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navy purple and orchid headcanon time...

i genuinely do not think navy left because purple wasnt "good enough" or because of purple at all; that was just a symptom in what was moreso orchid and navy's growing hatred of each other.

because like canonically, purple was drawn as navy and orchid's child (alan clarified this after people began asking about whether sex was canon post avm29.)

and i like to think that

1. they were all created and uploaded at the same time with the specific purpose of being a family

2. purple and their parents were representative of the animator and their parents; the flash they uploaded to newgrounds was a sort of way to "vent" and figure out their trauma before they properly processed it as trauma.

so orchid and navy were drawn specifically to be a loving couple towards each other, but also designed to have these conflicting traits (navy being stubborn and abusive, and orchid avoiding stepping in until things get dire to avoid confrontation).

(other funny thing is that purple was drawn as a girl because the animator was repressed transfem, but still built to be a "boy" because that's what the animator felt they had to be. hence tmasc purple. anyways anyways.)

both orchid and navy care about purple, but (and especially for navy) it's something that was hard wired into them rather than an active choice they made.

orchid is supposed to:

1. love her husband ("femininely")

2. love her child ("femininely")

which turns into:

1. agree/defer to/side with her husband

2. take care of/protect her child

navy is supposed to:

1. love his wife ("masculinely")

2. love his child ("masculinely")

which turns into:

1. command/guide his wife

2. mentor his child to fit them into the right role for society

(this is all from an indian societal perspective btw. their animators indian therefore theyre indian because i say so)

these begin to conflict because orchid needs to protect her child (which she enjoys and wants to do) but also needs to follow navy's lead (which she is less keen to she'd rather they compromise), and navy's lead is to Abuse purple, because he wants to turn purple into the model fighting stick to make himself feel good and fulfilled (fulfilling the purpose he was drawn for) and he has decided to take the easy route to train purple instead of putting any effort or compassion into it. this is a failing on his part, not as result of his code.

now orchid wants to protect purple, but she also can't bring herself to disagree with navy, so it ends up with her glancing away during most of their training so she can avoid the horrible gut feeling she gets whenever she stands up to navy, but she still steps in when purple is in danger of possible permanent injury. it's like she's bargaining with her own brain to satisfy both its "success" criterias.

navy does not like it when orchid fights back because of his own success criteria. they also learn, in the four years between them being animated and navy leaving, that they're really not compatible in any meaningful way because they're both very headstrong and stubborn, and have VERY different opinions on how things should be done even, if they're going for a common goal.

just to clarify; this does not in any way put orchid on the same level as navy. navy was still beating up his child ("sparring him" bitch thats a child!!) in order to try and make himself feel like a good dad. he refuses to compromise with orchid at all because of his own ego, even when she's willing to give up some of her own ideals if he accepts hers in turn. that's like... the basic building blocks of a relationship.

while they both did not do great raising purple, with some neglect (especially towards the end) orchid definitely got the short end of the stick. it's so important to me that orchid tried, but it's equally important to me that she failed sometimes.

even if gender roles in stick society end up being "abolished" or warped very quickly due to lack of contact with humans, it doesnt change the fact that the animator built orchid in with that "female subservience" that people often want from women due to the animator's own subconscious beliefs about women.

i imagine post divorce is like. the weight lifting off orchid. and a separate weight settling onto navy. orchid no longer has to choose between her two life purposes and navy has to deal with the guilt of knowing he failed both. ironically enough, she's milder after navy leaves. she does not feel the need to constantly match his fire to have a chance at protecting purple and now she can raise purple the way (she thinks) it's meant to be. her beautiful daughter; they can be a family free from navy's abuse finally.

but purple won't stop talking about papa and asking when he's going to come back and asking "what would papa think?" "papa always said no to this" "papa said to do it this way" and it gets... grating. she doesn't get violent, god she'd never, but she does snap or make a few tired comments sometimes.

it's like that one jack stauber animation. she calls him an idiot once in passing because he's so attached to the idea of navy returning even after months.

purple figured out he wasn't cis at like 12 (just a few months before orchid died) and expressed as much to orchid. and orchid, who knew very well that purple still really loved navy, possibly more than orchid, took this to think that purple wanted to transition to be a man like navy (not the case) and so she got upset and told purple off saying they needed to let go of navy. probably the worst thing orchid did to purple.

so purple felt awful and stayed in the closet. when they buried orchid they cried a bit for the fact that (in his head) she would never approve of the man he would become. orchid, if she had lived, probably would've come around to the idea after understanding more about purple's feelings, but was particularly emotional towards the end. and then she died. purple will never get closure on this.

tldr; the secret to avam is that all sticks have generational trauma.

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I'm a huge overdramatic overthinker and I really wanted to spill my interpretations and theories here—I had no idea it would do this well considering I have,, literal zero friends here. All the silly and kind tags in reblogs are making me encouraged to do more and interact JAJDJJWJWSJDJE I have a lot to say man, tell ur pebble plush I said hi

Purple being left completely untouched by the narrative, being raised by two confused parents who know nothing more than their artificial nurture. How to progress from being halted by the 2011 tragedy which affected them. The two can only do so much until some forbidden traits make their development, and in the worst way possible.

