Not Gonna Lie, Ozpin's Advice Did Contribute To The Way Ruby Understands Leadership's, And It Is Visible

Not gonna lie, Ozpin's advice did contribute to the way Ruby understands leadership's, and it is visible that his way of leading has rubbed off on Ruby quite a bit (I had a whole post on that a while ago)

BUT

The problem is people being allergic to nuance. You can be partially responsible for something, without meaning to, without being a bad person, without bashing a character.

Did Ozpin's advice lead to this situation in some ways ? Yes.

Was it meant to ? No.

Was it malicious advice ? No. In the context it was given, it was very good advice.

Was it hypocritical ? No. Ozpin acted exactly as he adviced Ruby to.

See the fun fact about giving advice, especially when you are a traumatized teacher, is that even when you mean well, even if you only wish to help, your own experience (or trauma) will "color" and impact the advice you give, and possibly make it flawed in some aspect. Does that make you an inherently bad person & teacher ?

No it makes you human, it makes for understandable & compelling character arcs, it gives us parallels. People just need to exerce some nuance really.

This is basically the same problem I have in the MHA fandom, where people who criticize All Might's teaching need to paint him as an inherently bad teacher & person. But actually, All Might has never given any consciously malicious advice to Izuku. He neve asked or expected for Izuku to do anything that he hasn't done himself and to himself. Self-sacrificial tendencies ? All Might has them in spades himself, and was never really given the room to acknowledge how bad they are. And yet he STILL hopes for Izuku to be safe (safer than him at least) and urges him to take care of himself and not act recklessly.

Being human, having trauma, offering advice based on your own experience can lead to flawed advice. That is interesting and compelling. It makes sense, and it leads to wonderful parallels and development. That doesn't make a character bad, nor does it mean that their entire advice & teaching was always terrible and that they should be burned at the stake.

To the person who made the “all of Ruby’s problems are Ozpin’s fault!” Post. Disrespectfully, and I mean this in the most rancid way possible, fuck off.

Ozpin is doing his best and is literally traumatized by the events and years leading up to where we’re at, the advice he gave to her in volume 1-2 about being a leader was genuine advice, how the fuck was he supposed to know it would’ve led to this, he didn’t do it maliciously stop acting like he did. He gave RWBY and JNPR an out from the war SEVERAL TIMES and they CHOSE not to. So don’t go saying that he manipulated them into the war or some other bullshit.

He kept all those secrets EXACTLY because of RWBY and CO’s reaction, he knew they were going to be mad which is why he didn’t want them involved in the first place.

God you people are fucking insufferable.

When you hate a character you people will find every reason you can possibly pull out of your ass to shit on them, which is wildly unhealthy tbh.

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3 years ago

OK ALRIGHT HERE WE GO :D

THE MOST BIZARRE RWBY KIN YOU WILL EVER GET:

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Except it's really bizarre and you're gonna get some weird fucking kins from this one (this is gonn be so inaccurate wahey!!)

Reblog with who you got in the tags >D


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3 years ago

Winter : Truth or dare ?

Ironwood : Truth

Winter : How many hours have you slept this week ?

Ironwood :

Ironwood : Dare

Winter : Go to sleep.

Ironwood : I don't like this game.


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3 years ago

Reaching Out - Part 2 : Amity & Alador

Reaching Out - Part 2 : Amity & Alador

Next in my Reaching Out breakdown : this time we learn more about Amity, her hopes for the future, her relationship with Alador, and her brother Edric (for part 3) !

Point n°2 : So what's up with Alador ? Unhealthy family relationships are very complicated, and though in some situations entirely dropping your family members to find yourself people that actually care about you is the best and RIGHT solution... In many cases the situation won't be as easy. Because kids care about their parents, or one of them, or like the idea of a family too much to give it up, or simply because sometimes parents fuck up without really meaning to, or fuck up because they got too busy but weren't actively trying to be malicious, and they can want & try to do better if you confront them about it. It's up to each individual's, and no one ever HAS to forgive anyone; but these things are often full of nuance and different for each individual. I think TOH in this episode striked a great balance on this subject.

