Antinous: When The Crown Wonders Where The Prince Is, Only The Ocean And I Will Know!

In the light of recent events I have a very vivid image of Poseidon or his sirens munching on WiFi wires

I know I said this wasn't really an art account anymore...but this is epic the musical related so I hope you guys like it anyway? If I could go back and redo it there is a lot of things I'd change (namely Athena's design) but for now I'm pretty happy with it

Under appreciated moment in the Troy saga!!

I know everyone is still getting over the thunder saga (which is so fair) but listening to the remastered Troy saga reminded me of one of my favourite moments (musically) from the entirety of epic.

It’s in Open Arms (bc of course it is) and it’s when Polites and Odysseus first encounter the lotus eaters. It starts at 1:08 minutes in, where you can hear the chorus in the background building up this beautiful scale of notes like some kind of heavenly choir, and then they go back down again and it’s just?! So pretty?!

Like I don’t know what the musical term for it (I haven’t done music theory since high school) but it’s so pretty and it gives me so much serotonin. Definitely one of my favourite moments so far.

I came across this post by accident and got curious, pretty happy with my result, ngl

@the-tech-turn do u wanna play too?

I just found this quiz and it’s, phenomenal

Once a year, Penelope orders for a painter to come and make a painting of Telemachus.

So when Odysseus finally returns, there’s a gallery of 20 paintings, showing how year after year, Telemachus grew into the young man he was now.

In some of them, Telemachus is dressed properly as a prince of Ithaca. In others, he is doing some of his daily activities (reading, playing with Argos, writing, playing the lyre), as the painter came around so often that the prince stopped caring to pose for an entire day in an uncomfortable attire.

There is one, that Odysseus finds himself staring at the longest.

It’s the twelfth painting. Where Telemachus is accompanied by his mother.

The young boy sits at her side, as she carefully teaches him to weave. It was painted in their room, as a part of the olive tree that is their bed, is also captured in the back.

Odysseus sobs, and thanks his wife for bringing the lost years in such a beautiful form to him.

Even years after his return, the King often is found in the small gallery, watching his son slowly grow with each step.

(I love this family your honour)

Misinformation in the fandom

Yes I'm reposting this.

I need to get this off my chest because I've noticed this pattern in the fandom.The people that go on YouTube, Reddit and Tumblr to talk about how Calypso was cursed to fall in love with anyone who stepped on her island when that was Riordan's iteration of the Odyssey are the same people that swear that Jorge claimed that Calypso never raped Odysseus.I want to get this out of the way and say I couldn't find anything to prove that Jorge has said that.

I have looked on his IG, looked for receipts on Reddit and Tumblr, looked at his livestreams, everywhere I could think off I looked at and I found nothing so there's a huge chance that he didn't say it at all and it spread the same way the thing about Calypso did until it became this thing.So there's no evidence of him saying this (that I could find anyway).

First things first:If you pay attention to Not Sorry for Loving You (especially the language used in the song) Calypso expresses how she's not sorry for loving Odysseus, but how things are phrased on the song very much depicts subtle forms of manipulation.And is the subtly in the writing that is telling.

Firstly, how she starts out by saying that "if I pushed you, or ambushed you, for that I'll say I was wrong"To "I'm sorry if my love is too much for you"She's making her "apology" about her. When Odysseus tries to let himself be heard, she literally stops him and doesn't acknowledge him, making it about her again.

She still doesn't grasp completely that what she's feeling isn't love, she's still not taking real accountability, she's still posing this scenario as something hypothetical, not something that is real and that she's done to him.Even in Love in Paradise, the "soon into bed we'll climb" seems to imply that something he didn't want to happen did happen.

To Calypso and perhaps even Odysseus she's developmentally a child and while that doesn't dispute what she did and doesn't make it better, it just adds more nuance to her character. It gives us insight into Calypso while still making her come off as manipulative and ruthless (even if she's not aware of the fact).

That's the thing about abusers, that's how they behave (especially those who swear they aren't being abusive).Yes Calypso doesn't have the emotional tools to understand what she did is wrong, she's not like Circe, but that doesn't justify what she did and at no point is made clear she didn't sexualy assault him.

Now onto the next thing:

Should have Jorge made it clear whether or not she did rape Odysseus? I can't say for sure and you know why?Because Jorge said the song was written during a difficult moment of his life, and if for some reason he didn't feel comfortable saying what happened I have to respect that too. Whatever made him write it, we're not owned an explanation of. There. I said it.You're not entitled someone else's feelings or their stories or whatever else. Not every artists is going to take you by the hand and explain to you why their lyrics are like that and that's fine.

With that in mind, we need to be mindful of Jorge himself as a person as well.I say this because I've seen way too many people crossing the line, saying things when they don't know what they're saying (clearly based on the fact I can't even find any proof of Jay saying Calypso didn't rape Odysseus and boy did I try to find it) and it genuinely makes me worry because Jorge is a whole ass human being who clearly wrote the song like that for a reason so maybe y'all should think about that.I understand that representation of male victims of SA is important and I agree wholeheartedly, but it seems that this issue comes from people spreading something that doesn't seem to be true.If anything, I think Jorge may have realized that leaving implied is what caused this discussion and that's why he used the word rape in Odysseus, to shut it down.And yet, I have seen way too many people assuming he did say Calypso didn't rape Odysseus and spiraling because of it when again, I have been looking for proof of that for near a month and found nothing.This is just me begging you guys to engage with social media with some critical thinking. You can't just blindly believe everything you read online.

The lack of research has plagued most of everything online, but it costs nothing foe you guys to make sure you're not spreading something you don't know if it's true or not.

Part two of voting on your fave wisdom saga animatics

Or rather, the best ones to show to someone new to the fandom

I'm introducing my mom to Epic

It's not going well, she really hates the winions  😅  She thinks the name winions is not original cause it sounds too much like minions. So far she has referred to them as 'furries' and 'ewoks'...

This is why I don't animate the serious songs btw

Something I've been thinking a lot about recently

Would be Eurylochus's line in mutiny, "If you want all the power you must carry all the blame!" Because even though he sings it to Odysseus, it's not about Odysseus at all. That line perfectly encapsulates Eurylochus's own arc, and foreshadows his death.

I'm sure other people have talked about this as well, but I had to comment on it and how clever it is. Because Eurylochus did want all the power. For a while now, I think. That isn't to say he's been power hungry, but throughout the course of the musical he has grown increasingly dissatisfied with Ody's decisions. Especially from Ocean saga onwards, when Polites isn't there to keep the peace, I get the vibe that he feels that if only he was the one in charge, he could get them home. He would never have gotten them into these dangerous situations they find themselves in. It's his coping mechanism - blaming Odysseus helps keep his own guilt about the wind bag at bay. It's probably why he feels he can tell Odysseus about the wind bag, because he feels that it isn't entirely his fault.

Odysseus doesn't agree, of course, and all of this pent up anger and frustration finally comes to a head in Mutiny. Eurylochus yells this line to him, fully believing that Odysseus doesn't deserve to be in charge anymore and he has a point but that's a post for another day. What Eurylochus doesn't realise, though, is that when he takes Odysseus's power from him and becomes the leader, he will be held to the same standard.

So when he chooses to kill those cows, his words become a self fulfilling prophecy. For a moment, he had all the power. He made a choice. And he had to carry all the blame.