(MY) EPIC Headcanons
I love Jorge work so much (Suffering/Puppeteer are my favorites). I also like to thank OSP for giving a brief summary of the Odyssey.
After Odysseus kills/murders the suitors he spends a month relaxing with his son and Penelope.
Odysseus tells Telemachus about his Uncle Polites/Uncle Eurylochus.
Odysseus tells Telemachus about his adventures.
Circe becomes an aunt to Telemachus and a mother figure to Odysseus (Because I said so). Even though Circe doesn't come to Ithaca she sends letters to them.
I'd d like to think Odysseus was a heavy sleeper but became a light sleeper during his adventures.
During the song 'Underworld' Polites was singing open arms, but was holding the baby from the song 'The Infant and the Horse'.
When Ody first met Penelope he LITERALLY tucked a hair behind his ear. Penelope found it cute. Telemachus gets that trait whenever he is flustered & reminds Pene of his father.
Hermes is the Grandfather to Ody. (When researching how Hermes is related to Ody it was tricky and I gave up).
Penelope is the man in the relationship (Change my mind).
Odysseus was scared as shit to go near water because of Poseiden. Took him a few years to heal from that.
Odysseus doesn't know this, but Athena thought Odysseus as a son, a companion, someone closes to her. Even after their falling out, Athena goes out of her way to protect Odysseus. Which is shocking even to the gods. Gods aren't really attacted to mortals.
During Thunder Bringer Zeus actually consider to spare Odysseus crew if Odysseus was to sleep with him (whether he wanted to or not), but Hera intervened. Hera is very protective of men who are very faithful to their partners (Ex: Ody). Plus she knows Odysseus will always stay faithful to Penelope and she loves that about him.
Helena of Troy (after being rescued) had nightmares, even with her husband she's still scared that Paris or any of the trojans coming to get her back to Paris. Menelaus really wanted to rip Paris part by part because of the pain he caused to his wife.
During his childhood, Telemachus would always sleep next to his mother, Telemachus always feared that one of the suitors would violate his mother when he wasn't there to protect her.
Hermes gave Odysseus magic weed- Athena almost beat the shit outta him for that.
(In the Odyssey) Hermes did NOT like Calypso after what she did to Odysseus. Ares had to restrain him from going after Calypso.
Odysseus learned some flirting tips from Circe that he tried to use on Penelope (It didn't work, but he did get a kiss!), Penelope tried the same and Odysseus was a flustered mess.
Athena checks up on Ithaca once n' a while, Odysseus knows this and always left a window opened for the Goddess to watch over his family and kingdom.
While Poseiden was attacking Odysseus for blinding his son, half of it was because he was claimed by Athena, but now because Odysseus wasn't claimed by Athena anymore, Poseiden could do more harm.
Odysseus is a short king (that we almost stan ✨️), he was at the height of his father when he was in his early teens. Odysseus was recored as the shortest king of Ithaca, his son being only 2 inches higher than him.
Odysseus comforted his sister about Eury's death. Eurylochus was married to Odysseus younger sister, Ctimene, making Eurylochus Odysseus brother in law (Odysseus actually helped Eurylochus marry his sister, because he knew Eurylochus was the right and prefect husband for his sister.
(Will update this soon)
Hello Epic enjoyers. have a Penelope sketch I did at like 2 am . The Ithaca saga is gonna kill me
Other versions under the line + ramble
Love how this fandom draws Penelope as a grown woman. Forgot to give her her grey hairs on this but. Wrinkles, her hair up, her make up looking like makeup on her skin- imperfects in her skin, it's refreshing
So I have seen a lot of interpretations of Penelope's stunt with the wedding bed, but I haven't seen anyone echo my own so I thought I'd share? This is just my opinion though.
I think that the wedding bed thing was not just Penelope's way of saying Odysseus is always her husband no matter how much of a monster he thinks he is. I think she was calling his bluff.
Because throughout Epic, Ody's arc has him becoming a monster to get back home to his family. In Monster, he explicitly gives up his humanity to make it back home. And for the majority of act two, he stays true to this conviction. He is a monster, and he is ok with this, because it is what helps him to get back home.