-> This episode shows that if Amity has genuine struggles & problems with Odalia and her controlling nature, she has some curiosity and respect for her father. She wants to know him better, she wants to relate, she loves Abominations just like him, she knows he's not just this monolith of an inventor because he was a kid like her who did combat competitions and who (possibly ?) was the better parent before getting too busy with his company : based on anymore in Amity's "You don't listen to us anymore !". She wants to see if there is hope for a relationship here, or for mending one, and I think this ambiguity & messiness is very realistic & (hopefully) relatable to many kids out there.

Reaching Out - Part 2 : Amity & Alador
Reaching Out - Part 2 : Amity & Alador

-> At the same time, Alador clearly is neglectful. Not as bad as Odalia, but he did do wrong by his kids & hurt them by simply standing by and not taking the time to be with them and get to know them as people. Amity isn't interested in suddenly forgetting everything and hugging it out as many kids wouldn't in her situation. Hope & boundaries overlap in a very mature resolution, through Amity refusing her father's hug in favor of a handshake and reminding him that this is good... but only a start. (This can also parallel Amity & Willow "reconciliation" since we have hints here & there that Willow isn't completely over it either.) I hope we will see the effects of this episode on their relationship in the future, and that Alador will try to be better, for Amity's sake, and since it does seem that he loves his kids to some extent... but is shitty at parenting.

Reaching Out - Part 2 : Amity & Alador
Reaching Out - Part 2 : Amity & Alador
Reaching Out - Part 2 : Amity & Alador
Reaching Out - Part 2 : Amity & Alador
Reaching Out - Part 2 : Amity & Alador
Reaching Out - Part 2 : Amity & Alador

In conclusion : a good story line to tackle Amity's relationship with her other parent. We know what to expect from Odalia with what we've seen; but seeing as Alador likes to keep to the background there were some loose ends to focus on & screw tighter. Now we have a better idea of where their relationship is at; and I'm sure we will get hints in the upcoming episodes if Alador does end up working on himself as a parent !

Reaching Out - Part 2 : Amity & Alador

Next part to wrap up this episode by tackling together all the loose ends & subplots !


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4 years ago

Well Ozpin did die at 40-something so this is still relevant to the conversation

Fun fact kids: don't post Oscar memes at 3 am because your brain will be too delirious to decipher whether it's Oscar or Ozpin in the screenshot.


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4 years ago
I Made Some Renders For The Sake Of My Memes So I'm Posting Them Here In Case Anyone Else Can Make Use
I Made Some Renders For The Sake Of My Memes So I'm Posting Them Here In Case Anyone Else Can Make Use
I Made Some Renders For The Sake Of My Memes So I'm Posting Them Here In Case Anyone Else Can Make Use
I Made Some Renders For The Sake Of My Memes So I'm Posting Them Here In Case Anyone Else Can Make Use
I Made Some Renders For The Sake Of My Memes So I'm Posting Them Here In Case Anyone Else Can Make Use

I made some renders for the sake of my memes so I'm posting them here in case anyone else can make use of it :D


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3 years ago

Though the jokes that "since gay pride month is over, july is now gay wrath month" are funny and all, it's important to remember that July is ACTUALLY Disability Pride Month and y'all should really be focused on boosting disabled voices and issues this month! For instance, the fact that marriage equality doesn't actually truly exist in the United States for disabled people, or the fact that disabled people are forced to live in poverty or lose their disability benefits, or the fact that 1 in 5 people with chronic pain end up sufferring from alcoholism or other addictions, or how accessibility is still a daily battle for all of us, or how there are active hate groups on places like reddit who try to "call out" those they see as "faking" their disabilities.

This July, boost disabled voices. Talk about the issues that our community faces. Call out ableism.

3 years ago

Oscar in cloqwork? Not in relation to the ship [that would be weird as HELL] i just think he’d look cool with the colors. WAIT HAVE U DONE THIS BEFORE

Oscar In Cloqwork? Not In Relation To The Ship [that Would Be Weird As HELL] I Just Think He’d Look

Nope, I haven’t done this one before


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2 years ago
Something About Mentors Learning From Their Students Just As Much As They Teach Them.
Something About Mentors Learning From Their Students Just As Much As They Teach Them.

Something about mentors learning from their students just as much as they teach them.

(pls reblog if you can? I put so much work into these lol)


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4 years ago

Salem: I'm going to change the world.

Ozma: For the better?

Salem:

Ozma: Answer me.

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