Navy and Orchid nuzzling up against each other and Purple. Navy seemingly resting the weight of his chin up top Purple's head, like a peck. Orchid burying her head into the crook of Navy's neck, nuzzling Purple's face. They were really, really in love.

and then the 2011 tragedy happens somewhat somewhere

Purple visibly grows, and Navy presents a material pose of combat, implying Purple to follow. Purple seems confused here, and then he looks towards his mom.

He wants to know Orchid's opinion of this—as a confused, stranded child would typically do in a situation as his.

Children, when foreign to these scenarios, will look for the approval of their other present parent before proceeding with a following action. In here, Orchid stands still, and her pose seems neutral, but she doesn't say no. And Purple proceeds. I thought this was a nice detail.

I feel like this adds a bit to Purple's relationship with his mom. Purple is comfortable enough towards her and he looks for reassurance in her when he is uncertain. That vulnerability is important. He really trusts her. And Orchid trusts him back.

I also feel like I can add onto Orchid from here. When she does not have a clear answer, she stays neutral/unresponsive instead of a shrug or such. This allows Purple to make his own decision on what he believes is okay. Instead of being dismissive.

When attacking, Purple throws valueless punches and kicks. Navy seemed to be allowing these rational, seemless blows, not budging. Redundantly shielding before attacking back with a somewhat rough punch to the gut, pushing him back.

In contrast to doing absolutely nothing. His ideal for "tutoring" isn't exactly clear, nor the best.

I can add onto Navy from here. Navy revolves around common sense. He is prone to adapt and rather quickly on his ideals. Once he has a clear goal, he will do whatever to achieve it. He is implied to be in a position of authority/control, and he seems to be short tempered. He wants the same for Purple. His method of this however, is far from coherent when targeted towards someone who is unfamiliar.

I believe this is Navy's flaw. Wanting the best for Purple materially-wise, but his approaches are not appropriate nor comprehensible like a strict parental role grounding should be. Appearing much more as a mentor; leader role. But not a father. Strictly leading more towards that uncompleted writing.

Purple would have nearly trampled to the ground if it weren't for Orchid catching him before he does.

I would like to mention Orchid's language here. She seems to be neutral while silently watching the banter. There wasn't anything to be concerned or worried of, until she stepped foward to catch her son. Her presence and relationship here is important, as mentioned.

When she catches Purple, she (very swiftly) glances towards Navy then back to Purple. She reads the room, implying she is quite observant, and immediately offered a comforting embrace, just as Purple came clinging to her for that comfort. She definitely knows her baby, that's for sure.

But this ends up dramatically changing.

I feel like this adds a layer onto Purple and Orchid's relationship. Orchid is quick to provide that care. She knows when to provide it. Purple has a secure attachment towards her and trusts her to respond towards his needs.

Navy idles a light pester for Purple to stand his ground and continue. This prompts a glance of judgement? Disgust? Concern? from Orchid, targeted towards—attempting to incriminate him. To reflect on those actions.

This got dismissed by a stomp of Navy's foot. The moment he's not in control he resorts to shouting and raising his manner. Keep in note that Orchid is absent throughout the entire second sequence.

Navy, once again, does a gesture to continue. This time it was much more swift. Not coherent on the first watch. Purple significantly grows here again, and for whatever reason, this halts the grounding for a mere second as both acknowledge this. For what reason was the growth such a great significance?

I interpret that the growth somewhat stunned the two as they acknowledge that they are equally stranded. The two shares a common trait; abandonment by the narrative and lost in their assigned role. No further action can be developed, but the difference is Navy being willing to push those bounds if it means something for himself. He needs to feel worth, he wants to do his role justice, he wants to compliment that purpose he was coded with.

Both pushes this aside, and they proceed with the sparring. The intentions of Purple's kicks and punches aren't laced with confusion and uncertainty, but with a clear goal now that Purple is aware of the context; his dad wishes for him to be a profession in combat.

Now that this is established, Navy doesn't hold back, and he throws a harsh gesture of demand towards Purple to continue.

And as mentioned, Orchid isn't present throughout all of this.

I take this all as a direct contrast to the previous banter. Navy's near audibility, and Orchid's occupancy. It's all apparent when recalling the sequence. Directly, I like to interpret this as a mere rough visual on the substantial (and noticeable) change and gap.

Navy's gesture was linked with a harsh eagerness instead of a lighthearted pester.

Orchid could not catch Purple before he could be roughly pushed to the ground this time.

Despite her attendance being postponed, she supported Purple to sit up, placing a protective hand on Purple's head. Purple desperately covers his ears/clings and compresses his head here. Orchid then motions for Navy to suspend the training.

Now, I find this reaction from Purple a bit weird, and different. Purple would cling towards Orchid in search of comfort, but now he results to clinging/soothing towards himself.

I feel as though his mom's recent (and recurring) lack of interference, protection, presence, and comfort serves a great purpose towards this reaction.

