RAAHHHHHH I LOVE THIS!!!This is an excellent lore!I love how it takes inspiration in gnosticism and jewish folklore!the design is perfect,he is so beautiful and deadly.
I also have my own version of samael,but you can ignore.i also yap alot so sorry if it is too much.
Questions
What is his dynamic with god,lucifer,the archangels,adam,lilith,cain and charlie?
Does he oppose charlie's redemption?or supports it?
What is his importance in heaven?
Backstory of his alter-ego and what is called
Character design lore(why his wings are black,halo is red and has thorns/horns motif,etc.)
What is his biblically accurate form?
Can i yap about my version?some of it is similar as yours but not quite
My version is like this(you can just ignore it)
He pretends to support charlie's redemption only to sabotage it and actually oppose it so he can punish sinners by manipulating charlie thinking he is supporting her.which is half true and half lie by challenging her with subtle moral dilemmas and luring charlie to redeem people that are irreedemable(ex.he will question charlie why she does not want to make a warlord enter the hotel,when jesus let people like paul in.)
his role in the fall of man was that he was the one who planted the forbidden tree also known as the tree of death or good and evil.that bears fruit of forbidden knowledge.
He is an atheist because god thinks while being absolutely disgusted at the idea of him having nonbelievers,anything that is not his is the works of nonbelievers(god's prototype idea of the devil even before lucifer born) and since there is a void before him.that void is repurposed as "samael".this void is also a realm where he is absent and all his failed creations go.a reference that samael in kabbalah is a realm of doubt,insanity and failed creations at the tree of death.
Samael is repurposed despite being the literal absence of god as god's vengeful hand.also known as the left hand of god(left-god)
He is the archangel of death,retribution and vengeance.he has two swords named revenge and avenge.he is formerly the warden of purgatory that soon to be hell and now the prosecutor.
He is also doing god's dirty work.from killing the firstborns of egypt,to stopping abraham from sacrificing isaac only to replace it with a sheep,beating up jacob/israel.and even doing the punishment instead of god as that will make him not so all-benevolent.samael is known as the destroyer of sinners.aka the first exterminator.
He also has your design but more black and wears a prosecutor uniform with a stole that resembles a priest like yours but black instead of white.mine has a halo that is like an atom is black but glows white like lute's halo.he is also the one who gives adam his army at first helps adam but in reality will worship adam as the "image of god" and exploit adam's flaws (subservient women to please his ego,letting him name them as adam do in the animals in eden,etc.)that gives adam this frat boy personality and why he thinks everyone shall worship him at the end of hh season 1.he hates humanity as much as god when he flood the earth.
He is not the father of cain tho.he is instead the guardian angel of cain when he is in exile who basically kills anyone who harms cain.and he is also the one who kills cain as his first soul exterminated as he is the 700 fold vengeance commanded by god that is stated in the bible.
He will be the anti-thesis to charlie's whole redemption.and calls her an anti-christ,never her name.call out her mistakes and failure.basically the satan of the satan.and just like how jesus christ is tempted by satan in the bible for a test.he will do this to charlie as a test.he will shatter charlie's view of heaven and hell with his atheistic beliefs like how useless the endless war of heaven and hell,heaven and hell is not forever or how all of these are mere phantoms,fairy tales so charlie can focus more on the sinners he called egoists.he always warns charlie by comparing her mistakes to the bible(ex. He will compare charlie's slay of the exorcists and adam with mentioned bible verses(matthew 10:34,luke 19:27),making her a hypocrite and expose charlie's savior complex.)
He last name is SufferingStar (etymology of disaster) to contrast the morningstar.
Our atheists are pious people -max stirner
Basically this is who he is,a pious atheist so charlie cannot use the heaven/hell discourse to him and cannot use any religious texts.it must have a scientific evidence and actual redemption which charlie severely lacks.
