PLS HELP ME WHAJT IS THIS TOMFUCKERY??????????? HELP ME PLS PLS PLSSS HELP TOIPAD EXPERT 😭
Oh, boy, this'll be a long one.
Minuet isn't here to answer himself, but LMAOOOOO?????? Personally I wouldn't say anything Bug (@bugdatabase) hasn't said in this post.
https://www.tumblr.com/bugdatabase/740813373718118400/not-an-anon-calling-toipad-proship-as-an
But! If you want to go even further with the evidence: In this post, Justin himself says that “[He] always felt that PayJay (a ship with a character he voices) is a pretty cool ship).”
Besides, we (Minuet and I) both find it ridiculous to tell someone who is, under the transmitter's point of view, “uninformed” (someone who, under the point of view of someone who thinks it's a proship, likely doesn't know) to “get their senses together”. That's just plain rude. Even if it was a proship, there is a clear lack of tact in this ask, and articulating it differently could have made a different, likely more positive impact. Going “hey, this ship is problematic jsyk” is less aggressive, and in the case that the person /is/ in fact uninformed, can be taken more lightly and solved more amicably.
(But of course, Tumblr is not always amicable, is it?)
In the second post attached, Justin also says that we as a community should value our own sense of interpretation as long as it doesn't go completely against the canon of the show. Which it doesn't, because Toilet and MePad literally make up in canon! And they are shown to be friends after T&B! Even after MYOB, you've got to accept that if they aren't in good terms, MePad did everything he could to convince MePhone to let Toilet stay. Toilet is very compassionate, and even if they’re stuck in a strange desencuentro, he would definitely know this.
Yes, MePad not helping him definitely would leave a mark in their relationship, but that doesn't make the ship abusive or toxic in any way. They were stuck in the middle of a chain of unhealed generational trauma, but none of them are abusive. It's all a petty one-sided conflict for MePhone4’s attention. Toilet doesn't know how to react to being thrown aside, so he develops a strange unrequited rivalry towards MePad. The thing is though! They make up! They communicate their feelings to one another!
Is Toilet hateable under popular perspective? Probably. He's clumsy, loud, not very bright and made for you to either hate him or laugh at him. But that doesn't mean that he isn't a character worth analyzing. He deserves love, which he never receives, even after 14 episodes of dealing with what he deals with. I know it's silly to sympathize with a fictional toilet, but he really does deserve more development and closure for his arc, and as Minuet has expressed in the past, MePad (character) has what it takes to break the cycle and provide him with the affection that he needs. (We're guiding ourselves based off our own analyses of II S2 and canon itself, btw. Not any theories.)
Conclusion: Leave ToiPad and its shippers alone. It is not a problematic ship. Neither of them are abusive, Justin is not uncomfortable with ships of the characters they voice, and it is most definitely Not inc*stuous and/or p*dophilic.
- Nonne (🔪)
Spoilers below
You guys know what's interesting? The fact that assuming Toilet was in charge of MePhoneX the whole time. A lot of the deaths happened because he was trying to better himself. He wanted MePhone 4's approval, wanted to be the best assistant he could be for him, and with a way to be able to do so, he would practically be willing to do whatever he could. If he succeeded, he would finally be able to get the approval he craved and desired so much that he never got. Besides, the three who he was speaking to claimed to be real, so they were clearly trying to help him! There's no way everything would turn out to be fake, there would be no way. Or. That's how I see it.
Also this episode had me nearly sobbing
EDIT: It's also ironic, too. Toilet's desire to be the perfect assistant for MePhone 4 is what caused him so much harm.
neon signs / wine stains
> OH YOU LIKE FLOORPAD? would you like for me to hand you my poly co-hosts analysis?
Mephone didn't remember how it happened, he just remembered hearing his own scream, and then Mepad crying out.
He opened his eyes, but saw nothing. Was he not opening his eyes?? He reached to his face, and gasped, flinching as his hand had traced what he felt to be a-
No, he couldn't be-
But he was. He gently traced the cracks that ran over his eyes, his a line that was slightly wobbly until it got over his left eye on which it diverged into two paths.
Mephone begged whatever was out there that it wasn't permanent. 'Who am I kidding?' The device thought. 'I should know better than to hope and lead myself on like that. I just need to stay calm, find Mepad and-'
'The contestants.'
How would the contestants react? Would they worry? Would they make fun of him? Try to use this to their advantage? Would they ask what happened? He'd be able to stop Mepad from asking questions, but some of the contestants might still be curious. He couldn't let them see him like this.
