In The Dlc Gameplay Trailer, We See A Boss Version Of Huw Placed In Rellana's Arena. Which Of My Two

Messmer's unused voice lines I never heard about before?

"For what purpose... did I..."

Not sure if it’s just me who’s been living under a rock for the past 8 months or not, but apparently besides the cut dialogue related to Miquella, Messmer also has unused audio files (the lines Jack Barton actually voiced). Here Messmer politely reminds Tarnished that we're both unworthy of the Erdtree and even questions his own actions with a broken voice:

Video from: Cinematic Showcase: Messmer The Impaler - Elden Ring Shadow of The Erdtree

he lets mama braid his hair

Alrighty girlies, I won’t let us ignore him any longer.

This guy. This fucking guy. He’s a great summon, good health, AMAZING damage, and most importantly: Messmer lore.

WARNING: This joke post got super out of control. Get ready for a mini-essay below

He was second in command to his commander father, Andreas. Both served Messmer until Andreas discovered his “serpentine nature”, this lead to a rebellion that the commander led. Naturally, his son follows him to the end, that end being imprisoned deep within a catacomb. All pretty standard lore, shows that Messmer’s troupes weren’t entirely cool with the genocide they were doing. What I want to talk about is this line that is only on Huw’s description, and not his father’s.

“Messmer mourned the loss of a brother-in-arms”

If this line was on both Ashes, I would assume that Messmer mourned the lost men in the rebellion, despite their betrayal. Yet it’s only present on the captain’s description, not the man who led the rebellion in the first place. You know damn well what I’m about to do with this.

The main reason I’m jumping straight to “they were probably like a little gay” and not that Messmer was close to the leader of his main offensive force is the fact that Huw is a second in command. I would assume that a lord would have a better bond with the lead commander, there are less steps of hierarchy in between their positions. Messmer would have also known Andreas longer, (Let’s be real Huw got that position via nepotism) thus there would be higher familiarity.

What should also be mentioned is that Messmer’s feelings about others (excluding his mother) are hardly lingered on. Rellana was his sword, yet we only know her motives, not his. He was friends with Gaius due to both of them being cursed and also being mentor figures for Radahn, but there’s much more about Gaius and Radahn’s bond than between him and Messmer. This is the only (?) time that Messmer’s feelings on the matter are mentioned so bluntly. “Comrade-in-arms” in the context of Elden Ring is used much more frequently. If I remember correctly, this is what Freyja calls you if you summon her for the Dancing Lion. I’d argue that using brother is a signifier of a deeper relationship. To view someone not as an ally but as family, someone you couldn’t live without, a loved one. There’s also the fact that it’s mentioned that Huw followed his father. That reads like he was hesitant to betray Messmer, but his blood came before any affection he had for his Liege. Isn’t that the most classic of Tragedy? To choose your flesh and blood over your heart’s greatest desire? I’d hate to get poetic here, but the story writes itself.

Huw’s coffin was more beautifully decorated than that of his father. There were active guards, flowers, the room was larger. It’s quite gaudy when compared to Andreas’ open coffin in what could be described as a closet when it comes to size comparison. One was buried like a champion, beloved by a lord. The other buried with minimum respect given his status, but with the bitterness of betrayal.

Brother-in-arms.

Apparently y’all like your deranged men so here’s another one lol

The Fire Knights

If Messmer is an Empyrean, I think the winged serpents could be his other self. Them being one of his aspects would explain the otherwise mysterious nature of their intertwined existence, only unlike Marika/Radagon or Miquella/Trina, they were never fully separated. Messmer is a snake, having a snake as his other half only makes sense.

This is just a piece of another thumbnail for a lore video about Messmer. Poor mama’s boy 🐍🔥🔥

i did a miserable huw x messmer mix based on things written and things being wrote... – listen on youtube