Fall is coming !
The temperatures have dropped, I can wear clothes again ! I missed drawing these two so I drew them to celebrate it.
i’m here for the LOV being chaotic dumbass but i think this arc is just more proof that hori has nothing to say about the politics of the world he created and that makes both the values of the protag and the antag extremely fucking dull
when i was a teen i was the only one out of my sisters to have a part-time job which gave me a lot of sway in the household as the one who could help mom with money and also buy my sisters treats (nevermind all the money they stole from me and my insane complexes about having to buy love). point is that i was the one who paid for like 90% of the music on my and my middle sister's shared iTunes account and also paid for stuff when we walked downtown together.
anyways one day me and my sisters are walking downtown and me and my middle sister are arguing about the lyrics of rem's orange crush. things get heated, maybe i pushed her onto the road, there were no cars that she couldn't safely escape. whatever. in any case when we got home later that day i looked up the lyrics we were arguing about, realised i was in the wrong, and promptly deleted the song off my iPod and our iTunes account.
all of this is a long-winded way to say that i think yoichi and all for one could have this exact same scenario except that all for one would try to find a way to kill rem entirely from existence.
i know you've touched on this subject before but it really pains me to hear how people voice their want for touya to die instead of being on life support despite the fact that he, himself, still wanted to live. "there are still arguments I want to have, and things I still want to say," after all.
i think people misunderstand a lot of touya's feeling about taking his own life at the end of it all. from what i took about his character, as soon as he reclaimed is name again, he regressed back into how he was emotionally as a child, and it only got worse from that point.
a damaged child, especially a neglected one, will always hurt themselves and care little when they've been shown no care. so how do they get that care? hurting themselves, and if necessary, ending their life. but he doesn't need to do that anymore.
he wanted to live, and though his circumstances are saddening (or well was, let's hope he can finally do things considering there was no confirmation), it's a good thing he showed some kind of regret about the fate he nearly had, and expressed a desire to still continue.
I think this is fully on how Horikoshi depicted the situation with needlessly cruel horror that feels really unnecessary.
If Ch 426 put more care into depicting Touya:
1. Not being in pain
2. Getting relief from his family coming to see him
3. Getting affirmation that he’s loved and always was
4. Showed that people were in fact grateful for being saved
People wouldn’t feel like Touya would have been better off dying. Think in comparison how nobody says that Spinner or Overhaul would have been better off being dead and it becomes painfully obvious how Horikoshi undermines his own narrative with the circumstances he set up, which feel like needless horror.
I fundamentally understand what he’s trying to portray, but I think his art choices are at odds with his narrative goal (if that is to depict a peaceful death for Touya as a fix-it for his violent death on Sekoto peak).
Even if he wanted to depict Touya’s hopeless, miserable state,he could have shown the chapter in parallel from an internal headspace where we can see child Touya getting emotional relief -sort of a continuation of the Ch 388 image.
honest question... was there really nothing spinner could've done to save Shigaraki? i really dunno what Hori thought by one more step.
i guess hypothetically if spinner had tried to take shigaraki and run and then get murdered because he's on an actual island with some scary motherfuckers. then at least his effort could have meant something to shigaraki and help him fight AFO's control sooner? or something?
here's the thing, for me. a) the story doesn't really suggest another path that spinner could have taken that he denied, to make his failure something concrete. difficult to run away, again he's on an actual island. the guy he wants to save is the one being possessed so can't really take him anywhere, he'll just be possessed about it. can't go to the heroes cuz the heroes suck ass. at most he could have refused the extra quirks from AFO to remain under his own power, but then horikoshi would have had a harder time figuring out how to get spinner to kurogiri because he really needs characters to be strong enough to smash things aside in order to get to the next plot point.
and b) i can't imagine a scenario where spinner tries something and survives it. and frankly the story has taught me to recognize that acts of heroism, goodness, and kindness only matter if you survive them. kouta's parents die heroically against muscular and he's traumatized for it, but is fixed when deku fights muscular and survives it. nana's regret isn't abandoning her kid, but dying to AFO - deku of course survives his encounters with the guy. deku's ultimate heroic act is him psychically holding tenko's hands before he can decay his family in the fake made up world of his mind of memories that cannot be meaningfully changed cuz the family murder already happened, and nevermind that tenko's mom's first instinct was to run towards her child with her arms outstretched to try and save him, reassure him. but she was stupid enough to do that in real life and die for it! sucks to suck i guess.
let's be real. this whole thing was basically written in to make deku seem ultra good, despite doing very little. i can't really take it as a meaningful reflection of spinner's failures.
Me: I'm done yapping
Reads Viz's translation for chpt 427
Actually no I'm not.
Let's talk about Izuku Midoriya, intense hero fanboy, everyone he looks up to is a hero, ect ect
Passively listening to Spinner as he sorrowfully tells him "he was my friend. He was my hero".
Like??? Midoriya doesn't even bat an eye but at the least that should resonate some with Midoriya. He can at least imagine what it'd be like to (permanently) lose All Might/Toshinori. Or Bakugou who was dead for long enough in the Sky Coffin. And we get.... A close up of Midoriya, showing some dark circles under his eyes and a blank stare. What. The. Fuck. Does he have so little empathy once people turn into "villains"? That he can't sympathize and try to ease their pain? And we're supposed to believe he has this incredible heart that's so inspiring to even antagonistic characters who've otherwise lost hope in hero society? (I'd maybe say that he's still processing the end of the war, dealing with his own stuff, ect ect and excuse that lack of interaction if not for the fact that he quips back "make it a comic book" - which he's not a big quip person so it's not like that's in his character to do, especially not during emotional exchanges. I'm sorry but it's just... callous at worst, tone deaf at best)
If someone can explain this chapter's Deku to me - not with suppositions, but with canon only evidence - that'd be great. But I no longer believe that Midoriya has such a great heart. Show don't tell, but we had plenty of telling and little showing.