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Here are some of my 90s Oasis articles. Just a few for now because sadly I don't have an actual scanner at home so I'm sorry for the quality.
Dancing LIAM … lol (^o^)
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#slurp
Noel whistling at Liam like he’s a damn dog
I'm....I'm aghast. I have so many feelings about these two. So first of all, I had to create a oasis timeline a few days ago to keep all the gcest things straight (Gay) and I feel like It's getting out of hand with how much absolute batshit crazy stuff they have done and continue to do.
That MV is so see through its insane. Also Noel and Liam both think the other writes exclusively about them? I keep falling deeper, lord save me. OKay but Liam singing about how Noel will always be a Gallagher brother. and "You told me we could live forever". i need to breathe ouuughh. And now they're back together, but I'm sure Noel thinks he can Just Be Brothers. I mean that is obviously going to go either horribly wrong or amazingly right. Either way I'm here for it. AND,,,, MIGHT I ADD,,,, one of the first lines of One of us is about how 16 years ago we fell apart or smth. that song came out in 2020 and ACCORDING to my Oasis timeline, nothing much happened in 2004? Which could mean that the brothers had an awful year and Liam just somehow didn't do anything crazy at Noel for 12 entire months, OR THAT he knew about the Oasis getting back together thing in 2025 (16 years after 2009 when they broke up...)(Ignore my delusions I am overdosing on The Gallaghers absurdity).
And on the topic of always being blindsided by these guys, yeah I keep finding lore on just how crazy they are. I mean I just yesterday found out about the time the band tied Liam to the ceiling and the whole time he was up there he was uncharacteristically quiet, then once they took him down all he said was "I really enjoyed that". Or Noel joking-but-really-being-worried about the cycle of incest continuing with his own kids.
With all that out of the way, I found them on ao3 by scrolling the b/b incest tag lmao. I was bored and decided to try and find some fics of one of my favorite things, brothers in love, and I kept stumbling across Liam/Noel fics. After like 10 I was like "Okay what's all this oasis business about anyway". I had no clue what they looked like and I was honestly expecting the worst (boys are gross ): -said the boy) so I googled them. God was I wrong, they're gorgeous. Then I was like fuck it, let me check tumblr. I found this Gallaghercest list of incestuous lore that lead to me researching all the events on it. As soon as I began I had to start a timeline because they do too much stuff. Also as soon as I started I was so taken aback by how many people are into it, and then immediately taken aback by how many people DONT see it for how entirely obvious the brothers are. Even if they haven't actually had sex (which they almost certainly have), they do have a really unhealthy codependent relationship that truly borders on incestuous-- and that's only the things caught on camera or in interviews.
At first i was surprised by the star shaped tambourine lore, then the loch lomond kiss, then ALL THE OTHER KISSES. Those kisses are probably on the tamer side of what they do and say, which I keep finding as I keep learning about them. I feel so lucky that I found them, but also I need to focus on other things in life. I cant even yap about them to my friends!!
Goodness gracious, sorry for the long ask. Can you tell I just spent that last week ingesting oasis content (they're all I listen to anymore) <33333
never apologise for a long ask, we're absolutely living watching this unspooling trajectory of insanity for you 😂. it's beat for beat what we went through, down to the instant archival spirit of "gotta make a timeline" lmao. have you found the gallaghercest primer and the oasis/gallagher timeline yet? both indispensible jumping off points.
re the "16 years ago" line in one of us, it's possibly a reference to an incident in 2002 when noel and his then-girlfriend (now ex-wife) sara briefly split up. noel's passport disapeared just before they went on tour, which was obviously a huge issue that caused a bunch of drama. almost immediately thereafter, noel and sara messily broke up for a few months, noel went on a bit of a bender, grew a depression beard, was photographed drunkenly riding on some hot boy's shoulders, etc. in 2018 (which is probably when one of us was written) liam claimed (via tweet) that sara was the one who stole noel's passport, causing them to break up and noel to "come crying" to liam. presumably by now you've also learned that sara and liam fucking hate each other due largely to noel-related jealousies, and that liam blames her for oasis splitting up/staying split up. since there's really nothing else Known about what that 16 years ago line might be talking about, seems quite possible it's regarding the last time noel & liam were a sara-less unit, when noel was potentially making liam some promises that ultimately didn't stick.
the tied to the ceiling thing is..... let's just say it's very near and dear to our hearts 🙃🙃🙃. for reasons.
there's just like...... no end to The Lore lmfao. as soon as you think you've hit some kind of bottom or plateau, SURPRISE, MOTHERFUCKER!!
oh and also love for you that you googled them with low expectations but ended up pleasantly surprised 😂. that was. well. not our experience it must be said. but we knuckled down and reprogrammed our brains and now we're all unibrow fetishists, god bless us everyone.
