NAVHYYY navh Navy u NOPEEE nope it's not bad if you love him because HES JUST SUCH A GOOD WRITTEN CHARACTER ITS INSANE
Is it bad I like navy
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i genuinely do not think navy left because purple wasnt "good enough" or because of purple at all; that was just a symptom in what was moreso orchid and navy's growing hatred of each other.
because like canonically, purple was drawn as navy and orchid's child (alan clarified this after people began asking about whether sex was canon post avm29.)
and i like to think that
1. they were all created and uploaded at the same time with the specific purpose of being a family
2. purple and their parents were representative of the animator and their parents; the flash they uploaded to newgrounds was a sort of way to "vent" and figure out their trauma before they properly processed it as trauma.
so orchid and navy were drawn specifically to be a loving couple towards each other, but also designed to have these conflicting traits (navy being stubborn and abusive, and orchid avoiding stepping in until things get dire to avoid confrontation).
(other funny thing is that purple was drawn as a girl because the animator was repressed transfem, but still built to be a "boy" because that's what the animator felt they had to be. hence tmasc purple. anyways anyways.)
both orchid and navy care about purple, but (and especially for navy) it's something that was hard wired into them rather than an active choice they made.
orchid is supposed to:
1. love her husband ("femininely")
2. love her child ("femininely")
which turns into:
1. agree/defer to/side with her husband
2. take care of/protect her child
navy is supposed to:
1. love his wife ("masculinely")
2. love his child ("masculinely")
which turns into:
1. command/guide his wife
2. mentor his child to fit them into the right role for society
(this is all from an indian societal perspective btw. their animators indian therefore theyre indian because i say so)
these begin to conflict because orchid needs to protect her child (which she enjoys and wants to do) but also needs to follow navy's lead (which she is less keen to she'd rather they compromise), and navy's lead is to Abuse purple, because he wants to turn purple into the model fighting stick to make himself feel good and fulfilled (fulfilling the purpose he was drawn for) and he has decided to take the easy route to train purple instead of putting any effort or compassion into it. this is a failing on his part, not as result of his code.
now orchid wants to protect purple, but she also can't bring herself to disagree with navy, so it ends up with her glancing away during most of their training so she can avoid the horrible gut feeling she gets whenever she stands up to navy, but she still steps in when purple is in danger of possible permanent injury. it's like she's bargaining with her own brain to satisfy both its "success" criterias.
navy does not like it when orchid fights back because of his own success criteria. they also learn, in the four years between them being animated and navy leaving, that they're really not compatible in any meaningful way because they're both very headstrong and stubborn, and have VERY different opinions on how things should be done even, if they're going for a common goal.
just to clarify; this does not in any way put orchid on the same level as navy. navy was still beating up his child ("sparring him" bitch thats a child!!) in order to try and make himself feel like a good dad. he refuses to compromise with orchid at all because of his own ego, even when she's willing to give up some of her own ideals if he accepts hers in turn. that's like... the basic building blocks of a relationship.
while they both did not do great raising purple, with some neglect (especially towards the end) orchid definitely got the short end of the stick. it's so important to me that orchid tried, but it's equally important to me that she failed sometimes.
even if gender roles in stick society end up being "abolished" or warped very quickly due to lack of contact with humans, it doesnt change the fact that the animator built orchid in with that "female subservience" that people often want from women due to the animator's own subconscious beliefs about women.
i imagine post divorce is like. the weight lifting off orchid. and a separate weight settling onto navy. orchid no longer has to choose between her two life purposes and navy has to deal with the guilt of knowing he failed both. ironically enough, she's milder after navy leaves. she does not feel the need to constantly match his fire to have a chance at protecting purple and now she can raise purple the way (she thinks) it's meant to be. her beautiful daughter; they can be a family free from navy's abuse finally.
but purple won't stop talking about papa and asking when he's going to come back and asking "what would papa think?" "papa always said no to this" "papa said to do it this way" and it gets... grating. she doesn't get violent, god she'd never, but she does snap or make a few tired comments sometimes.
it's like that one jack stauber animation. she calls him an idiot once in passing because he's so attached to the idea of navy returning even after months.
purple figured out he wasn't cis at like 12 (just a few months before orchid died) and expressed as much to orchid. and orchid, who knew very well that purple still really loved navy, possibly more than orchid, took this to think that purple wanted to transition to be a man like navy (not the case) and so she got upset and told purple off saying they needed to let go of navy. probably the worst thing orchid did to purple.
so purple felt awful and stayed in the closet. when they buried orchid they cried a bit for the fact that (in his head) she would never approve of the man he would become. orchid, if she had lived, probably would've come around to the idea after understanding more about purple's feelings, but was particularly emotional towards the end. and then she died. purple will never get closure on this.
Hear me out, no, fucking listen to me.
Victim has DID. Each past death + clones are an alter, the last one who survived is the host that split into two: one being the one left with memories of Mitsi and the other being the one we see front in the box.
Soon after AvA10, Victim realises that TSC is in the early stages of the same disorder with most of the alters not being very conscious.
Therefore, instead of trying to help or leaving it be, Victim Rocket (the host) purposefully worsens the situation and makes Orange split a shit ton of alters by various ways of torture and manipulation. Their alters try to stop them, but they can't. They're too weak to front.
They tell Shady Smith that it's to benefit from the kid's powers easier or some shit. But in reality, they see their "weak selves" (the rest of the alters) in TSC (+Yellow and TCO). They're trying to be "the superior one in the power dynamic". They are trying to control their surroundings.
Cowboy manages everything in The Second Coming system and puts Orange (the host) through many puzzles and challenges to keep them distracted and away from the front... away from whatever horrifying thing Victim is doing to them...
Victim knows the host is hidden deep in the mindspace. They try to lure the host out bc they deem the rest of the system useless. Orange tries to get out of there after realising what's been happening. Cowboy can only keep them* safe for so long...
*Every sentient being you see in AvE and more... (Yes, the Math symbols and the multi-dimentional creatures are alters.)
not sure yet. but no one can stop me from giving like half my sonic gijinkas long bangs so they can look edgy and cool
Grapeduo lazy doodles dumps, i havent had much motivation to do anything proper lately.... also the last drawing is based off of this song i was obsessed with it for a while and had to make it about grapeduo LAWL The part where i drew purple in, is in the chorus "eu ja deitei no seu sorriso, só você não sabe" which the literal translation for it would be "i already lied down on your smile, you're the only one who doesn't know that" but what it basically means "i've already fallen for your smile, but you don't know that"
YESSSSSS YOU GET IT
oomf brought up something and my mind exploded
a Theory
hi im coming back from the twitter trenches just to post this
dips for another year or something
IM SCREAMING
more navy pixel art stuff
16 años I rarely write & draw and it is admittedly not the best 🌸🎶🔵 not very active but I try my best to interact when I am!!
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