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Ni+Te versus Ti

It is easy to confuse Ni and Ti because they both share analytical properties.

Both Te/Ti are Thinking functions and use reason to evaluate data. They both look for cause-effect relationships. Te evaluates data for predictable rules and principles because it needs to take action effectively and efficiently, whereas Ti evaluates data for rules and principles that are internally consistent. Te does not care about the rules and principles in themselves as long as they work well for doing things effectively in the external world, whereas Ti cares about whether the rules and principles are consistent with other rules and principles, it is more systematic and wants to create a holistic and coherent theory regardless of whether or not that theory agrees with objective principles and, in order to do this, it needs to gather much more data than Te. Te sees a reliable cause-effect relationship and can move forward immediately, whereas Ti sees a cause-effect relationship and first wants to know what lies behind that relationship (the “why”) before it can move forward. Te utilizes easily observable formulas, whereas Ti utilizes elegant formulas it has created itself. Since they are both Thinking functions, they will sometimes agree about the truth of certain rules or principles but the path they take to reach agreement differs.

Ni gathers data from different abstract perspectives, trying to see something from many angles in order to accurately predict what might happen. This resembles Ti to some extent because it is also holistic in nature in terms of wanting to understand the bigger picture and it also wants to understand future effects. But Ni is a perceiving function so it is deeper and more sprawling and connects many different kinds of abstract relationships, not just cause-effect ones (e.g. metaphorical, symbolic, qualitative, logical, correlational, interpersonal, etc). Ti is a judging function so it connects concepts directly and efficiently by ruthlessly excising “irrelevant” information, whereas Ni takes in as much information as possible and links it to one’s knowledge in any way possible. Ni hoards all information, whereas Ti wants to take a knife to it once it is collected through the perceiving functions. Ti sees the world like a machine, with many different parts working together, but the parts are clearly separate and understood separately and then put back together into a closed system - anything unrelated to the “system” is cut away and dismissed. Ni sees the world like a network, but the parts are not clearly defined and not necessarily logically connected. So Ni needs a judging function to help it understand those connections more clearly. Ni needs Te to systematize itself.

INTJs use Te to make sense of Ni’s data in accordance with objective rules and principles, so Ni+Te can easily be mistaken for Ti. But Te has an outward focus and is action-oriented. Ni makes INTJs want to understand the world and Te makes them want to act on that knowledge either to realize potential or act in accordance with the future potential that they see. Ti is not as action-oriented. It focuses on discovering immediate effects rather than long range future potential unless it has another function like Ne or Ni to assist it, so Ti is much more limited and simplistic in what it can see compared to Ni+Te because Ni has a broader and deeper scope.

If INTJs get “stuck in their heads” and are too passive in life, they will start to feel uncomfortable because they have an underlying need to take action and achieve things because of Te. If they don’t listen to that need, they will feel restless, as though they are wasting their life. “Passive” INTJs who have not developed Te well enough are more likely to think they use Ti because their focus is too inwardly directed with Ni+Fi, meaning that they might confuse their lower Fi impulses as being Ti related (due to both being introverted judging functions and having the same structural framework). These INTJs just want to do what they feel comfortable doing according to their own understanding and ignore the call of Te/Se to take action to achieve goals and success, and this can eventually lead to existential boredom, unhappiness, or dissatisfaction or possibly an Ni-Fi loop.

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The Difference between ENTPs and INTPs

Let’s be honest, a lot of people confuse ENTPs and INTPs. Is it possible to figure out why that is? Well, probably only an xNTP can figure it out.

It’s easy to confuse an ENTP for an INTP because they share the same cognitive functions. INTPs are Ti-Ne-Si-Fe, while ENTPs are Ne-Ti-Fe-Si. An individual who’s good at juggling those functions can easily come off as something they’re not. This applies to all introvert versus extrovert dichotomies.

But here’s the thing. When you switch I for E, the top function changes from a judging function to a perceiving function or vice verse. I can’t speak for the other switches, but in INTPs vs ENTPs, this can be pretty obvious - at least to me, considering I am one.

In a nutshell, INTPs take something complicated and make it simple. ENTPs take something simple and make it complicated.

Now, neither of these is good nor bad, it’s just how we function. But let’s explore it.

INTPs have Ti first and Ne second. That means an INTP is predominantly a judger; he or she likes to have things decided. The thing is, this judging function is internal, so that decisiveness is internal. That means an INTP’s concern is primarily with ideas and internal life, where an INTP can narrow down an idea down to its most basic core. This is how an INTP “takes something complicated and makes it simple”. An INTP is far more concerned with absorbing an idea through Ne and stripping it down with Ti, in order to connect it back to other ideas with Ne.

In contrast, ENTPs lead with Ne and have Ti second. When Ne leads, it wants to project outwards and see what’s out there. In this case, Ti serves as a leash, to make sense of and organize all the ideas and data coming in from Ne. In the case of an ENTP, the logic is there to gain an understanding of an idea, and then intuition wants to expand on that and explore the possibilities. In this way, the Ne overrides the Ti - it’s not about cutting down to the core of an idea, so much as understanding an idea enough to see what its possibilities are.

Now, neither of these are better than the other. I know a lot of ENTPs and they’re fantastic people to interact with. But the reality of the situation is that if you understand the difference, they have very different motivations. The INTP wants to understand what is, and the ENTP wants to understand what could be.

So there you have it. Ignore social conventions, and try to pay attention to where a conversation goes. The INTP will try to close down options and come down to a single idea, whereas the ENTP will try to open up options and see what a single idea can mean.

Does that help at all?