[bbc radio 1 w/ steve lamacq, '97]
If you need any convincing that Noel and Liam Gallagher are incestuous freaks (affectionate), here's the basic information you need
First of all. The kisses
Loch Lomond kiss, where they just... made out on stage in front of cameras. Cool. There's a gif with every photo from every angle.
Another kiss, this time in Japan. Here's the actual video.
And here's the same video but together with nice quotes from their 2016 documentary:
Here's a 2005 award event where they kiss again and also look quite in love
And here's Liam straight up groping Noel during concerts:
General stage antics and more groping:
Just one more groping
Ok. Let's talk about the music, then
Oasis has a song that Noel wrote called "My Sister Lover". The title speaks for itself, really. It includes amazing lyrics such as "You're my lover, I'm your brother"
But there's more! Noel used the same chorus of this song (with different lyrics) for a song he released in his solo album, 20 years later. It's called "Lock All the Doors". The very first line says: "She wore a star-shaped tambourine, prettiest girl I’d ever seen". And guess... guess who famously played a star-shaped tambourine? Liam! And Noel was the one that gifted him the fucking tambourine!!
Liam wrote a song for Oasis called Guess God Thinks I'm Abel
I'll just link everything that's been said about this song, because it really is batshit insane that this song exists
(It's common in the north of England to refer to things and people as "our". When either Liam or Noel say "our kid", they're talking about each other)
Liam has the tendency of thinking every song Noel writes is about him, including the love songs
Here he says "I'm his muse", along with some other interesting quotes
Ok, now we're on to suspicious quotes!
They had sex last night, according to Liam
This one is my favorite:
Of course this one is just all the weird quotes jammed in one post, you can feel yourself going crazy as you read it
Noel assures us that Liam knows about his arse
Other people confirming that they act like a couple. And them being fucking weird about each other’s marriages.
This one has Noel saying Liam is deeply in love with him. At the bottom, Liam's tweet.
Actually Liam always tweets things that basically confirm they're relationship. Like when somebody asked him if he ever rimmed Noel. Yeah.
This radio interview is where the most lovely quotes come from. Only Noel was supposed to be interviewed but then they both showed up PISSED DRUNK. Transcription in the same post
Even More weird quotes
This one involves the word impregnate
Noel making a suspicious comment about his daughter and son, Anais and Donovan
I think to be convinced you really just need that, but I'd like to add some niceties.
Just genuinely enjoying each other’s company
This is from the Oasis; 10 Minutes Of Noise and Confusion documentary. As Noel is kissing Liam's cheek, Liam is saying "He’s a fucking cunt and I hate him and I love him and he twists my melon, man. He’s the best songwriter in the fucking world.”
Some sweet quotes, and some less sweet ones as well
From the Supersonic documentary
Hugging after playing football
Just being silly
To finish off, two wonderful video edits with endearing moments
One more version of this never hurt right?
my sister lover / if we shadows / ballroom figured / born on a different cloud / slide away / you know we can't go back / guess god thinks i'm abel / lock all the doors / it's a crime / shout it out loud
soulmates (acquiesce, oasis / the lover's dictionary, david levithan / soulmate, wikipedia)
can you keep a secret?
LIAM&NOEL during CHAMPAGNE SUPERNOVA 11.03.1997 | Lille, France
Joining the war on incest allegations on the side of incest allegations
We all give Cousin Greg shit for turning into a nasty person, but this deleted scene (that was filmed but got cut) made it clear Ewan was as much of a nightmare to grow up around as Logan. Greg was inevitably fucked as much as the siblings.
Writing insults on your grandchild’s forehead is very, very bad.
Reminiscent of the “shame mirror” that Logan used to do his kids if he ever caught them crying.