Say hello to my interpretation of Hazbin Hotel's Samael! Contrary to popular belief, while their may be some theological traditions which assert Samael and Lucifer/Satan are the same entities, the former is largely a separate figure entirely! Although he's typically recognized as an Angel of Death, I decided to go a different route and turn him into Heaven's unofficial "Angel of Doom." He's effectively the deliverer of divine disaster, as well as the very embodiment of God's own hate which they purged from themselves before the universe's genesis to ensure their holy immaculacy. My Samael is pretty much the unlucky bastard who does all of God's dirty work β a job that no doubt gets pretty stressful after a few thousand centuries of doing it, hence why he sorta kinda developed a distorted alter-ego to help him cope with all the carnage, chaos, and cataclysm he invokes on a regular basis. If anyone's curious about him and would like to ask any questions, feel free to hmu!! I desperately crave the opportunity to yap more about him... π¨: https://www.instagram.com/eve.motherofall/
HELLO THE WEBSITE HAS UPDATED and different things happen when you type things into the computer on the screen. if a character/word isnt relevant the computer gives a red X. so far i've found:
stanley: takes you to an ebay search for brass knuckles
mabel: adds stickers to the set. you can keep hitting enter until the the room has been "fully mabelized"
ford/sixer: a case file on ford's extra digits
soos: a long set of notes about how soos is doing running the mystery shack
dipper: a note presumably from bill to dipper "informing" him that he can decode messages by staring into the sun. if you enter his name multiple times bill urges you to keep looking with words of encouragement as each note becomes progressively blurry and splotched with black until the entire notecard turns black
bill: this youtube video (and no it's not a rickroll)
gideon: an audio recording plays of gideon humming/scatting to the tune of "we'll meet again", ending with a whispered message of "i love you, mabel"
wendy: a note pranking you with the the π emoji
mcgucket/fiddleford: the cotton eye joe music video
pacifica: a warning note about the book of bill mabel made her write
robbie: chat messages between him and thompson as they prepare to summon bill (as mentioned in tbob) with an image of their encounter
tad strange: the computer plays clips of bread being sliced set to jazzy instrumentals. this enables the glowing red button on the computer to turn green to switch the bread videos on and off at will
blendin: a message appears on the screen reading "time agent lost and presumed incompetent"
weirdmagedon: a newspaper page from the gravity fall's gossiper utilising the "nevermind-all-that-" act and stating "nothing happened" that day
axolotl: text onscreen appears: "you ask alotl questions"
T.J. eckleburg: text onscreen appears: "never mention that name again"
cipher: links to a wikipedia page about triangles
blanchin: pulls up a youtube tutorial on how to blanche vegetables
triangle: one half of a parenthesis appears on the computer ")"
dippy fresh: links to this image
mystery shack: links to a google search for confusion hill
gravity falls: text appears onscreen reading "never heard of it"
portal: text appears onscreen reading "portal.exe has been deleted. i bet you could build one"
theraprism: a notice sign appears- "in case of (coded words) do not use elevators" with a graphic of a person and a cthulu like monster on stairs
blind eye: an eye chart utilising the same string of letters- "WKHBOOVHH" that gets smaller each line, paired with blocks of color- the cursor turns into a "zoom in" tool that actually just makes the page blurrier with each click
creepypasta/horror: an entry on the urban legend "the always garden"- a liminal space/backrooms style restaurant anomaly
alex hirsch: links to a google search for flannels
toby determined: links to a google search for restraining order
dorito/chip: a dorito slowly enlarges on the computer screen and then becomes a jumpscare of a toothy bill, who periodically screams for a bit before the video finishes
love: pulls up the romance novel, clicking starts an audio recording of the book
death: text appears onscreen: "life's goth cousin"
book of bill: text appears onscreen: "hide it under shirt during pledge of allegiance"
life: text appears onscreen: "life: 72% complete. now loading: death"
baby: an ultrasound of a baby bill in a womb and a message congratulating you
pines: text appears onscreen: "a good family tree"
weird: a video of weird al yankovich appears on the screen, he's confused and shouts for bill to get him out of there
waddles: links to a pig adoption website
mickey/disney: text appears onscreen: "rat.gif censored for your protection"
ducktective: text appears onscreen reading "ducktective stars in 'love, quacktually', coming to 'oi, it's the cockney channel innit?' this fall"
mason: a note from dipper about ford teaching him anagrams, plus a coded message with that technique
tyrone/clone: a picture of the janky dipper clone with a message that he's yours now
matpat/game theory: a video of matpat and a conspiracy board, he turns to say "hello internet, you're on... you're own... good luck" as he holds the book of bill
skeleton: text appears onscreen: "the one with the sword! he found you!"
scary: pulls up a parody goosebumps book "spookemups"
divorce: pulls up a logo for "o'sadley's'"
music: enables you to click the dial, clicking the dial plays loud static
math: bill recounting an encounter he had with plato
conspiracy: a video of charlie day in a tin foil hat rambling about the website's previous state, holding the book of bill
okay that's all i could find for now, at least until the codes get decoded, they might be relevant too
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Sorry fellas. Heβs married! To SCIENCE!
The one who wages
(war)
Shamura gets the oldest sib lore and cannon event too *sobs*
Okay I have this theory where The Goat is Lamb but in another parallel universe, where instead of Narinder being the one who waits, it is Shamura the god of death. What do you guys think about that?
