If/when Byler becomes canon, it won’t be just great representation of queer relationships, it would also be great rep for all the gays in the 80’s. I would love for them to represent how it was for queer people in the 80’s and queer relationships. Many had to hide their relationships and seeing Mike and Will go through that would be very realistic. It would also educate people that we were always there, but because of the discrimination people gave us, we could never really say it out loud.
Again, this would be great rep for not just the queer community in general, but for all those who had/have to hide a part of themselves that they can not control.
This whole post made me take a step back and think. Thank you. I think we overreacted a little when this Volume came out. I will say I still do not like Volume 2 that much because idk, but this does make me like it a little.
Will is not being used as a plot device for Mileven, it’s the other way around.
insanely steaming hot take but the Will / El / Mike arc was kinda insanely well done
We know Will is the main character in season 5, he was already disliked before by alot of the audience and was battling homewrecker crybaby allegations. Us seeing Will be self sacrificial for the sake of a fan favorite ship / character (Eleven) + willing to suffer for the sake of the ones he cares about makes the audience sympathize with him . Seeing someone suffer even though they're nice to everyone makes us want good things to happen to them.
If they had gone with the route of pushing for Byler , Mike and especially Will would be hated by everyone and that would not be good since they're literally going to be main characters in season 5. Nobody would want to see their relationship get fleshed out because they don't like them.
In the two episodes Will managed to beat homewrecker and useless allegations 🤞 and also become a more liked character that the audience *wants* good things to happen to , it hyped the audience for what's next to come for him
This season put alot and I mean alot of emphasis on Mike's facial expressions. Whenever he's talking to someone whether that be Will or Eleven they make a point to show the differences in his gaze . Even blind viewers are starting to see how Mike looks distant or faking when he's with El compared to genuine and loving with Will
Mike once again being clueless in the car and with Will in general was a good move, the audience would once again dislike Mike and Will therefore wouldn't want to see them in S5 if Byler started getting pushed when Milkvan was still going . more on this later
Mike's love confession being stale and poorly written and full of lies to the point where the general audience is picking up on how the entire thing can get disproved by Mike's own words ??
Wills "confession" being the catalyst for Mike's confession but it not working
Mike's confession being exactly what El wanted to hear, Eleven ( the fan favorite) got what she wanted , but she didn't like it , in a literal sense Mike's "love" is not enough
The general audience would only ever be okay with a Milkvan breakup if it was initiated by El , throwing everything at Mileven and it not sticking was intentional
El gets what she wants. Her love confession, but it's full of lies someone else's words, there's a large disconnect
A big emphasis was put on a sibling bond between El and Will , so much so it was brought up multiple times, this connects back to "Will beating homewrecker allegations" point
El becoming more independent, alot of Milkvans are Eleven stans and adore her, season 3 I've noticed is a favorite because she is so much happier and independent instead of crying over Mike . Her finding her power in her relationship with Max (whom once again was a big part of her finding independence in season 3)
The emphasis on family (Papa vs Hopper) her hug with Will being a bigger deal than her hug with Mike
"Not Mike, Not Hopper, You." "There's more to life than stupid boys"
The only way hardcore Milkvans would be okay with their ship falling is if it was initiated by Eleven for her to have her independence and no longer be held down by Mike which is what the end scenes are alluding to
I missed alot and this is all over the place but the structure and the way things are going (it byler is going to be canon) is actually kinda fantastic
I am firm believer that Will Byers would listen to MCR
literally any johnny intro dialogue
If “Crazy Train” by Ozzy Osbourne doesn’t play in Stranger Things Season 4 I’m gonna hurt somebody like please Suffer Sisters-
I just saw someone on TikTok say that Byler is like Draco x Harry…
Okay but I hate it when I’m watching Byler videos on YouTube and then there’s just this one comment going “It’s cute and all but Mike loves Eleven. What about Eleven?” Like they try so hard not to sound angry but I can tell they are shaking behind the screen.
Why do you need to comment this? Like we care? Eleven can be happy without Mike and also, there’s of evidence saying he doesn’t love her romantically. These people annoy me so much-
Like they say they aren’t mad when they literally typed a whole fucking paragraph 💀
SPOILERS:
So can we point out how the reason M!leven broke up in S3 was because Mike was lying? And now we have El lying to Mike? Again, another way to show how M!leven is not endgame
SAPPHIC BYLER HEADCANONS (some fluff and some angst)
Michelle and Willow braiding eachothers hair at sleepovers (even if Willow doesn't have as much hair to braid with lol).
They both make friendship bracelets that they NEVER take off (apart from when Michelle starts dating a male version of El....).
Both of them being more physically affectionate (holding hands, kissing cheeks etc), as it's more socially acceptable for girls, and blushing extremely hard whenever they do so.
S3 Michelle thinking that she has to wear makeup to grow up but instead of finding what she likes, she just copies her mother and doesn't like the style, but thinks she needs to wear it. Willow doesn't like makeup but ends up feeling insecure because she doesn't wear it.
S3 Michelle pretending to be dumb for male attention because she feels that's more important whereas Willow keeps putting her hand up in class and ends up being called "bossy" and "stuck up".
Michelle and Willow going to play out in the woods and getting their clothes dirty. Michelle wears a dress and Willow prefers shorts. Both are told it's not "ladylike".
Both of them sharing hair ties/hair clips etc and always having extras on them for the other.
Once they start dating Michelle loves to leave lipstick marks on Willow (once Michelle finally feels more comfortable on her own style of makeup).
When Willow leaves for California, she manages to steal a bottle of Michelle's perfume and sometimes sprays it on her pillow when she feels sad.
I have listened to You’re the heart and being different together at the same time guys holy shit-
I use she/theyThe bisexuality is strong with this oneSonic fan dubs and Kurtis Conner are the only things I laugh at anymore
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