How would he hide it from them if he couldn't even see where they were? Didn't matter, as long as he could buy himself enough time to make a solution ('Still clinging onto hope? Really?')
For now, he had to stay calm. Which he could do..yeah, he could do this, and everything would be fine.
+SNAP+
'NOPE NO THANK YOU GOODBYE NOT DOING THIS TODAY' the phone thought as he ran, tripping over himself multiple times. Desperately he called out ''MEPAD?!? MEPAD?!?''
But nobody heard him. He was alone, he couldn't see, every noise felt threatening, and he couldn't see and he didn't even know WHY-
The blinded object tripped on something, sending him toppling over, getting smacked against the ground.
He couldn't take it anymore, he learned that he couldn't even form actual tears anymore.
he was a blinded phone who was crying because he tripped over what had felt like a rock. He felt pathetic.
"Sir?!?"
He felt something- Someone, Mepad, who else calls him sir and sounds like that?- Kneel beside him. He didn't bother to look up, it no longer mattered where he looked, he would no longer be able to see anything, his show, cookies, his contestants, Mepad- He had lost everything because of a crack he didn't even remember the origin of.
"Sir, what happened!?!" Mephone finally 'looked' up, sitting on his knees. He heard a gasp from Mepad, and felt around in that direction. Finding Mepad, he dragged them into a hug.
Mephone started speaking"I- I can't - I can't see - I woke up and I couldn't see anything, Why did this-" he couldn't finish the sentence as his voice caught, and he continued to cry with no tears while embracing Mepad, and could feel the ground change beneath them from branches leaves and rocks to short grass.
He knew where they were without having to see it. Desperately he looked around at nothing, hoping to gain Mepad's attention with eye contact.
"please, wait- you can't let the contestants see, alright? Who knows how they'll react"
"But sir-"
"Please."
" ...alright sir, I won't tell them. "
"MEPHONE!!!"
It was his contestants calling, Mepad stood up, forcing Mephone4 up as well, Mepad pushed Mephone A bit, and seemingly stood in front of him from what the phone could tell.
It was time to convince the contestants everything was fine. He held into Mepad's side like a shy child hiding from their parent's friends, and he felt incredibly stupid for it, but he couldn't bring himself to let go and possibly lose Mepad, he just couldn't. So he held in and waited for the contestants voices to get closer.
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End of part 1, hope you all liked it, Mephone always forgetting Toilet though poor thing. Anyways I already know what'll go down next time, so it'll come out soon most likely but right now I'm feeling kind of sick and am seriously hoping that doesn't effect my writing in any way. See you next time hopefully, hope it wasn't too disappointing, might rewrite later in the right mind.
Xolbor.
kinda random thought, but people don’t give mepad enough credit. he’s a smart guy, and while at least initially he was not very emotionally intelligent, his time on ii and being around the contestants has allowed him to learn things on this front
he stands up for toilet because he can see how much mephone’s dejections hurt him. and despite his code of honesty, he lied to mephone about the whereabouts of marshmallow, because he knew that leaving the show is something that marshmallow needed
and now he’s applying these lessons to taco. he recognizes that something is wrong with her, that she needs help but can’t bring herself to seek it, and he wants to be there to help her
he wasn’t getting manipulated there. all throughout the second half of the song we see him refuting the horrible things taco wants him to believe about herself (and she’s not garnering for sympathy points, she earnestly believes the things she says about herself there are true, and that he should despise her as much as she despises herself, but that’s for another post)
he genuinely held all of the power in that situation; he said it himself (well, implied, but still) that taco never actually disabled his ability to teleport on his own, that he could have just ditched her if he so desired. but he didn’t, because he can see that she’s troubled, and he wants to help in whatever way he can
give the guy some credit, won’t ya. he ain’t stupid
has this been done before
YOU GUYS ARE SO RIGHT ABOUT THIS 💔💔💔💔💔
GUYS I KNOW WE ARE ALL FLIPPING OUT OVER LIGHTBRUSH AND BOT!!! I AM TOO!!!! BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CALLBACKS TO THE OG COHOSTS. HM.
Mepad helped Mephone with the logistical stuff, which you can NEARLY hear Mephone say. That wasn't Mephones job in the past.
dont even get me STARTED on floory being a direct. refrence. toilet. the baby. I MISS HIM SO BAD!!!!!!!!!!! THEY TALKED ABOUT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I MISS MEPAD AND TOILET PLEASEEE
ah, i wish i could become your shadow
AGH INANIMATE INSANITY 15 WAS JUST GVCERV I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO TACO'S TIRADE ON LOOP
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