Messmer The Impaler - Blog Posts
i did a miserable huw x messmer mix based on things written and things being wrote... – listen on youtube
Now that I've finally chewed into the dlc, I can finally ask you about Messmer! What's your favorite Messmer lore or headcanon? What do you think about the Messmer Godwyn twin theory/headcanon? (and where do you think Messmer is on the age list if not Godwyn's twin?)
The long lore answer is in here - but probably one of my favourite headcanons is that he’s blind, or at least can’t see shit with the eye given to him by Marika, and so mostly sees the world through the eyes of his serpents.
As for this twin theory, it’s honestly the first I hear of it?? Tbh I don’t find it super compelling - especially since Melina is canonically established as his sister. Personally I imagine them as fraternal twins and Marika’s first children pre-godhood (during the age of the Crucible/Hornsent), since both of them go practically unmentioned in the rest of the game’s broader world, as if they’ve been written out of existence. I love the idea that they did not make it, for multiple reasons, to the age of the Erdtree - Melina’s disappearance in connection to being the GEQ, and Messmer constrained to stay behind in the Shadow Realm because of his curse and his duty to wage this eternal crusade.
I really think the canonical, in-game mention of Messmer knowing Radahn is messy for the timeline and more crucially a missed opportunity to play up a kind of damnatio memoriae situation for Marika’s children pre-Erdtree. I imagine Godwyn to be born to her at the height of her power as the Greater Will’s vassal, after passing into godhood, and believing he is her firstborn and heir only because Messmer and Melina have been written out of history and the Shadow Realm veiled from the world. This is also a way for me to keep continuity in my fics because I’m obstinate about that lol. Thanks for the ask!
This is just a piece of another thumbnail for a lore video about Messmer. Poor mama’s boy 🐍🔥🔥
Alrighty girlies, I won’t let us ignore him any longer.
This guy. This fucking guy. He’s a great summon, good health, AMAZING damage, and most importantly: Messmer lore.
WARNING: This joke post got super out of control. Get ready for a mini-essay below
He was second in command to his commander father, Andreas. Both served Messmer until Andreas discovered his “serpentine nature”, this lead to a rebellion that the commander led. Naturally, his son follows him to the end, that end being imprisoned deep within a catacomb. All pretty standard lore, shows that Messmer’s troupes weren’t entirely cool with the genocide they were doing. What I want to talk about is this line that is only on Huw’s description, and not his father’s.
“Messmer mourned the loss of a brother-in-arms”
If this line was on both Ashes, I would assume that Messmer mourned the lost men in the rebellion, despite their betrayal. Yet it’s only present on the captain’s description, not the man who led the rebellion in the first place. You know damn well what I’m about to do with this.
The main reason I’m jumping straight to “they were probably like a little gay” and not that Messmer was close to the leader of his main offensive force is the fact that Huw is a second in command. I would assume that a lord would have a better bond with the lead commander, there are less steps of hierarchy in between their positions. Messmer would have also known Andreas longer, (Let’s be real Huw got that position via nepotism) thus there would be higher familiarity.
What should also be mentioned is that Messmer’s feelings about others (excluding his mother) are hardly lingered on. Rellana was his sword, yet we only know her motives, not his. He was friends with Gaius due to both of them being cursed and also being mentor figures for Radahn, but there’s much more about Gaius and Radahn’s bond than between him and Messmer. This is the only (?) time that Messmer’s feelings on the matter are mentioned so bluntly. “Comrade-in-arms” in the context of Elden Ring is used much more frequently. If I remember correctly, this is what Freyja calls you if you summon her for the Dancing Lion. I’d argue that using brother is a signifier of a deeper relationship. To view someone not as an ally but as family, someone you couldn’t live without, a loved one. There’s also the fact that it’s mentioned that Huw followed his father. That reads like he was hesitant to betray Messmer, but his blood came before any affection he had for his Liege. Isn’t that the most classic of Tragedy? To choose your flesh and blood over your heart’s greatest desire? I’d hate to get poetic here, but the story writes itself.
