the Pegasi to look for "Boss," as he calls Percy so you will have no luck there."
Like, I don't think we talk about Blackjack or Ms. O Leary's situation when Percy's missing. They must be so sad, panicked, and feeling alone like any animal without its caretaker.
But I headcanon that Blackjack rallied all the Pegasi even 'Pegasus' himself to look for Percy while all the sea creatures and nymphs, naiads were also naturally looking for their Sea Prince. [Maybe on Poseidon's order but I think he was already being split between two halves of his personality when Percy went missing so the sea creatures are doing this for Percy just cause as he is very kind to them and always helps around. ]
Not to mention, Grover would obviously have all the nature spirits looking to find Percy as well.
We totally deserved a Percy-Blackjack-Ms. O Leary reunion scene and of course Percy Grover one as well.
I really love the fact that Camp Half-Blood didn't give Jason, Piper, and Leo Pegasi for their quest in The Lost Hero, despite the fact that they didn't really have an alternative for air transportation at this point in time, and only had four days to save Hera, solely because they used the pegasi to search for Percy.
Like, priorities were set, and Hera was not on the top of that list.