However, when he sees Penelope again, he loses his conviction. As he faces his sweet and gentle wife, the woman he has been dreaming about for all these years and placing upon a pedestal, he falters. Because he feels he doesn't deserve her now that he has become a monster.
So even though it breaks his heart, he pushes her away. He tells her that he isn't the man she once knew and he questions whether she would ever fall in love with the version of him that he has become. In all of his lyrics in this song, he expresses how she could never fall in love with him again after everything he's done. He plays the part of a martyr, willing to give up his one true love because she should not be forced to love a monster.
Now, Odysseus is a rather selfish character. I think we can all agree on this, yes? It was selfish of him to taunt the cyclops, selfish of him to approach Aeolus alone and to keep the windbag to himself, selfish of him to refuse to listen to Eury when they first arrived at Circe's, selfish of him to sacrifice six men to Scylla, the list goes on. He isn't afraid to do what he has to to get what he wants.
And Penelope knows this.
So she rejects him, and she does it in the most hurtful way possible - telling him to literally uproot their lives, that she can't stand him to the point that she wants every reminder of him gone, even if that means basically destroying their room by removing the bed. This was 'a symbol of their love everlasting' so by asking him to get rid of it, she is saying that she really never could fall in love with him again.
And Odysseus fights back, because he is still selfish. He still wants his wife to love him. Despite pushing her away, he actually can't stand the idea of losing her after everything he went through to get back home to her. He cannot give her up.
Penelope points this out to him. You are my husband. Do not try to say that you don't deserve me, do not try to shy away from me because of what you have done. Don't play the part of a martyr now, when you have martyred others just to get back home to me.
You are selfish. You are a monster. But I love you regardless.
Because Odysseus will always be her husband. And just the fact that he feels he doesn't deserve her proves that her 'kind and gentle husband' is still in there, somewhere. She'll help him to return to a place of love and empathy one day. But it's something they'll do together, not apart.
And I think that's beautiful.
You know, I'm no expert at dating advice, and sure, maybe I've never tried to marry anyone before, but maybe, just maybe (and hear me out here), calling the woman you're trying to seduce a TRAMP isn't going to help your chances much.
My fellow Epic fans, we are sleeping on a GOLDEN opportunity here:
The fake Penelope in Suffering? From now on we should start calling her SIRENOPE
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Ive been listening since the cyclops saga and OH MY GODDDD ODYPENNNN MY BELOVEDDDD AUGHHHHH
CHECK OUT THE BESTIE
Family reunion!! Sharkdysseus finally found his way home.
We got Penelosea (Angel) 💜 as well as Telemonshark!! 🩵
I am going to draw the suitors + Mel next, and then we will start on all the gods!
Yeah that's all I'm doing
OdyPenPoli!!
I am s o b b i n g IF ANY FUTURE PARTNER OF ISNT INTO ME LIKE FUKIN- ODYSSEUS OR PENELOPE I DONT WANT IT
I CANT BELIEVE ITS ACTUALLY OVER- THIS MUSICAL MAN, GOT ME RIGHT IN THE FEELS
ODYSSEUS BEING A GOOD DAD, THE SLAUGHTER, THE LAST FUCKING HARMONIZED LINE
GODS
young odypen save me……. save me young odypen ☹️
penelope and diomedes have a talk after her and odysseus’ wedding!!! i’m so normal um
and she’s been waiting, waiting!! (happy valentine’s day 🩷)
HELLO TUMBLR im writing a book based on penelope’s life story and wanted to do a Q&A if anyone’s interested :D SO DROP UR QUESTIONS IF U FEEL INCLINED TO THANK YOUUUU
“pick me” has gotta be my favorite unreleased song from epic like look at my babies!!! itty bitty odypen when they were young eueueueueue ☹️☹️☹️
young odypen save me!!!! :((((
sketched pre-trojan war clytemnestra ! plus some suggestive young odypen as a treat ;)
“sooner or later you’re gonna be in my shoes, sooner or later you’re gonna have to choose too !”
“says who?”
PENELOPE LOVES HER BEAUTIFUL TRANSGENDER HUSBAND!!!!!
young odypen + teen telemachus doodles i did as warmups ^_^
I may or may not be planning a novel that’s a re-telling of penelope’s life so have this little doodle i did for the concept stuff
would you still love me again?