Huw’s coffin was more beautifully decorated than that of his father. There were active guards, flowers, the room was larger. It’s quite gaudy when compared to Andreas’ open coffin in what could be described as a closet when it comes to size comparison. One was buried like a champion, beloved by a lord. The other buried with minimum respect given his status, but with the bitterness of betrayal.
Brother-in-arms.
Alrighty girlies, I won’t let us ignore him any longer.
This guy. This fucking guy. He’s a great summon, good health, AMAZING damage, and most importantly: Messmer lore.
WARNING: This joke post got super out of control. Get ready for a mini-essay below
He was second in command to his commander father, Andreas. Both served Messmer until Andreas discovered his “serpentine nature”, this lead to a rebellion that the commander led. Naturally, his son follows him to the end, that end being imprisoned deep within a catacomb. All pretty standard lore, shows that Messmer’s troupes weren’t entirely cool with the genocide they were doing. What I want to talk about is this line that is only on Huw’s description, and not his father’s.
“Messmer mourned the loss of a brother-in-arms”
If this line was on both Ashes, I would assume that Messmer mourned the lost men in the rebellion, despite their betrayal. Yet it’s only present on the captain’s description, not the man who led the rebellion in the first place. You know damn well what I’m about to do with this.
The main reason I’m jumping straight to “they were probably like a little gay” and not that Messmer was close to the leader of his main offensive force is the fact that Huw is a second in command. I would assume that a lord would have a better bond with the lead commander, there are less steps of hierarchy in between their positions. Messmer would have also known Andreas longer, (Let’s be real Huw got that position via nepotism) thus there would be higher familiarity.
What should also be mentioned is that Messmer’s feelings about others (excluding his mother) are hardly lingered on. Rellana was his sword, yet we only know her motives, not his. He was friends with Gaius due to both of them being cursed and also being mentor figures for Radahn, but there’s much more about Gaius and Radahn’s bond than between him and Messmer. This is the only (?) time that Messmer’s feelings on the matter are mentioned so bluntly. “Comrade-in-arms” in the context of Elden Ring is used much more frequently. If I remember correctly, this is what Freyja calls you if you summon her for the Dancing Lion. I’d argue that using brother is a signifier of a deeper relationship. To view someone not as an ally but as family, someone you couldn’t live without, a loved one. There’s also the fact that it’s mentioned that Huw followed his father. That reads like he was hesitant to betray Messmer, but his blood came before any affection he had for his Liege. Isn’t that the most classic of Tragedy? To choose your flesh and blood over your heart’s greatest desire? I’d hate to get poetic here, but the story writes itself.
Huw’s coffin was more beautifully decorated than that of his father. There were active guards, flowers, the room was larger. It’s quite gaudy when compared to Andreas’ open coffin in what could be described as a closet when it comes to size comparison. One was buried like a champion, beloved by a lord. The other buried with minimum respect given his status, but with the bitterness of betrayal.
Brother-in-arms.
bro i’m finally fighting messmer now in elden ring but i don’t have it in me man 😭
i love him so much and like :(( he’s my cutie patootie you really want me to be pumped about killing my cutie patootie??
okay so i’ve been playing the elden ring dlc and all i gotta say is
i would like to give him a kiss on the forehead please and thank you
a screenshot redraw of messmer i started months ago, hello elden ring fandom, i am finally posting this.
Nah, because how did my gay ass Tarnished ever become Elden Lord? 🥲
Jeez-us, pick one, pathetic sort Tarnished. You can have The Witch, The Wolf, The Moon Queen, The Snake Flame man, The Waterfowl Dancer, The Promised Consort, The Golden Boy, or the PrawnMan(TM).
"Pathetic sort ahead
So to speak
Tarnished."
Yeah mama, it's to the right of the castle, you can find it!
Woah mama I died to a spider thing
theyre feeding my candy ass to the great serpent later
Me when:
I have (IT'S STILL ON GOING BUT.) art block and it only applies to digital which sucks. But like during art tuition I was like drawing Messmer, but also not, how does THTA make sense but like. A fellow student was like "Draw them holding a gun!" Thus gun-holding messmer was born.
