Thank you so much for the post about why you defend trans men. I literally JUST got another death threat, and seeing that immediately after kept me sane. Thank you so much
I am so sorry you're getting death threats, it blows my mind that people think that it's ok to treat y'all like this.
Please take care of yourself first and foremost, and don't be afraid to take a step back from discourse if you need to.
no one is gonna convince me that anti-transmasculinity isn't a unique form of oppression worthy of a name. it describes a unique position under the patriarchy of being masculine with highly regulated reproductive organs. that means we're the only class of people who can be forced to detransition AND give birth. the fash can force cis women to give birth, they can force other trans people to detransition, but only transmascs can be forced into both.
anyone who comes in here to minimize my greatest fears gets blocked.
trans guys: hey! this awful violating thing can and has happened to us and we need to be more aware of it as things get worse for trans ppl everywhere
the stupidest people alive: but have you considered it makes me personally feel bad when you talk about it? and actually youre a bigot for even bringing it up in the first place because what about the people that cant have that happen to them but have other similar things happen? honestly i think you just hate trans women and cant stand when things arent about you
Lying about who invented forcefem and forcemasc being a copy of it is one of the weirder manifestations of the weird aggressive radfem claim to everything under the sun but far from the only one.
Trying to trademark "eggs" for transfems is a fundamental refusal by radfems to see anyone else as trans. Even assuming it's true that it started specifically with trans women and it was ever exclusive for more than five seconds after it's creation, which would like to see some evidence for but am not holding out much hope considering it definitely fucking wasn't, it's completely absurd to act like the basic concept of a name for a concept like that should be exclusive to begin with. The only justification for it is that you don't think other trans people have any kinna journey like that to go through in the first place. What the hell else are they supposed to call it? Literally, what combination of words other than "egg" is a good metaphor for that situation?
And the answer to this conundrum is just that they don't want other trans people to have a word period. Radfems don't think other trans people are trans. Radfems do not believe it's possible to want to be a man or the desire to be a man to have any inherent worth, because dysphoria has fully taken control of their every waking thought and can only conceptualize trans people AFAB as bitches who are making fun of them by pretending to want to be something they desperately want to escape from and project their fear they're not a Trve Wymyn on to everyone else so they can reinforce their own shaky faith in their gender identity. You wouldn't see radfems saying things like "those AFAB cunts are evil for saying all the time that binary trans women have boring genders [fabrication] but actually we know more than anyone about gender because of transmisogyny" if they were not dealing with a psychological wound that's bleeding all over every post they make.
And, of course, radfems count any trans person AMAB as "TMA," which is essentially a way of labeling them Trans Women With Extra Steps. Have you seen a non-binary tee-em-ay that did not also identify as woman? Because I sure haven't! They surely exist, somewhere, but every one I've seen is also fem, and there's nothing wrong with that nor does it make them less non-binary, but it's very telling about TMA/TME culture and it's views on transfemininity, and what trans people AMAB who aren't also fem tend to think of that whole framework.
Isn't it such a strange coincidence that most of it tends to be super broad concepts that are in no way exclusive, in terms of material reality, to trans women, like "person who doesn't know they're trans yet"? If they ever were transfem exclusive, you'd get the idea that they were designed purely to bait people into picking it up just to yell at them for it, but what's actually happening is going after abso-fucking-lutely everything to tear people's language away as a power trip and feel like the most special queers to ever live.
But let's look at something less essential than terminology. Let's take the shark plushie. That, for one thing, has just provably never been transfem specific. Ever. Not once time in history, any claim otherwise is a deliberate lie. But even if it WERE, why? Why do you NEED it to be transfem specific? What about the shark plushie makes it transfem culture? What does that even MEAN? How do you signal a shark plushie is transfem culture? What exactly is happening when you see a trans man saying he put top surgery scars on his shark plushie? Can you explain to me why that's like watching your partner cheating on you? Besides that, do you understand this is a toy for toddlers that was never deliberately aimed at anyone queer? I genuinely so badly want to ask these extremely stupid people if in twenty years they'll scream at the hundreds of thousands of cis people who had one when they were four and were fond of it.
Like, it's wild, right? Because radfems will say on a regular basis "oh, they took the shark plushie, they took catgirls, they took forcefem, they took uhhhh flips to a random page of a book on a compilation of queer shitposts pumpkin fucking." And then, in their next breath, they'll go on about how transmascs make nothing but inferior degenerate art of no value.
