Ik Its A Kids Show So Theyd Probably Never Delve Into This. But In The Universe Where Chat Noir And Hawkmoths

Hhhate it when people on my side of an argument are making bad points. You’re literally right why are you being stupid about it

Funniest fandoms are where the fans are like, "I'm obsessed with this. I don't recommend it even slightly."

i really do need miraculous to timeskip 20 years in the future idgaf about adrienette rn but i do care about their toxic marriage so badly. but i don't want to write it myself. i think it'd be like a psychological horror on both ends. like marinette loving adrien but over the course of years and years isn't sure where the love ends and the guilt begins. it's too late to come clean now. etc. is she with him because she truly cares about him or is it because she can't bring herself to harm him in anyway? is there a difference? on the other end if adrien ever found out he was a senti and marinette knew and didn't inform him for years, there's some insane psychological horror of knowing ur s/o was fully capable of giving you orders in some way without you knowing and there's no way to prove she did or did not. nothing but trust which has immediately been broken because she lied for 20 yrs or whatever. (stares off into the distance) they should be the main characters in a victorian short story they make freshman read and annotate in English class . and instead it's ml

okay not to say any of these aren't valid takes people can like what they like and make what they want it's just crazy to me this is what people focus on when they're writing reviews of miraculous ladybug. or they get mad because it's a baby kids show for babies which like okay get real. in my opinion the worst thing about miraculous ladybug is simply that its narrative is completely incoherent. it can't hold a theme to save its life so it picks 5000 and puts it in a blender. it's a baby kids show and gabriel vomits ash in the finale from internal-cataclysming but they can't handle adrien finding out his dad is like. bad. and child abuse is like. wrong. if you can't handle child abuse as a theme then do not make hawk gabriel agreste moth a FATHER!!! crazy work.

i hate miraculous ladybug but i disagree with everyone else who hates miraculous ladybug and that's my true real problem. no video essay does it for me because they're literally wrong (because my opinion is always right btw) and every salt blog is wrong. "adrien should be the main protagonist" wrong. "the biggest problem is marinette being a stalker" wrong bad faith argument not understanding the genre (though it is a valid criticism to be uncomfortable with it personally) "marinette is a mary sue" literally wrong. "adrien is a gary stu" wrong. "adrien sucks and this is why marinette should get with some random guy named robin." what the fuck are you talking about.

At a certain point, ppl really have to understand that you can't really judge anything normally in ML bc the writing is just that bad. It reminds me of the discourse over Marinette killing the sentis Gabriel sent after them. Stop looking at it as "Marinette is a murderer for killing sentis" and look it as "the writing is so inconsistent that they can't decide which sentis count as real people", and it's the same for this bc the senti logic is one of the worst parts of the lore. These characters are not real and do not operate on any internal logic bc there is none. That should be what the focus is. You're not gonna find any real answers looking at things from a Watsonian perspective anymore unless you're doing it as a fun thought experiment and absolutely nothing else

Precisely

You can’t follow the show’s logic and arrive to a conclusion that hasn’t already contradicted itself

That’s why I (and so many others) choose to focus on on critiquing the meta aspects instead of wasting time on a fool’s errand

I don’t get why it’s so difficult for some people to understand that

the ONE advantage the sentimonster adrien thing has, storytelling-wise, the one thing it has going for itself, is that it makes emilie tremendously interesting, even more than we expected. not only are both her husband and son obsessed with her, not only do they have goddamn STATUES of her in their home, but she also created her son in her image. with the same exact looks, the same delicate beauty and cat-like green eyes, the same sensitive and turbulent and emotional personality... it's deranged and narcissistic and plain weird. there is SO much that could be done here if the show plays its cards right. alas, since it's the agrestes, we'll get nothing as usual. ✌️

maybe i could crack open my rewrite doc again... make her sparkle...

MIRACULOUS CHAT NOIR⁉️⁉️⁉️

i think miraculous ladybug should be legend of korra season 1. in the sense there's like a romance plotline that drives a lot of character drama but the main driver of conflict is the setting itself of a nitty gritty under city with a lot of problems with a heroine slowly discovering it outside of its sparkly exterior - mostly set at night, noir type aesthetics and undercover missions, an intimidating faceless villain that manipulates crowds. the thing is that legend of korra also sucks to me but more in the political messaging it does (it doesn't let korra make any substantial changes to her world) but it's a shit ton better than miraculous ladybug. but generally i think lok season 1 is the Vibe and Tone that the miraculous with the current themes would most fit? like aiming for an older audience but not an ADULT show.