It's traditional. Which doesn't do well nowadays but like my creativity juices would literally disappear when I touch the ipad screen.
I need this.
Yeah the pic quality ain't the best
Early happy Mid-Autumn Festival
I know that I said that I would be on hiatus, BUT I wanna post something for Mid-Autumn Festival before I’m DEAD dead
so have a picture of Messmer eating a mooncake, a very ass drawing of a mooncake lols
Was very rushed and also probably fucked up his armour colour but like I kinda like it…. (Gasp, How dare you Mr. I-try-to-be-as-canon-as-possible-when-drawing?!?!)
I BBOUGHT ELDEN RING TODAY!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1
Worth the $109 buckeroos
They also gave me free postcards
My honest reaction to getting it.
And as a small treat, a Messmer doodle.
I think I missed a few details here and there. But can you really blame me and my low resolution phone?
Y’know, something peculiar I’ve noticed while looking through item descriptions is how absent Marika seems to be in all of her children's lives. Rennala, Radagon and Godfrey are all either outright mentioned in things revolving some of their children, or are heavily hinted at within other parts of the game
i.e Abductor virgin’s protecting Rya Lucaria academy, something Rykard likely chose to do to protect his mother.
Rykard and Radahn both once having high standing positions in the golden order, likely due to Radagon.
Despite Radahn directly looking up to Godfrey he still wore his fathers red hair with incredible pride, even though it was something Radagon hated about himself.
Rennala was the one to introduce Ranni to the dark moon and other celestial entities.
Radagon and Miquella have both gifted each other incantations that they had developed for one another.
While brief, Godfrey holds Morgott in his arms as he fades into grace, being there for him in a way he was unable to when he was younger.
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But Marika… doesn’t seem to have anything. No comment of her doing anything or developing anything with any of her children, no small interactions that made it into item description flavour text. Even when it comes to her golden child Godwyn, there’s practically nothing.
For a while now I’ve wondered why this was. Why did Marika seem to be so absent in all of her children's lives? She has 9 direct descendants and not one seems to have a notable experience with her. But then after watching the new cinematic trailer, something dawned on me.
What if it was Messmer?
What if the things Messmer did in the name of Marika and her order during the shadow land war were so monstrous and unforgivable, to the point where the land of shadow was hidden away and he himself was erased from history that she just couldn’t bring herself to attempt a connection with the rest of her children?
Afterall, Marika seems to hate fire with a passion. Anything and everything in the lands between that has any connection to it is something she tries to snuff out. The giants and their forge, the crucible and their fire breathing abilities, the dragons, even the omens have bloodflame magic if Morgott and Mohg are anything to go off of. Even the phrase “flame of ambition” seeming to be a very negative term is something that’s throwing shade at the idea of fire.
And what is it that Messmer is so well known for?
His flame. Messmer's flame. The very same flame he used to purge the land of shadows.
messmer addresses his loyal knights
Hidden in the darkness 🐍🐍
Day 8573757475 of me loving the internet and tumblr specifically. Y'all are so unapologetically horny it's perfect.
Like there's this game, and in the game there's this guy who's all crooked and looks like he's dying from severe case of phthisis, and his second phase is him straight up rotting from leprosy. He also tries to kill you. And has committed mass murder. Or there's this whole species of predatory man-eating shapeshifting monsters? You think that's scary??
Nah, tumblr goes full uwu they're so fine and collectively givES THEM A WIFE
Like oh you poor misunderstood 10 feet tall carnivorous genocidal baby, you need some love and care, here you go, mwah. Also here's a handful of horny™, all your needs will be taken care of whETHER YOU WANT IT OR NOT
THIs is the exact reason we won't ever be conquered by any kind of aliens. Whatever cosmic horror lands on this planet - you will just fuck 'em dry
Like OWO THAT'S MY WAIFU
Please, never change, you're all perfect, much love.