Orchid does not interfere unless it seems as though her son is being overpowered/trampled upon. She has her priorities, but it isn't exactly the best per se, it just comes off as a bit neglectful.

As I mentioned previously, Purple's compressing here is a soothing gesture for him. You can see him repeat this action every time he is in one of his distressed meltdowns.

For comparison, the CG often resorts to this manner when in distress, but the difference between them and Purple comes into place when Purple rather hazardously hurts himself and spends a while self loathing.

Orchid and Purple got cut short upon Navy's motions towards them. Navy develops this stance to appear wider and threatening. Orchid ever so slightly stiffens, and Purple's desperate self clinging melts into a confused halt as his muscles relaxes.

Orchid and Purple experienced the same suspenseful fear, so they both react the same way. Orchid's protective hold loosens as Purple fixates his position into a bow.

Bowing is certainly a different/unusual reaction towards a potential act of domestic abuse. I read this as moreso of a plead, a way of trying to appear smaller; to shrink away from the scene. He doesn’t attempt to defend Orchid.

Orchid seemed to already have her arms slightly leveled in self defense. Navy raises an arm, and Orchid flinches and covers herself, suspecting and preparing for an unwanted pair of hands. But instead, she is met with a dismissing attire. Orchid hangs her head low.

Earlier I mentioned Orchid being observant. She was acutely aware of what was going on in the household, so she kept her avoidance. Afraid of the possibilities it can develop into with the given context that both herself and Navy are struggling to make ends meet in follow up to their role. Her absence speaks volumes on this.

But she would never interfere until she was sure it was a necessity and that her son was in danger. That is where I believe her fatal flaw becomes a bit more clearer. And this significantly affects Purple. And it shows. But that is for a whole other post.

Navy proceeds to exit the environment. Purple hazily gets up off his position and rushes to oppose his dad's decision. And for a mere beat, Navy looks back towards Purple, before turning away and continuing.

I would like to comment on Navy's language here. He appears visibly more slumped upon returning back to his motion of abandonment after being presented to his son's pleads.

Purple's interference and ability to live up to Navy's training was a huge significance in Navy himself. It's his role, it's what he was made to do. It's not that Navy didn't care, it's that he cared too much.

And when Purple was a lost cause, Navy was left disappointed. Purple's purpose was his purpose. In his eyes, he did nothing wrong. In his eyes, Orchid stepped in between their relationship and in between his designated purpose, wanting to halt it.

Until he came into the realization that perhaps his methods were out of his traits rather this his role. And this took a toll on him. He messed up, and he can't reverse it.

But Navy stopped himself before he could lay his hands on Orchid. Maybe this one time, he doesn't rely on his traits to motivate his actions, but as a role; a husband role. And left.

Purple in this sequence has yet another significant growth transition upon chasing Navy.

This could either be taken as metaphorically or literally.

You can argue that literally, this could read that the split was more of a legal process which explains Purple's odd transition growth in compliment of Navy's slow disappearance.

Metaphorically, you can argue that Purple's odd transition symbolizes time spent agonizing over his dad's abandonment. Navy's slow disappearance implying just the time spent over him.

The sequence is not very specific so run wild with whatever interpretations you have. It's not really like anything is. This sequence was much rather an explanation towards Purple's intentions and actions, not a fully fleshed out explanation towards his own homelife situation—since he believes it doesn't really add anything. (Which is true in the given context, it doesn't excuse his actions, and it wasn't the appropriate time to loathe over his abuse.)

Navy completely vanishes from the scene. Purple's position upon the absence is visibly slumped. And Orchid.. she does not look back towards Navy, really not once. And then her legs began to give out from underneath her.

Purple immediately fixated his attention towards her, dismissing any of his personal sorrow. Offering his aid and help.

Orchid doesn't provide an ounce of comfort towards Purple following Navy's abandonment. She is too detached herself.

If her illness was not enough, she's also actively grieving a split. Not just any split, but as though her other half diminished. And that's tough.

Now, the illness is unknown. But I can debate that the split (at the least) played a bit of a part. We do not have any references to how sickness exactly plays out in the avam universe besides this one example.

Orchid quickly succumbs to her illness, stumbling over herself, even with Purple's help. Her notes are visualized as shaky, grainy, and awfully saturated in reference to that weakness. Until she met her peace.

Purple laying the saturated, torn notes can possibly imply that he had to bury his mom, or took a position in aiding for her rest.

And Orchid's death greatly affected him. He stands unresponsive on Orchid's tomb. Created to be child of two and left to be a child of none. Without anyone, without a purpose.

But it doesn’t have to be this way. The only scenario that can pause and distract Purple's utter numbness from his mom's death was to cling and search for the only other present alive parent; his dad.

But Navy's love had to be earned.

And that was a scheme that Purple was willing to chase after, no matter what it took.

We never really saw Purple and Green actually fight, like a full-on fight. There are 2 confrontations, and Purple only blocks and defends. I would pay so much to see an actual spar

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If you're a Stickman with a hole in your face, you're going to dance badly.

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