They know we, trans women, have culture besides that shit, right? Drawn art? Film? Video games? Literature, too, even though every transfem book I've heard of sounds terrible, since I know that's only because I haven't ever looked for more. Like, I know good transfem books are OUT THERE if only people would discuss the ones that aren't about testosterone turning you into a feral monster or being gifted Trve Biological Wymynhood by the gods, as though that doesn't display some sickeningly bioessentialist transmed trends among the radfems on this website.
There is so much good transfem culture people could be uplifting instead! But instead they go with transradfem culture, which, let's be clear, is not representative of trans women or our actual, authentic cultural output, and is mostly bought off the shelf at Walmart.
Like, oh, wow, if trans radblr is supposed to be transfem culture then I guess transfem culture is a bunch of fucking shallow memes, kinks, and literal baby toys. Great cultural output, girls! Great going! Truly the ZENITH of human civilization! They'll put down transmasc music every other day but I'm pretty sure just about anyone with a pulse could fuck around with a middle school recorder for a few minutes that has more artistic value than the transradfem culture that radfems act like hyper-defensive weirdos about.
Which includes a bunch of slurs for others, which is funny, because on one hand you're like, hey, this word originated on 4chan, and they're like "no, trans women invented it," and you're like, yeah, those aren't mutually exclusive ideas, maybe rethink that line of defense Birdgirl because you're going to get your client in even worse trouble here. Maybe instead say that yes, it was invented by transphobes for transphobes, but you're choosing to appropriate this 4chan slur anyway because you're jealous some non-binary people were invited to a concert you wouldn't have gone to anyway. That'd be at least a little more honest than inventing this false history where it was created specifically because of the pain and trauma of some non-binary people being invited to a concert you wouldn't have gone to anyway. Or at least that I hope you wouldn't have gone to even if you had been extended an invite.
Like, instead of celebrating real transfem culture that does actually exist, radfems incapable of creating their own stuff just want to grab everything in sight and plant a transradfem flag on it, which makes the definition of transfemininity and transfem culture they want to push all the more grotesquely empty.
If you go out of your way to harass and argue with trans women, you deny them their right to discuss their oppression, and you only ever see the worst in them, you being
Transphobic!
Now, if you go out of your way to harass and argue with trans men, you deny them their right to discuss their oppression, and you only ever see the worst in them, you are still being
Transphobic!
And of course, if you go out of your way to harass and argue with nonbinary people, you deny them their right to discuss their oppression, and you only ever see the worst in them, you are (yet again) being
Transphobic!
No, it doesn't matter if you're a trans woman, a trans man, or nonbinary yourself! You're still being a bigot. Unlearn your internalized transphobia and play nice with the other queers. The fascists hate all of us, stop doing their work for them.
If your argument only appears to work by erasing an individual's marginalized or majority identity, you fail to comprehend intersectionality. Intersections exist in privilege as well, not just marginalizations
saying ‘trans men aren’t oppressed for being black because black men aren’t oppressed for being men’ is definitely a choice because if you for once in your life tried to crawl out of your stupid echo chamber to learn anything about any of the groups your referencing you’d know that black men are oppressed for being BLACK MEN. do people cross the streets when they see black women at night? do people automatically assume all black women are part of a gang? do black women suffer false rape accusations at the same rate as black men? do people come up to black women talking about how they’re huge fans of bbc? no. because black men suffer an oppression that is exclusive to their sex just as it is to their race. but of course you think black men aren’t oppressed for being men so that’s why you can say the same stupid shit about trans men
Y’all, just stop using Shinigami Eyes. TERFs are green, intersex people are red, trans people are red, it’s just not working anymore. I literally had someone bust into my inbox telling me someone was a terf based solely on the fact that her name was red when it turns out she was a staunch anti-radfem and trans herself.
alert alert a trans man expressed enjoyment in being a man for a moment and didn’t feel sorry about it y’all gotta do something about it how dare he say “men are cool” without stating he knows oppression and patriarchy exists and he’s sorry before that
being a trans man is fucked because people who hate women still hate us for being women but also people who hate men hate us for being men
and the second group says they're actually being good and supporting us and affirming us by hating us, and then everyone agrees, including a whole bunch of other trans people, even including trans men. somehow
Nix, They/Them, Queer, 20s Sporadically active.Do not gender me.
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