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Alex hirsch dropping the book of bill to the public:
Me:
ALEX HIRSCH!!!!
DROP SCALENE AND EUCLID CONTENT
AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
Agent 1 and 2 was done so dirty and wrong.Including the cherubs.
They were competent antagonists to now dumb and annoying waste of characters in the show.
I know the Cherubs were annoying even in their first appearance but man.The concept of angels being fallen by an accident,self defense and stuck in a moral dilemma(damn if you do,damn if you don't situation where the IMP keeps pestering them when they only want to help)is so intriguing (them killing the old man in accident out of self defense from the IMP).Their potential is wasted to make heaven appear bad or dumb in hell(full moon).
The DHORKS could be interesting.I am excited for characters especially humans that can beef up with the supernatural.but instead it was a "secret" organization funded by something? Then when they show proof of demons, the government and church?(With the priests soldiers arming the gun in that scene).the way they show their operations seems like another lesser evil.As the Agents react nothing to the girls being killed in the hell's portal as a joke.
They became annoying instead of actual antagonists to the IMP .The way they are so defeated easily and their loss as a joke for slapstick humor is making their plot in their episodes useless.If anything they are not really an obstacle as IMP even mocks their easy defeat.just another plot device.
Don't forget how their team up sounds cool but disappointing.It could be their revenge or rather avenging themselves as the IMP did them wrong multiple times.But instead we get Cletus and Keenie acting blood thirsty angels while there is one genuine guy known as Collin being too innocent.Cletus and Kleenie reaction is justified tbh but the episode made them seems like another character being racist to hellborns litterally fighting them to death.Blitz insult them on his apology tour makes blitz apology a bit insincere.because again they are easily defeated.not even a temporary win like with striker so what is the point of them taking up screen time?what is the point of the agents being dramatic about demon hunting and the existence of DHORKS when humans are so dumb and let demons roam.What is the point of the CHERUBS existing to sabotage IMP when many times,IMP sabotage itself?.I feel like they are just here so we can laugh at them like how blitz makes fun of them in apology tour.
Cool detail I found.Both CHERUBS and DHORKS kill the IMP's client in accident.sounds like a doomed narrative.as if god is intervening their closeness to success into failure.tbf they are doomed as an antagonist already.even IMPs beefing themselves has more thematic conflict than these two.
Yo chat.what if the reason bill sees himself as a god.
Is it because he is the son of one?
I have a head canon that Euclid is the Godfather of their dimension Euclydia.Euclid is their god and Bill is the next heir.Scalene would also be like their axioms.Known to be the embodiment of one of Euclydia's kind.A kind of triangle like a ruler of a species.Axioms are Geometry version of angels as they obey the rule of geometry like Scalene.
Which explains Bill Cipher's Mutation and abilities.Being an heir of a literal father of geometry and mother of a geometric kind would cause something out of bounds to happen.Not to mention,Bill Cipher thinks he is "liberating" everyone.He has the souls of the euclideans inside his consciousness.He want to give them a gift and knowledge so badly but it only condemns them.He wanted power to make his fellow people go "up" with him.He wants to show them that is not comprehensible.He can hear and read the euclidean's souls in his mind like an omniscient god.
In my Au,Bill has this strange eye because his birth is like an evolution of math itself.Modern Math has what is called Euclidean N-spaces.Which bare multi-dimensional geometry.Bill is destined to see other dimension before he was born.Scalene will think it is a miracle but for Euclid,It was something he must let go.He knows his son will see the stars,he knows his son will be like him too.A mentor and a god.But he could only show bill something abstract,something that can't see but bill wanted to and even feel it.He knew his son will do something inevitable but he and scalene love and devote bill cipher akin of a god.
Bill could be the God of geometry in gravity falls as he manipulates space and time as some sort of dimension he could change it to anything.And him making his home into an atom is his topological powers of transforming a flat plane into a tiny sphere.If only Euclid taught him before he was gone.Also Modern Math break old rules all the time.So I imagine Bill to argue with Euclid a lot but feel so guilty to the point he never mention him in the book directly like his mom.He did mention his dad in the book,being so handsome with his hat.So Bill could love his mom in more direct ways while to his dad more subtle.
Animation WIP that took me like 10 fucking hours and still sucks π but!!!! Bill backstory!!! And this song!!! I HAVE BIG PLANS AND IDEAS but no skill no time no maidens
OMG!!!I am so excited for this!
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I would apologize for it taking a year to make but at this point I'm just glad it might be finished during my lifetime.