What anime is this?
Just some friends that smile occasionally
if anyone does lobotomies hmu 🤙
"That's a little version of me, Allan. I want you to have it."
"I-I don't really want this"
tom & greg + fixation on, and fear of, sexual assault
of all the characters involved in a plot centered around a sexual exploitation scandal, it's ironically not any women but tom and greg - the very characters through whom we're introduced to the exploitation - who show repeated concern for their own bodily autonomy, particularly on a sexual vein. that particular point of irony serves to exemplify their outsider statuses that remain in spite of promotions, marriages, etc, but also, these aspects of their characters being so consistent tells us a lot about their relationship to the entire culture of masculinity, not just waystar.
greg in particular is practically introduced with a fixation on sexual assault. his character in general is a notably un-sexual being up until the end of season 3, with the only allusions he makes to sex until then being a matter of himself as a victim. that fixation/fear becomes most apparent when the notion of prison comes up - and it is clearly the chief worry driving that fear for greg. in contrast, tom does have other repeatedly expressed worries about prison: non-sexual autonomy lost, a lack of comfort, a lack of Finer Things, particularly food and wine... but (implicitly non-consensual) sex makes the list and is also brought up multiple times, interestingly with less apparent fear than greg's. this may be due to tom already having a pragmatic relationship with (heterosexual) sex that allows him to plow through a series of sexual encounters that are tainted with elements of Wrongness - the idea here being that a fear of sex is just kind of normal for tom, so he's used to it. he has a very high tolerance for pain and physical discomfort. it's less losing autonomy and more acknowledging he barely has any to begin with. he's less panicked, more resigned. perhaps even less of a victim and more of a... coerced participant, because to even conceptualize himself as a victim would be too vulnerable. one more character does allude to being victimized by sexual assault, meanwhile - roman. where he contrasts with both tom and greg, though, is that rather than fearing it happening in the future, there's instead the idea of it having happened in the past. there may or may not have been any actual event or even a theme of sexual abuse in roman's childhood, but we get multiple notions: roman jokingly threatening to accuse connor of "diddling" him, the vibes that float around the dog pound story and how he "went weird," "yeah they raped me a little," his inability to pee around other men and the implication he's seen a therapist for it... and of course, this:
which is where roman's relationship with all of this contrasts the most starkly with tom and greg's: whether he's truly a victim or not (and if he wasn't, he clearly does at least cling to the notion as a potentially easy explanation for all that's wrong with him), he turns around and starts weilding the idea himself. furthermore he communicates, in that particular deleted scene, his knowingness of something between tom and greg. and he reinforces the idea that there's something wrong with it. the scenario he evokes, where greg is a Victim and tom is a Perpetrator, isn't accurate whatsoever, but it sends a message, implants an idea, sets the tone, etc - sex between men will always include those two characters. this is, undeniably, the precise reason for both tom and greg's fixations on being a sexual victim of other men. the canonical fixation in and of itself, and its uniqueness to the two of them, may as well establish this - in the gender theory of the show (and also real life), tom and greg are of a different gender class than Real Man. they are adjacent to women. to be frank with you, they are faggots. both know on some level that intimacy with men is what they want, and therefore, however consciously, have that sense of their role in the world being a vulnerable one. there are elements of both fear and fantasy, building off of each other: "this is inevitable because of what i am" and "what if i enjoy it, what does that say about who i am?" and "if i have no choice in the matter, then maybe i'm free to enjoy it." there's a loop of freedom from contending with one's own desires -> a hyperawareness of them. now, roman may join tom and greg in being Categorically Less Of A Man, but he still sits above them on the axis of class and therefore doesn't feel the same ramifications. tom and greg are not only gay but live far more directly in the Real World, with origins in the present and physical homophobia of the middle and lower classes. tom also knows the corporate homophobia from climbing his way up and gives greg the crash course. tom and greg's differences wrt their fears of SA lie in self-awareness, self-hatred, and how successfully each of them have already carved out a space for themselves in the sexual hierarchy. but ultimately what they have in common is the most significant: their inability to fit authentically into the world of the roys. their shared uniqueness, amongst the elite, in having a body - one that can and often does experience pleasure and pain. in having real desires and therefore being vulnerable. in being gay little nudie turtles underneath.